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  1. #916
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    the only way to restructure Cousins' contract is to extend him....the fact that we've not heard that as even a remote rumor may infer the Vikings aren't ready to do that....
    That is correct and I agree. There should be no talks of that at this point. That's why to me the Cousins contract was perfect...it's a win/win for both sides because if it doesn't work then both parties can part after only 3 years. And if it does, well that means we've had success.

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    I feel the same about Cousins as I did Ponder. Letís see if I can explain this right. When Ponder was drafted, he was expected to be the franchise QB. He was projected to be a late 2nd, early 3rd, but the Vikings reached (a lot of teams needed a QB that draft.) Itís not Ponders fault that he was drafted that high. If we would have snagged him in the 3rd, no one would have cared that he was a bust. Blame the Vikings for drafting him that high. So sort of the same with Cousins. He didnít force the Vikings to sign him at that price. The Vikings chose to give him that much. If he would have got a lot less, no one would be complaining about his play. If he originally had a much smaller contract, I guarantee everyone would want him extended.

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    Vikings MLB Eric Kendricks has agreed to a restructured contract.
    The Vikings needed to create cap space for their rookie draft class. Kendricks has undoubtedly turned a large portion of his $4.15 million 2019 salary into a bonus that can be prorated across the final five years of his deal. Now 27, Kendricks signed a five-year, $50 million extension last April and proceeded to have arguably the worst year of his career. He will be on the spot in 2019.

    Viking signed No. 18 overall pick G/C Garrett Bradbury to a four-year contract.
    The deal includes a fifth-year team option for 2023. Bradbury won the 2018 Rimington Trophy as the nationís top center, though he is also capable of playing guard. He appears to be sticking at center for the Vikes. Although Bradbury is limited to the interior by 31 ĺ-inch arms, he combines big, heavy hands (10 Ĺ") with 90th-percentile SPARQ athleticism and strength to neutralize even his most-powerful opponents. Smart (35 Wonderlic score), well rounded, and pro-ready, Bradbury profiled as one of the safest prospects in the draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleplayer543 View Post
    Vikings MLB Eric Kendricks has agreed to a restructured contract.
    The Vikings needed to create cap space for their rookie draft class. Kendricks has undoubtedly turned a large portion of his $4.15 million 2019 salary into a bonus that can be prorated across the final five years of his deal. Now 27, Kendricks signed a five-year, $50 million extension last April and proceeded to have arguably the worst year of his career. He will be on the spot in 2019.

    Viking signed No. 18 overall pick G/C Garrett Bradbury to a four-year contract.
    The deal includes a fifth-year team option for 2023. Bradbury won the 2018 Rimington Trophy as the nationís top center, though he is also capable of playing guard. He appears to be sticking at center for the Vikes. Although Bradbury is limited to the interior by 31 ĺ-inch arms, he combines big, heavy hands (10 Ĺ") with 90th-percentile SPARQ athleticism and strength to neutralize even his most-powerful opponents. Smart (35 Wonderlic score), well rounded, and pro-ready, Bradbury profiled as one of the safest prospects in the draft


    that should take the heat off rudolph. guess it will be rehashed in january.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Swayze View Post
    I feel the same about Cousins as I did Ponder. Letís see if I can explain this right. When Ponder was drafted, he was expected to be the franchise QB. He was projected to be a late 2nd, early 3rd, but the Vikings reached (a lot of teams needed a QB that draft.) Itís not Ponders fault that he was drafted that high. If we would have snagged him in the 3rd, no one would have cared that he was a bust. Blame the Vikings for drafting him that high. So sort of the same with Cousins. He didnít force the Vikings to sign him at that price. The Vikings chose to give him that much. If he would have got a lot less, no one would be complaining about his play. If he originally had a much smaller contract, I guarantee everyone would want him extended.

