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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    I've watched hours of her content, and many of her interviews.

    She's also Anti-War, Pro-Free Speech, has spoken out against cancel culture, Defended the CovCath kids, called out the left on it's double standards in regards to the way they covered the Christ Church Shooting, Compared to the Easter bombing. She's for roping in big tech, and while she acknowledges the countries bigotry in the past disagree's with Cancel Culture, and spoke out against those who were trying to cancel Tucker Carlson over inappropriate comments he made on "Bubba the Love Sponge" 15 years ago, because while she dislikes Tucker Carlson an ENORMOUS amount, she is against retroactive outrage. Also, like J.Doer and Kulinski she never supported the Russia Hoax.

    She's also not very gun grabby. I like her take on immigration in that we need to focus on getting businesses to verify that they're employees are eligible to work here, and instead of punishing the migrants, hammering the businesses, (though I would say any migrant who is using stolen SS info needs to be prosecuted for Identity Theft.

    I like her for basically all the same reason's I like Tulsi more or less.

    I'm happy to watch people I disagree with. I think everyone should, if you want some solid RW news to consume, I would say the Federalist or National Review if you want the high brow ****. Or Daily Wire if you don't mind a little less polish. And Obviously I think the Epoch times does a really good job especially on their Asian Coverage. To get a different perspective on news and politics. I would say I consume much more left wing media than right wing media. It's the moralizing ideologues I can't stand.
    I stand corrected and apologize for judging you wrongly. Yeah, that Russian thing was all smoke and mirrors. I stop taking it seriously and anybody pushing hard on it after eight months.

    I will give the Daily WIre and the Epoch a try. The Federalist and National Review are the enemy camp to me.

    I try to read up on the foreign scene, mostly the environmental area and sometimes China's foreign affairs in Africa. India and Pakistan, but nothing really deep. Bits and pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    The money will run out.
    You know that statement can be said about our government financing endless wars.

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    Yea, well I don't support stupid wars either, lol. Trump's actually been pretty good with regards to that so you got nothing to complain about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    My bad, no I can't be absolute. Who can be or should be expected to speak in the absolute? I am sorry you got that impression.

    Would you agree that right now, our republican party has a strong anti-socialism, religious, and big business influence? Which effect national policies?

    In the major European (the economical center of Europe) countries, Britain, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, and Netherland. can you find me a major political party who have those influences working together? And powerful enough to influence their national policies?
    I'd say Brittan right now with the Torries in Charge, and the Brexit party behind them backing them. Though I don't think they have the same religious bias or at least not to the same degree.
    And Marrie LePenn's party in France could be right behind them.
    Europe in general is seeing a pretty big right wing shift.


    I think that's a fair characterization. Though I do wonder how committed they are to the religious aspects. Since you likely don't pay to much attention to the goings on of the right, were starting to see a split between religious conservatives and libertarian conservatives in the party right now. This fissure has been exemplified by the feud between david french vs sohrab ahmar, but has been going on behind the scenes in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    Yea, well I don't support stupid wars either, lol. Trump's actually been pretty good with regards to that so you got nothing to complain about.
    I'm definitely not, while Trump could be better, I'm pretty happy with his lack of interventionism so far, that could change if he drags us to war with Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    Yea, well I don't support stupid wars either, lol. Trump's actually been pretty good with regards to that so you got nothing to complain about.
    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    I'm definitely not, while Trump could be better, I'm pretty happy with his lack of interventionism so far, that could change if he drags us to war with Iran.
    I dislike many things about Trump but there are many key political aspects like this where I think he is mostly just the same old same old or even better (for example than those who do drag us into war, so long as things don't change as cia is getting at).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    I stand corrected and apologize for judging you wrongly. Yeah, that Russian thing was all smoke and mirrors. I stop taking it seriously and anybody pushing hard on it after eight months.

    I will give the Daily WIre and the Epoch a try. The Federalist and National Review are the enemy camp to me.

