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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    Is it a situation where they really like his stuff and think it will play up? Idk much about him.
    Read a Q&A after MLB posted the Braves top prospects and Jonathan Mayo said scouts love his stuff. Read his fastball touches 100. BA listed him as a breakout candidate.


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    Pache another homer today. DOB tweeted he thinks good chance Pache has one of the OF spots opening day 2020. Seems a little wishful considering he has only 29 games above A ball but with some continued improvements I wouldn’t be surprised to see him reach AAA this year.


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    O’Day and Minter still dealing with soreness but expected to be ready for opening day. Almost no chance Folty will ready for opening day.


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    My boi Pache is looking awfully good in ST!

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    2 more hits for Pache! Teheran was good, Allard not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    2 more hits for Pache! Teheran was good, Allard not so much.
    Teheran fastball is in the low 90s topping 93 which is better than last year, his slider from what I've heard looks filthy, he also said that he changed his routine this offseason.

    I have a hard time calling Allard a prospect anymore, everytime I see him I'm just confused on how he managed a 2.72 ERA in AAA as a 20 year old. He doesn't have a fastball good enough and his secondary pitches aren't anything special, I've even seen him multiple times pitch 2-3 complete innings without inducing a swing and miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beldugo View Post
    Teheran fastball is in the low 90s topping 93 which is better than last year, his slider from what I've heard looks filthy, he also said that he changed his routine this offseason.

    I have a hard time calling Allard a prospect anymore, everytime I see him I'm just confused on how he managed a 2.72 ERA in AAA as a 20 year old. He doesn't have a fastball good enough and his secondary pitches aren't anything special, I've even seen him multiple times pitch 2-3 complete innings without inducing a swing and miss.
    Scouts said this from the start, he doesn't have swing and miss stuff. He pitching to contract, he can still be effective at that if he gets good control. I wanted to deal him as soon as his stock reached it's highest point but its a little late now. Don't see him with enough value to get anything worth wild back at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    Scouts said this from the start, he doesn't have swing and miss stuff. He pitching to contract, he can still be effective at that if he gets good control. I wanted to deal him as soon as his stock reached it's highest point but its a little late now. Don't see him with enough value to get anything worth wild back at this point.
    Man, but is crazy, he kinda reminds about another Braves lefty, Chuck James, didn't have the fastball and wasn't great with his control either, that guy managed to put huge numbers in the minors, even better than Allard, at an older age though, and even though he was in an MLB rotation for two years, his results were at best a 5th starter caliber pitcher.

    I think the Braves didn't play their hands well with Allard, when his stock was sky high he was great trade bait, pitchers with his kind of stuff and control don't constantly excel in the majors.

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    Kyle Wright pitching well again today. He has to be the leader to stay in the rotation permanently.
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    Until Folty is back I would guess:

    Newcomb
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    Quote Originally Posted by beldugo View Post
    Man, but is crazy, he kinda reminds about another Braves lefty, Chuck James, didn't have the fastball and wasn't great with his control either, that guy managed to put huge numbers in the minors, even better than Allard, at an older age though, and even though he was in an MLB rotation for two years, his results were at best a 5th starter caliber pitcher.

    I think the Braves didn't play their hands well with Allard, when his stock was sky high he was great trade bait, pitchers with his kind of stuff and control don't constantly excel in the majors.
    I haven't been able to see much of Allard but how did a guy who doesn't have overpowering or swing-and-miss stuff manage to get to AAA at age 20? That not normal even for pitchers with great stuff, much less the guys who don't possess top-tier stuff. I assume the Braves will keep him in AAA and observe him to see if Allard makes changes or improvements that could alter his chances for success at the MLB level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hector olivera? View Post
    I haven't been able to see much of Allard but how did a guy who doesn't have overpowering or swing-and-miss stuff manage to get to AAA at age 20? That not normal even for pitchers with great stuff, much less the guys who don't possess top-tier stuff. I assume the Braves will keep him in AAA and observe him to see if Allard makes changes or improvements that could alter his chances for success at the MLB level.
    Exactly, that's certainly not normal and he also was very good in AAA, he's a guy that might get better with experience but the jump from AAA to the majors might be too high for a guy with his stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Until Folty is back I would guess:

    Newcomb
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    Fried
    Fried over Touki??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach100 View Post
    Fried over Touki??


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    Well of course after I posted that Touki came in and pitched 4 shut out innings. He was hit hard early in camp, though. But yeah I think Touki will start out in AAA. Fried has looked good and I think they'll bounce him between starting and the bullpen this year. I really like Fried in the rotation. Sounds like Wright is the closest one to locking down a spot in the rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Well of course after I posted that Touki came in and pitched 4 shut out innings. He was hit hard early in camp, though. But yeah I think Touki will start out in AAA. Fried has looked good and I think they'll bounce him between starting and the bullpen this year. I really like Fried in the rotation. Sounds like Wright is the closest one to locking down a spot in the rotation.
    I hope not. I think they just need to leave him in the rotation and leave him.

    I hate when they start bouncing them back and forth.

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