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    Bulls Trade: Otto Porter for Jabari Parker & Bobby Portis

    The pick is top 36 protected also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stunner View Post
    The pick is top 36 protected also
    If the Bulls still need protection on the 6th pick in the second round 4 years from now...god ****ing help us all.
    Wenn Sie dies lesen durch elektronische ‹bersetzung, Sie sind jetzt noch lahm als Sie waren als Sie zum ersten Mal las und verstand es nicht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin25 View Post
    Yeah and that's because Barnes takes 15-16 shots a game. While Porter only averages 10-11 shots a game. If Porter is shooting 14 or 15 shots a game. His scoring can go away up. Having the ball always in Wall or Bealey hands. He didn't often get consistent shots with the Wizards. That's why this is a good trade. Because Porter still only 25 and has potential to do more in a different situation.
    Yeah thatís basically my point lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChitownbullsBG7 View Post
    We are nowhere near NBA hell. We are currently 4th with 6 games in the W column between us and the hawks. With 29 games to go., if porter makes that up then he will be playing at an all-star level. Plus draft odds are way different.
    Yeah 4 spot is only 1.5% less chance we get the #1 seed or a measly 3 extra ping pong balls out of 200...

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    Solid trade for Bulls. Found a team desperate enough for cap space to give up on a young player with potential to get better. Yeah, his contract isn't the best, but given that Lauri and WCJr are on rookie contracts, it's easier to swallow. Plus we have ~19 million still to fill out a bench.

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    Anyway we twist this, it was a pretty good deal for us. It won't take us out of the top 4 odds in the draft, it prevents us from paying too much for a backup big stuck behind Lauri and Carter who are both better then Bobby, and it got is a legit SF who can shoot and defend.

    Like everyone in here has been saying, we weren't going to get one of the big names next offseason. They are going to flock to the teams that are positioned to win now. Going into next season we now have a core that works, and a 1st round pick that will likely be top 4 unless we got extremely unlucky.


    If we land Zion or Barrett, we should try to Sign Darren Collison or Derrick Rose.

    If we get Morant, we should probably find a veteran Stretch 4/5 on the cheap.

    We also get the Grizz's 2nd rounder which should fall between 35-40. I like Paschall, Nowell, Konate, Reid, Edwards around there.

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    Lol...nice stat on Gar

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin25 View Post
    Yeah and that's because Barnes takes 15-16 shots a game. While Porter only averages 10-11 shots a game. If Porter is shooting 14 or 15 shots a game. His scoring can go away up. Having the ball always in Wall or Bealey hands. He didn't often get consistent shots with the Wizards. That's why this is a good trade. Because Porter still only 25 and has potential to do more in a different situation.
    This, for the most part. If he gets 5 more shots a game and an assist or two with more usage, heís putting up jimmy butler numbers. That makes him a hell of an asset or core player. If heís truly leveled off heís still movable on his deal, and if he falls apart heíll be an expiring after next season. Nothing hurt here. Trading Portis was the right thing to do for Portis and for the team, heíll realize that when heís starting. Parker didnít have any value once the DNPís started stacking up. Itís a fine deal if heís nothing more than a functional 3, and a great deal if his numbers improve even slightly. If the goal is to develop these young guys, you need to have a functioning team to see what you have.

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    The Bulls have made some solid moves since deciding to rebuild:


    Butler and Justin Patton

    for

    Lavine, Lauri, Dunn


    Niko

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    Chandler Hutchison


    Holiday

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    Seldon and top 40 pick


    Portis, Parker, 2023 2nd top 36 protected

    for

    Otto Porter


    Nothing

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    Timothe Luwawu

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    Would not doubt a portis for Fultz Deal. (As its the only type of deal making sense. I would have prefered that and traded Jabari for Barnes...... But you cant all ways be perfectly happy.


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    Butler, Niko, Holiday, Portis, Parker were all expendable. None of them were going to be a part of the future here. Portis was the only one that could have been, but it would have been a bad idea if he gets 15 million plus for 4 years.

    Portis at 15+ from 2020 to 2023 really doesn't make sense when we have Lauri and Carter.

    Porter at 28 million through 2021 makes so much sense. If there was ever a time to take on a bad contract for a young 3 and D wing, it was right now. Even if we get Zion, Zion/Lauri/Carter won't be legit threats until around 2021. So we really don't need the cap space in 2020 and 2021. And it's not like we don't have any as it is. We still only have 81 million locked in next year, so we will have room to add a veteran PG and veteran PF/C.

    This really sets us up well for 2021/22 Free Agency:

    Lopez off the books 2019
    Asik off the books 2020
    Felicio off the books 2021
    Dunn will likely be traded next year, right before his QO year.
    Porter expires in 2021, and we can try to get him on a decent deal or let him walk. I doubt he gets 20+ again
    Valentine will likely be gone at the end of 2021
    Lauri doesn't have to be extended until 2022/23
    Wendell doesn't have to be extended until 2023/24
    Hutch doesn't have to be extended until 2023/24
    Our 2019 1st won't have to be extended until 2024/25

    In the Summer of 2019/20, 2020/21, I would look to overpay some veterans on 1 year deals. They will remain tradeable if they play well since they will be expiring, and if we keep them, hopefully they work out like Redick did for the 76ers. They overpaid him last season, but got him back on a good deal this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyben36 View Post
    Would not doubt a portis for Fultz Deal. (As its the only type of deal making sense. I would have prefered that and traded Jabari for Barnes...... But you cant all ways be perfectly happy.
    I'm sure if it didn't happen, it's because the 76ers were asking for more than Portis for Fultz. I'd probably rather have Porter then Fultz anyways. At least we know Porter could be an above average 3 and D in the league. We don't even know if Fultz will ever do anything.

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