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  1. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    right... cause CJ would have signed with buffalo to be a situational 3rd back. and the howard became avaliable around a month after we already signed gore.

    either way, you are freaking out about nothing. i dont really give a F who the 3rd RB in the depth chart is, but i can say with confidence that Gore is the most talented 3rd RB we have had in my time as a Bills fan.

    As long as the plan is to draft a RB (even in the later rounds) within this draft or the 2020 draft... it was a good signing imo.
    CJ signed in LA to be behind Gurley, So yes, for the money, he would have came here to ride it out with 40-year old McCoy.

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    CBS, bleacher report and a couple other sports outlets are saying Ziggy will be signing with the Bills today. All free agent deals signed today will be after 4pm, which is when teams wont get compensation draft picks taken away.
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    Well scratch him off the list. Seattle bought him. His shoulder may have been a problem Bean didn't want to worry about. Its already being reported he will miss training camp and the first month of the season. Then take into account the likelihood of his injury coming back when putting on a hit and we may be better off.

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    One year deal and he'll be missing all of training camp and the first month. Not a major loss.

    I wonder if Clowney is in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smood999 View Post
    One year deal and he'll be missing all of training camp and the first month. Not a major loss.

    I wonder if Clowney is in play.
    Yeah I don't feel like he was the missing piece. If we can't win without him, then we couldn't win with him imo.

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    A Healthy Ziggy would have helped us, but we need someone who will be playing, from start to finish and gelling with their teammates right from the start. Seattle can take a chance, because they are banking on getting into the playoffs. So by the time he comes back, gets into game shape and shakes the rust off, he will be in pro form down the stretch and into the playoffs.

    I saw rumors of Clowney and a pick for Lawson a long time ago, so those rumors are coming back now.

    Im surprised Suh hasn't been picked up yet. If Indy doesn't pick him up, his price will drop. I wouldn't mind Buffalo getting him, despite his character, because lets face it, it is just a matter of time before we see him in a New England Patriots uniform as his contract demands get smaller and smaller. Plus, he wont be single covered in Buffalo. He will draw plenty of attention to his side, freeing up Oliver and the rest. Its a numbers game. We already know Star requires two men. Put Suh in there and 2 guys will be on him. We will then start to see teams using their best blocking RB's and TE's coming in on plays, trying to protect the coverage. All of this helps defenses read the offensive plays easier. Last year for the Bills, The Bills ran the ball, something like a ridiculous 95% of the time, whenever Andre Holmes was in the game. Defenses knew what we were doing because of our personal and if we get one more threat to help relieve the attention Oliver will have, we will start seeing formations that our indicative as well.

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    Bills sign TE Lee Smith and cut the T/TE Fischer.

    The contract is surprising, 3-years 9 million, for just a blocking TE. A lot of that is guaranteed if he goes into 2nd season, which I doubt, with the free agent TE crop next year available in free agency.

    Free agent RB Christian Wade, from the Rugby league, has been untouchable so far. They said At rookie camp, he gets the ball and out runs everyone to the sidelines and dashes for 20/30/40 yards a pop. Even though its light defensive work, the defenses know the plays and he still out runs them all up the sidelines. Perhaps we finally found the diamond in the rough McDermott has been looking for.

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    the TE contract is weird. Theyre putting a huge emphasis on the blocking this season. Love the theory, don't understand the glut of TE's.

    I want wade returning kicks. Is that even possible this year? Poor coverage if they aren't covering that outside edge though.

    I'm really excited for this season. Every game will be interesting.

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    The tight end situation approach is odd this year, but I think they have their eye on next years free agency. Kroft is the TE weapon that will always catch the TD pass in the endzone. Between the 20's, he is a health risk. Croom and the rookie, will probably be the guys to play between the 20's to use. 9 million for Smith seems very expensive for a guy who isn't that good, just to come in as an extra blocker on 3rd and shorts.

    Usually, you'll see the blocking TE, being an important need, with the line we had last season. I am surprised with all the additions, then the highly noted blocking RB's we bring in, were now offering up a spot on the team for a 4th TE to block.

    As for Wade returning kicks, it is possible. He is just suppose to be a world sport promotional thingy they are doing. The good thing is, he wont count against our numbers til final cut day. So we will get to see him play all throughout the pre season. If he looks good, he will make the RB decisions pretty tough, which could be why we are hearing a lot of McCoy being traded talks. McCoy/Yeldon/Singletery are locks. Leaves us with Perry/Gore/Murphy and Wade left, with the Bills likely only going 4, unless the eliminate the FB spot and go 5. Wade making the team and being the surprise of the league, will put a few people out of jobs. From what they are saying during workouts, his speed is better than what they expected. Defenses know its going to be a run left/right and they still cant catch him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabres11 View Post
    The tight end situation approach is odd this year, but I think they have their eye on next years free agency. Kroft is the TE weapon that will always catch the TD pass in the endzone. Between the 20's, he is a health risk. Croom and the rookie, will probably be the guys to play between the 20's to use. 9 million for Smith seems very expensive for a guy who isn't that good, just to come in as an extra blocker on 3rd and shorts.

    Usually, you'll see the blocking TE, being an important need, with the line we had last season. I am surprised with all the additions, then the highly noted blocking RB's we bring in, were now offering up a spot on the team for a 4th TE to block.

