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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    To show the obvious double standard some people have in their supposed standards.

    I will give you this though, you at least admit you simply see the identity as lesser than others. Most people will not admit that is what they are doing. You don't seem to have the same double standard you just are openly bigoted towards this one identity.
    I really don't have a double standard, I view ideologies/religions like Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Islam etc. all as dangerous. It goes back to knowing what these ideas teach and what their preachers and followers do. And seeing and knowing the history of these ideologies. Its something that we shouldn't condone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Because most leftist posters are anti religion, so when you say something hypocritical it will be very apparent to them.
    It wouldn't be, because those posters couldn't, shouldn't or wouldn't know what the hell the posters belief was. You deal with what was said and the question that was raised. Its just a cop out to not deal with what was said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    I really don't have a double standard, I view ideologies/religions like Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Islam etc. all as dangerous. It goes back to knowing what these ideas teach and what their preachers and followers do. And seeing and knowing the history of these ideologies. Its something that we shouldn't condone.
    I agree that you openly treat these ideologies differently and have stated you openly admit to seeing them as lesser. Most people do not openly state they think leftism/Muslims are lesser but clearly have double standards around them.

    You do have different standards but you admit it is because you think of them lesser. When I get into why you think of Islam as lesser though I think there is a double standard in the way one could treat Christianity the same way and call it a dangerous ideology too. Unless you agree Christianity is/can reasonably be seen as lesser than others in the same way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    If any person can have any interpretation of literally anything.. then whats the point of having names or meanings of things? I mean a Christian can't be a Christian if they don't believe in Jesus. You have to have a certain baseline or guideline to go off of. It seems to me that you think anybody can interpret whatever they want and call themselves faithful. That's just not the case.
    If you interpret that way yes you can, but you would be wrong. If Islam states to kill unbelievers but only a few people did, it still would be allowed because it is within the religion. It doesn't matter if only a few do it. It still means that EVERY single person who follows that faith are allowed and commanded to kill those that don't believe like them. We don't need that kind of ideology in the US.
    Vast majority of muslims will tell you they follow their religion and they do not kill people. So what this religion commands us to do in your eyes is very different than in our eyes.

    And the reason is simple. There is very specific context surrounding verses regarding warfare. You do not take this context into account and so your ignorance is very strongly affecting your opinion. Meaning your opinion is based in ignorance. That's why you are able to so boldly say the things you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    No not at all. It's called defending yourself. There's nothing muslim or Christian about it.
    Yes there is. Both jesus and Muhammad faced persecution and violence in their life. Both had very different reactions. In america, at least for duration of my life, american culture teaches to react the way prophet of my religion reacted, not yours. That's not to say one is better or worse, that is to point out the irony and stupidity of what you are saying. You are sitting here using your words to attack the ideology your actions follow.

    What weighs more? Actions or words?
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    "i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts

    "God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory

    "don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    You're looking for a lot of answers to do with islam, never with christianity. Your answer seeking makes you come off as a hypocrite, maybe a little bigot. Not true bigotry from inside of you, but bigotry that rubbed off from many of your political role models
    I'm sorry for questioning you, it wasn't my intent to come off in this way.

    how about this, I will assume that you too are also against radicals abusing the Islamic religion, and I wont ask you again.
    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

    a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.
    #TrumpDerangementSyndrome
    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Praise be

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    https://news.yahoo.com/rep-ilhan-oma...102600904.html

    Rep. Ilhan Omar Says ‘We Must Stop Detaining’ Illegal Immigrants
    Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar on Thursday called for the U.S. government to cease detaining illegal immigrants.

    Omar tweeted an ABC News story about a tiny Georgia town having more detained illegal immigrants than residents. Her takeaway: America shouldn’t be detaining those who cross the border illegally.

    “This should never be the case,” she wrote. “The cruelty of our immigration system becomes clearer every day. We must stop detaining immigrants and start giving them pathways to citizenship.”

    this person be crazy, just stop detaining anyone that illegally crosses the border? she ****ing nuts.

    I do agree that the immigration process is broken and there should be a quicker process for those that legally want to immigrate to America. but hell no to stop detaining immigrants that willingly break the law by illegally crossing the border. even those that want asylum have to be detained so that they can be processed and only those eligible are given asylum.

    to say stop detaining anyone would be comparable to giving someone a gun before they pass any background check, stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

    a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.
    #TrumpDerangementSyndrome
    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    I agree that you openly treat these ideologies differently and have stated you openly admit to seeing them as lesser. Most people do not openly state they think leftism/Muslims are lesser but clearly have double standards around them.

    You do have different standards but you admit it is because you think of them lesser. When I get into why you think of Islam as lesser though I think there is a double standard in the way one could treat Christianity the same way and call it a dangerous ideology too. Unless you agree Christianity is/can reasonably be seen as lesser than others in the same way?
    Not at all. I don't think that anyone is greater or lesser than me. All the same. They just believe in dangerous things, that's what makes me more skeptical of these certain people. Less trustworthy.
    All ideologies/religions are not equal. Are equating that they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Vast majority of muslims will tell you they follow their religion and they do not kill people. So what this religion commands us to do in your eyes is very different than in our eyes.

    And the reason is simple. There is very specific context surrounding verses regarding warfare. You do not take this context into account and so your ignorance is very strongly affecting your opinion. Meaning your opinion is based in ignorance. That's why you are able to so boldly say the things you do
    Yes I know the context. That's why I'm so against it. Because I know about it, unlike the ignorant who call Islam a "religion of peace".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Yes there is. Both jesus and Muhammad faced persecution and violence in their life. Both had very different reactions. In america, at least for duration of my life, american culture teaches to react the way prophet of my religion reacted, not yours. That's not to say one is better or worse, that is to point out the irony and stupidity of what you are saying. You are sitting here using your words to attack the ideology your actions follow.

    What weighs more? Actions or words?
    Yes. One taught to forgive and pray for those who persecute you, the other killed them. Who's the better example?

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    https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/fbi-re...d-her-brother/
    Hard to say its a silly conspiracy anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    Yes I know the context. That's why I'm so against it. Because I know about it, unlike the ignorant who call Islam a "religion of peace".
    Oh ok, so what is the context in which we are told to fight?
    RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS

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    "God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory

    "don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    Yes. One taught to forgive and pray for those who persecute you, the other killed them. Who's the better example?
    I dont know, you tell me, you tell your sons to forgive and pray for the guy or to defend himself? lol. You tell your sons to react like Muhammad, not jesus.

    You see how your words and your actions contradict one another?
    RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS

    "i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts

    "God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory

    "don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train

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    Nessy me and you should have a convo in the religion forum. It will be fun.

    I got a feeling you might find what you're looking for
    RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS

    "i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts

    "God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory

    "don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train

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