    I try to read up on the foreign scene, mostly the environmental area and sometimes China's foreign affairs in Africa. India and Pakistan, but nothing really deep. Bits and pieces.
    And here you were believing I was ONLY thinking with my dick...instead of ALSO thinking with my dick.

    Yeah, that's why so many progressives I've tuned out, like Pacman, Humanist Report, Sam Seader etc. TYT but that's a whole separate bag for why I don't like those dishonest hacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    I dislike many things about Trump but there are many key political aspects like this where I think he is mostly just the same old same old or even better (for example than those who do drag us into war, so long as things don't change as cia is getting at).
    I know you didn't mention me in this post. But, I hate you. You got me agreeing with fingerbang. LOL. You cold heart bastard

    I starting to get depressed. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    And here you were believing I was ONLY thinking with my dick...instead of ALSO thinking with my dick.

    Yeah, that's why so many progressives I've tuned out, like Pacman, Humanist Report, Sam Seader etc. TYT but that's a whole separate bag for why I don't like those dishonest hacks.
    Sometimes it is hard to tell the different. LoL, even my boy Jimmy had a problem with it.

    Yeah, I have started taking TYT with a grain of salt. Ego driven like Niko. I hate the pure rant and raving of some of the progressive channel. Just the facts, people. But, I do like that TYT advertises the community leaders and progressive candidates that the mainstream media don't cover. The same with Democracy Now.

    There is very few news outlets that cover all my beliefs or cover them all well. That is why I spin thru a lot of different podcasts. I am checking out Beau of the fifth Column (especially on race relation and policing) now while tuning out Bill Maher more and more, especially when he started talking about needing and wanting a recession so that Trump will be defeated. He is talking like a pure idiot. He thinks the democrats should pull together to push for Amy Klobuchar to be the nominee for president. Someone who has .0001 polling numbers.

    I don't know if it is being dishonest or being unprofessional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    I'd say Brittan right now with the Torries in Charge, and the Brexit party behind them backing them. Though I don't think they have the same religious bias or at least not to the same degree.
    And Marrie LePenn's party in France could be right behind them.
    Europe in general is seeing a pretty big right wing shift.


    I think that's a fair characterization. Though I do wonder how committed they are to the religious aspects. Since you likely don't pay to much attention to the goings on of the right, were starting to see a split between religious conservatives and libertarian conservatives in the party right now. This fissure has been exemplified by the feud between david french vs sohrab ahmar, but has been going on behind the scenes in general.
    Not only Europe and us, but right-wings leaders are also springing up all over the place. Bosonaro in Brazil and his deforestation policies, Pangulo in the Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, who has and is giving our national leaders and NATO fits Even China leader is becoming more right-wing in his consolidation of power.

    If I am not mistaken both German and France main parties have beaten back right-wing opposition in their last election. Russia have been backing many right-wing groups across Europe. Greece is seeing the rise of neo-nazi, The Golden Dawn. Which I find amazing considering their grandparent fought the german nazi occupation.

    I saw that split between republican fractions out the side of my eyes, but I didn't know it was starting to be problematic. I have not seen this mentioned in mainstream or progressive outlets. Is it similar to the in-fighting between the progressive and wall-democrat that is occurring now within the democrat party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Not only Europe and us, but right-wings leaders are also springing up all over the place. Bosonaro in Brazil and his deforestation policies, Pangulo in the Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, who has and is giving our national leaders and NATO fits Even China leader is becoming more right-wing in his consolidation of power.

    If I am not mistaken both German and France main parties have beaten back right-wing opposition in their last election. Russia have been backing many right-wing groups across Europe. Greece is seeing the rise of neo-nazi, The Golden Dawn. Which I find amazing considering their grandparent fought the german nazi occupation.