    As for Wade returning kicks, it is possible. He is just suppose to be a world sport promotional thingy they are doing. The good thing is, he wont count against our numbers til final cut day. So we will get to see him play all throughout the pre season. If he looks good, he will make the RB decisions pretty tough, which could be why we are hearing a lot of McCoy being traded talks. McCoy/Yeldon/Singletery are locks. Leaves us with Perry/Gore/Murphy and Wade left, with the Bills likely only going 4, unless the eliminate the FB spot and go 5. Wade making the team and being the surprise of the league, will put a few people out of jobs. From what they are saying during workouts, his speed is better than what they expected. Defenses know its going to be a run left/right and they still cant catch him.
    I don't think wade nessissarily makes them have to cut a RB. He definitely takes a roster spot if he earns it, but they could cut one of the tail end WR's that would only be returning kicks, or maybe even some of the depth at CB. Kick returners are penciled in on both sides of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabres11 View Post
    The tight end situation approach is odd this year, but I think they have their eye on next years free agency. Kroft is the TE weapon that will always catch the TD pass in the endzone. Between the 20's, he is a health risk. Croom and the rookie, will probably be the guys to play between the 20's to use. 9 million for Smith seems very expensive for a guy who isn't that good, just to come in as an extra blocker on 3rd and shorts.

    Usually, you'll see the blocking TE, being an important need, with the line we had last season. I am surprised with all the additions, then the highly noted blocking RB's we bring in, were now offering up a spot on the team for a 4th TE to block.

    As for Wade returning kicks, it is possible. He is just suppose to be a world sport promotional thingy they are doing. The good thing is, he wont count against our numbers til final cut day. So we will get to see him play all throughout the pre season. If he looks good, he will make the RB decisions pretty tough, which could be why we are hearing a lot of McCoy being traded talks. McCoy/Yeldon/Singletery are locks. Leaves us with Perry/Gore/Murphy and Wade left, with the Bills likely only going 4, unless the eliminate the FB spot and go 5. Wade making the team and being the surprise of the league, will put a few people out of jobs. From what they are saying during workouts, his speed is better than what they expected. Defenses know its going to be a run left/right and they still cant catch him.
    Not shocked about the TEs.

    Brian DaBoll comes from the Patriots, who were one of the first teams to emphasize the position as far as using multiple.

    McDermott and Beane have only known offenses with top TEs. They had Greg Olsen in Carolina. Also, McDermott's mentor, Andy Reid, revolves his offense around Travis Kelce and when he was with the Eagles, Brent Celek was a huge part of their offense.

    My guess is that they see more value in the TE position than they do WR. That's what the Patriots (DaBoll), the Panthers (Beane and McDermott), and Andy Reid (McDermott) have all done.

    My guess is that they'll probably continue to look for the right guy in the upcoming seasons. Kroft can be cut after this year and Knox is an unknown right now, although a lot of people seem to like him.

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    Even though those teams have had success with the TE, I hope the Bills don't think we can plug anyone back there and duplicate the success that Gronk/Olsen/Kelce gave.

    But they are heading in the right direction with Kroft. He is as good as those three, he just can never stay healthy. The rookie might be a stud to, time will tell. Smith is puzzling, but I think its safe to say, I bet a million he wont be here year 2 of that contract, that the majority of the money in the contract is focused on. Like I said next year, free agency at the position is plentiful. I think that all the TE's we have now, are auditioning this season, to back up the new guy we pick up next season.

    As for other roster spots, Capaccio said he was hearing the team only keeping the 6 WR's, because they do not want to lose some defensive players. So I think they love certain players on D that much, that this wont change. I would be shocked if Christian Wade made the team, but if he did, then they would have to eliminate the FB spot. And most likely, change the RB plan as well. Everyone thought Gore would be our 3rd down back, but not anymore with Yeldon on the team. So now with McCoy getting the bulk of the load and Yeldon coming in on 3rd, not much room for Gore anymore. Even goal line work is not available because Allen is gonna fake every handoff and run it in himself within the 5 yard line.

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    I never thought gore would be our 3rd down guy. That would seem illogical. McCoy is much more of a classic 3rd down RB.

    3rd and long maybe, when gore would be blocking only.

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    McCoy lost his 3-down back status his last year or two in Philly and he is seldom on the field for Buffalo on 3rd downs. Buffalo has struggled to pretty much get him a reliable back-up or have a 3rd down specialist that gets the job done. There was so many plays a few years ago, that after McCoy runs for 20-yards, Tolbert comes to relieve him and after no gain rushing, Bills were in a 3rd and long situation. We don't want 41-year old Gore, with only 1 rushing TD last season, to put the Bills in any type of hole this season on offense. For every time he gets the ball and has no gain, an opportunity for Singletary is squandered.

    So IMO, As long as McCoy is here, he will be our primary RB. Yeldon, who filled in nicely in Jax when Fournette went done the past two seasons, and who was always Jacksonville's 3rd down back when Fournette played, will have to assume the same roll in Buffalo, as his contract indicates. He is younger, known as a better catching RB than Gore and he's as good, if not better, at pass blocking than Gore. If there are no RB injuries, Gore plays 5 snaps a game.

    Bean and McDermott drafted Singletary to use him. He had a ridiculous 700 carries in college football but was only tackled about 300 times. He did what he was suppose to do in that division, he dominated with 66 TDs. If he was slightly above average, playing for that college, Bills wouldn't have picked him. I think Singletary will be played heavily this season and there just isn't enough snaps to keep everyone fed.
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    McCoy was just released in Tampa. He has always been a double digit sack guy. When he doesn't get the sack, he is the guy always creating a push on the line, making the QB run out of the pocket. The player this team has lacked for several years now, is now a free agent. This is the guy Bean needs to try to get.

    Bills resigned Hughes for 2-years. Personally, I would have loved to see him play this season in a contract year. The fact is, players are motivated by money. Now, Hughes already got his. It would have been better to see him play every single snap like it is his last, on an audition for a new contract next season.

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