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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvaged Ship View Post
    Majority of so called experts picking the Vikings to win. This game is huge, both in the standings and for respect.
    They don't know anything.

    Vegas know something though. Casinos don't build themselves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    They don't know anything.

    Vegas know something though. Casinos don't build themselves.
    Vegas picking the vikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    They don't know anything.

    Vegas know something though. Casinos don't build themselves.
    Vegas doesn't know anything, they set the line and move it around in reaction to where the money is going.

    The Vikings were a Super Bowl contender last season and people just don't buy the bears quite yet.
    Not surprising they're starting off as a favorite, the line will shrink.

    Edit: Not sure where you got the vegas stuff from anyway, they're favoring the bears by 3 which is pretty standard for the home team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG2TB View Post
    Perhaps. Didnít like him smiling and grinning though and am generally just annoyed. At any rate, Bears have little choice but to ride it out with him. Like you said, thereís talent there and perhaps more importantly, money tied to him.
    Its more because of the circumstance the laughter IMO. If he was off. Missing constantly. Its a completely different scenario the whole situation was odd and a little comical by the 3rd and 4th time. Its such an add circumstance it would be like steph curry getting 3-4, balls stuck in the rim in one game.

    I seriously think no kicker could hit the upright 4 out of 6 kicks on purpise. And the fact he did on accident....... Is kinda incredible circumstance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyben36 View Post
    Its more because of the circumstance the laughter IMO. If he was off. Missing constantly. Its a completely different scenario the whole situation was odd and a little comical by the 3rd and 4th time. Its such an add circumstance it would be like steph curry getting 3-4, balls stuck in the rim in one game.

    I seriously think no kicker could hit the upright 4 out of 6 kicks on purpise. And the fact he did on accident....... Is kinda incredible circumstance.
    Yeah but still...chuckle to yourself. Itís not very amusing that you miss xtra points and FGs on top of it. And itís not like heís been very good this year either. Would he have been laughing if the bears were losing? The game wasnít over at that point things could happen. I just donít like to see stuff like that. Then his comments after the game that Jesus wanted that game for him or something along those lines and the fact he hasnít practiced at soldier field....the guy deserves the criticism heís getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    Vegas doesn't know anything, they set the line and move it around in reaction to where the money is going.

    The Vikings were a Super Bowl contender last season and people just don't buy the bears quite yet.
    Not surprising they're starting off as a favorite, the line will shrink.

    Edit: Not sure where you got the vegas stuff from anyway, they're favoring the bears by 3 which is pretty standard for the home team.
    I don't think you know much about betting football, which is fine - a lot of people don't. But you probably shouldn't say things so authoritatively when you don't know what you're talking about.

    Vegas sets a line where they believe the market will react with even money on each team. They opened the line at -3 in favor of the Bears, suggesting that they expect sharp (typically the earliest) money will come in evenly on the Bears surrendering 3 points and the Vikings getting 3. The closer the actual outcome is to the Vegas line, the more money the house ultimately collects - hence the casinos not building themselves remark. You take those same bets and same lines and multiply them tens of thousands times over, you build yourself a casino.

    Barring injury, the line isn't at all likely to shrink, as it hasn't to this point. It briefly moved from 3 to 2.5 and then (probably sharp) market correction moved it quickly back to 3. Plenty of people believe in the Bears, most significantly - the Vegas oddsmakers whose livelihoods depend on their ability to correctly forecast these games.

    The whole point was that the pundits don't know anything - they don't have to; they get to keep their jobs either way. Vegas does not have that same luxury, which is why they're right so much more often than (insert NFL writer here). In this case they support the Bears; doesn't make them a lock to win by any means, but as a Bear fan you'd obviously rather have them be 3 point favorites than 3 point dogs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    I don't think you know much about betting football, which is fine - a lot of people don't. But you probably shouldn't say things so authoritatively when you don't know what you're talking about.

    Vegas sets a line where they believe the market will react with even money on each team. They opened the line at -3 in favor of the Bears, suggesting that they expect sharp (typically the earliest) money will come in evenly on the Bears surrendering 3 points and the Vikings getting 3. The closer the actual outcome is to the Vegas line, the more money the house ultimately collects - hence the casinos not building themselves remark. You take those same bets and same lines and multiply them tens of thousands times over, you build yourself a casino.

    Barring injury, the line isn't at all likely to shrink, as it hasn't to this point. It briefly moved from 3 to 2.5 and then (probably sharp) market correction moved it quickly back to 3. Plenty of people believe in the Bears, most significantly - the Vegas oddsmakers whose livelihoods depend on their ability to correctly forecast these games.

    The whole point was that the pundits don't know anything - they don't have to; they get to keep their jobs either way. Vegas does not have that same luxury, which is why they're right so much more often than (insert NFL writer here). In this case they support the Bears; doesn't make them a lock to win by any means, but as a Bear fan you'd obviously rather have them be 3 point favorites than 3 point dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    I don't think you know much about betting football, which is fine - a lot of people don't. But you probably shouldn't say things so authoritatively when you don't know what you're talking about.

    Vegas sets a line where they believe the market will react with even money on each team. They opened the line at -3 in favor of the Bears, suggesting that they expect sharp (typically the earliest) money will come in evenly on the Bears surrendering 3 points and the Vikings getting 3. The closer the actual outcome is to the Vegas line, the more money the house ultimately collects - hence the casinos not building themselves remark. You take those same bets and same lines and multiply them tens of thousands times over, you build yourself a casino.

    Barring injury, the line isn't at all likely to shrink, as it hasn't to this point. It briefly moved from 3 to 2.5 and then (probably sharp) market correction moved it quickly back to 3. Plenty of people believe in the Bears, most significantly - the Vegas oddsmakers whose livelihoods depend on their ability to correctly forecast these games.

    The whole point was that the pundits don't know anything - they don't have to; they get to keep their jobs either way. Vegas does not have that same luxury, which is why they're right so much more often than (insert NFL writer here). In this case they support the Bears; doesn't make them a lock to win by any means, but as a Bear fan you'd obviously rather have them be 3 point favorites than 3 point dogs.
    Well, favorites are favorites and dogs are dogs for a reason. It's just stat based, not opinion based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    Well, favorites are favorites and dogs are dogs for a reason. It's just stat based, not opinion based.

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    That's only correct to an extent. Statistical algorithms make up a hefty chunk of what goes into a given spread. Not 100% of it however, for the same reasons the BCS no longer exists. Humans (oddsmakers) are still employed to account for lots and lots of things, including but not limited to - aspects like weather, degree of current injury impact, etc. Variables that don't show up in stats. The house wants every edge possible, would be doing themselves a disservice to rely wholly on a cumulative number crunch.


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