    I saw that split between republican fractions out the side of my eyes, but I didn't know it was starting to be problematic. I have not seen this mentioned in mainstream or progressive outlets. Is it similar to the in-fighting between the progressive and wall-democrat that is occurring now within the democrat party?
    GOP fracture has been ongoing since neocons captured the party in the 80s. The DNC fracture seems to be just beginning, which is why all the 'woke' politics were deployed in order to sideline actual tangible policy differences. The template for this was how Occupy Wall Street was intentionally destroyed from within, and to a lesser extent from without by virtue of the corporate media's narrative that it was a bunch of indigent hippies instead of a populist opposition to high finance.

    The Tea Party was similarly besmirched by the media (even though they basically agreed with OWS on many things) as old white racists, however that movement led to Donald Trump. The GOP fracture appears less imminent than the DNC one but that is only because Trump sits in the White House, similar to how Obama placated a lot of limousine liberals in the pre-Woke (pre-2014) era. As soon as Trump's (likely 2 terms) are up we are in for a wild ride of GOP populists that will mirror AOC and Ilhan Omar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    I would say Trump supporters are pretty unanimous on hating what the Europeans are doing right now. Personally, I don't like Trump's character but LOVE that his policies vary greatly from what the EU is doing. They've gone full ****** with social justice and mass immigration. The money will run out.
    Very few, if any, of Trumpís supporters know the first thing about Europe or their policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Very few, if any, of Trumpís supporters know the first thing about Europe or their policies.

    Sure, the average voter in this country doesn't know squat, they mostly sound like you. But the people who follow politics that support him basically all support Brexit, are against the big overbearing EU, think mass immigration without a plan is reckless, see free speech being chipped away by arrogant lefties, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    GOP fracture has been ongoing since neocons captured the party in the 80s. The DNC fracture seems to be just beginning, which is why all the 'woke' politics were deployed in order to sideline actual tangible policy differences. The template for this was how Occupy Wall Street was intentionally destroyed from within, and to a lesser extent from without by virtue of the corporate media's narrative that it was a bunch of indigent hippies instead of a populist opposition to high finance.

    The Tea Party was similarly besmirched by the media (even though they basically agreed with OWS on many things) as old white racists, however that movement led to Donald Trump. The GOP fracture appears less imminent than the DNC one but that is only because Trump sits in the White House, similar to how Obama placated a lot of limousine liberals in the pre-Woke (pre-2014) era. As soon as Trump's (likely 2 terms) are up we are in for a wild ride of GOP populists that will mirror AOC and Ilhan Omar.
    The neocons pushing Bush into invading Iraq started (or brought out in the open) the base revolt. The tea party if I remember correctly started as a refutation of Bush's war and killing our national budgets for that war. Then it got taking over by the right-wing donor nation which steered it away from its origins and OWS flavoring to attacking Obama, which brought out a lot of racism within the party. That racism was something that, previously a Democrat, Trump used to ride the republican ticket into the White House. The minute he slithered down that escalator, he started attacking minorities.

    Obama placated not only the limousine liberals but the heat behind Occupy Wall Street crowd. The leftist and progressive never got the campaigning version of Obama. They kept hoping for that Obama to emerge even when he was filling his cabinet with wall street people, and following the neocon agenda in the middle east. They started calling him Bush lite. They never got the angry black man they were hoping for. The betrayal of his promise to them, the DNC cheating Bernie in 2016, Hillary trying to dress herself up as a progressive and finally Trump's victory led to the rise of progressive candidates like AOC.

    I posted here after that massive nationwide women march, that happen after the 1st week of the Trump administration, that something was going to come out of this. You just can't piss off that many women and don't expect blowback.

    Sure enough, most of the women who ran and won office in 2018 had their roots (or made up their minds to run) in that march.

    Trump isn't going to see the 2nd term. Farmers are having buyer remorse in the upper and lower mid-west, independent won't flock to him again and he doesn't have a highly unlikeable candidate like Hillary to run against.

    I just hope it isn't Biden, I don't want to see a bumbling old men debate.
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    Itís just not a coincidence anymore. Whoís missing here hmmmm




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