    Meh? Yay? Nay?
    Extremely NAY. If we didnt give him that contract he would of gotten it somewhere else. Alot different from reaching for a QB in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carter80 View Post
    Extremely NAY. If we didnt give him that contract he would of gotten it somewhere else. Alot different from reaching for a QB in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Swayze View Post
    I feel the same about Cousins as I did Ponder. Letís see if I can explain this right. When Ponder was drafted, he was expected to be the franchise QB. He was projected to be a late 2nd, early 3rd, but the Vikings reached (a lot of teams needed a QB that draft.) Itís not Ponders fault that he was drafted that high. If we would have snagged him in the 3rd, no one would have cared that he was a bust. Blame the Vikings for drafting him that high. So sort of the same with Cousins. He didnít force the Vikings to sign him at that price. The Vikings chose to give him that much. If he would have got a lot less, no one would be complaining about his play. If he originally had a much smaller contract, I guarantee everyone would want him extended.

    Meh? Yay? Nay?
    I get what you are saying. For the most part I don't think people have a problem with his overall play because if you look at the numbers, they are damn good. In fact he's the only QB in history with 4000 yards, 30+ TD's, 70% completion and less than 10 or less INTS. But as we all know, it's the big games at the end of the season that we (perhaps he failed). Cousins is paid as an elite QB which imo elite QB's can carry a team and he can't. He's still a good QB though, just needs help.

    People might laugh but I still find him very comparable to Brees. Brees gets a pass because he has 1 Super Bowl but would they be saying the same thing if he was at 0? People tend to forget the 3 season stretch recently where they were a .500 or less team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacofunk64 View Post
    I get what you are saying. For the most part I don't think people have a problem with his overall play because if you look at the numbers, they are damn good. In fact he's the only QB in history with 4000 yards, 30+ TD's, 70% completion and less than 10 or less INTS. But as we all know, it's the big games at the end of the season that we (perhaps he failed). Cousins is paid as an elite QB which imo elite QB's can carry a team and he can't. He's still a good QB though, just needs help.

    People might laugh but I still find him very comparable to Brees. Brees gets a pass because he has 1 Super Bowl but would they be saying the same thing if he was at 0? People tend to forget the 3 season stretch recently where they were a .500 or less team.
    I was guilty of it last offseason, but we gotta stop comparing Cousins to Brees. Brees is a superbowl champion and when he isnít paired with a historically bad defense, takes his team to the playoffs and does damage when he gets there. Cousins folds like a cheap lawn chair in every big game he plays in and is still without a playoff victory. The fact that he couldn't take this team to the playoffs in a weak NFC last year was a joke. He canít even carry Drewís jock at this point.

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    I continue to assert my position that I will make no judgements on Cousins until I see him play behind a respectable OL. if we have that this year and he doesn't lead us to 10+ wins this season, we better be drafting a QB high in next year's draft. My one beef with Spielman is that he's a "reactionary" GM that attempts to plug holes only when they arise. I'd like to see him be more "proactive" in his moves that will help us 2-3 years down the road. Teams that have quality starting QB's on rookie deals have a huge advantage over teams that have 25% of their cap tied up in a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasthemasta View Post
    I was guilty of it last offseason, but we gotta stop comparing Cousins to Brees. Brees is a superbowl champion and when he isnít paired with a historically bad defense, takes his team to the playoffs and does damage when he gets there. Cousins folds like a cheap lawn chair in every big game he plays in and is still without a playoff victory. The fact that he couldn't take this team to the playoffs in a weak NFC last year was a joke. He canít even carry Drewís jock at this point.
    That's my point...he has a Super Bowl. His record against winning teams for example was very poor up until a few years ago. Last year not included, Cousins had some real bad defenses as well. You look at their career stats and they line up as well. I'm just saying give Kirk a shot like people gave Drew when he switched from SD to NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacofunk64 View Post
    That's my point...he has a Super Bowl. His record against winning teams for example was very poor up until a few years ago. Last year not included, Cousins had some real bad defenses as well. You look at their career stats and they line up as well. I'm just saying give Kirk a shot like people gave Drew when he switched from SD to NO.
    but Zimmer would never allow bountygate to happen
    ......oh, that's not where you were going.....tho pummeling Rodgers like the Saints did Favre would be fairly enjoyable
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Hereís how the Vikings should finish the off-season

    Moves:
    1. Cut Everson Grffen as a post 6/1 release (saves 7.5 mil)
    2. Sign DT Muhammad Wilkerson (1 year Ė 2.5 mil). Great buy low candidate and the Vikings donít have a real pass rushing 3-technique.
    3. Sign DE Michael Johnson (1 year Ė 2.5 mil) Zimmerís guy, only 1 year older than Griffen without the mental health issues. Still great against the run and can split time with Weatherly and Barr on passing downs. Wasnít great rushing the passer last year, but will do better against right tackles and with fewer snaps.
    4. Sign WR Mike Wallace (1 year - 1.5 mil) Bounce back candidate, still great on slant routes. Iím not comfortable with our 3rd WR spot as it is. His down year in Minnesota wasnít his fault.
    5. These moves save at least 1 million against this yearís cap

    Roster
    QB (2) - Cousins, Sloter
    RB (3) - Cook, Mattison, Boone
    FB (1) - Ham
    WR (6) - Thielen, Diggs, WALLACE, Mitchell, Johnson, Badet/Beebe
    TE (4) - Rudolph, Smith, Morgan Conklin
    OL (9) - Rieff, Samia, Bradbury, Kline, OíNeil, Hill, Collins, Elflein, Jones

    DE (4) - Hunter, JOHNSON, Weatherly, Bower/Aruna/Mata'afa
    DT (6) - Joseph, WILKERSON, Stephen , Johnson, Watts, Holmes
    LB (5) -Barr, Kendricks, Wilson, Gedeon, Smith
    CB (6) - Rhodes, Waynes, Hughes, Alexander, Hill, Boyd
    S (4) -Smith, Harris, Kearse, Smith/Abernathy

    Specialist (3) Ė Bailey, Wile, Cutting
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPH2013 View Post
    Hereís how the Vikings should finish the off-season

    Moves:
    1. Cut Everson Grffen as a post 6/1 release (saves 7.5 mil)
    2. Sign DT Muhammad Wilkerson (1 year Ė 2.5 mil). Great buy low candidate and the Vikings donít have a real pass rushing 3-technique.
    3. Sign DE Michael Johnson (1 year Ė 2.5 mil) Zimmerís guy, only 1 year older than Griffen without the mental health issues. Still great against the run and can split time with Weatherly and Barr on passing downs. Wasnít great rushing the passer last year, but will do better against right tackles and with fewer snaps.
    4. Sign WR Mike Wallace (1 year - 1.5 mil) Bounce back candidate, still great on slant routes. Iím not comfortable with our 3rd WR spot as it is. His down year in Minnesota wasnít his fault.
    5. These moves save at least 1 million against this yearís cap

    Roster
    QB (2) - Cousins, Sloter
    RB (3) - Cook, Mattison, Boone
    FB (1) - Ham
    WR (6) - Thielen, Diggs, WALLACE, Mitchell, Johnson, Badet/Beebe
    TE (4) - Rudolph, Smith, Morgan Conklin
    OL (9) - Rieff, Samia, Bradbury, Kline, OíNeil, Hill, Collins, Elflein, Jones

    DE (4) - Hunter, JOHNSON, Weatherly, Bower/Aruna/Mata'afa
    DT (6) - Joseph, WILKERSON, Stephen , Johnson, Watts, Holmes
    LB (5) -Barr, Kendricks, Wilson, Gedeon, Smith
    CB (6) - Rhodes, Waynes, Hughes, Alexander, Hill, Boyd
    S (4) -Smith, Harris, Kearse, Smith/Abernathy

    Specialist (3) Ė Bailey, Wile, Cutting
    Everson ainít going anywhere

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    Ya Griff took a cut already to help the team and it would be a **** as move to then cut him. Besides we need him and I think he'll rebound back to form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacofunk64 View Post
    Ya Griff took a cut already to help the team and it would be a **** as move to then cut him. Besides we need him and I think he'll rebound back to form.
    Agreed. Plus he's the true definition of a "Zimmer" guy. Plus he's the vocal leader of the defense when he's not playing. I still get amp'd up listening to this.

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