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  1. #7606
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Not one policy that Sanders has presented is Marxist, communist, or socialist. Just thought you would want to know so that you don't make an embarrassing mistake and display you don't know what any of those terms actually mean. That would be very unfortunate.
    Yeah yeah, if you don't like Bernie you don't know what socialism akshually is, brainwashed, so on and so forth. Got it.

    I didn't say Sanders was a Marxist. My point is that you can't find a Marxist or quasi-Marxist regime in world history that Sanders won't go out of his way to find the silver linings within. I stand by it. It's a pretty easy one, given how consistently he leans into it.

    I probably just don't know anything though or I watch too much FOX or CNN or whoever's being more unfair to Sanders this week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    Yeah yeah, if you don't like Bernie you don't know what socialism akshually is, brainwashed, so on and so forth. Got it.

    I didn't say Sanders was a Marxist. My point is that you can't find a Marxist or quasi-Marxist regime in world history that Sanders won't go out of his way to find the silver linings within. I stand by it. It's a pretty easy one, given how consistently he leans into it.

    I probably just don't know anything though or I watch too much FOX or CNN or whoever's being more unfair to Sanders this week.
    So by your pathetic logic, Barack Obama finds silver linings within "Marxist" regimes.

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    You're living in a fantasy world my dude.

    The point you're looking for is Sanders may win MN outright now when he may or may not have before. That would be a fair point. It overlooks the run at MN viability that Biden can now make, but overlooking Biden is a bit of a Sanders squad hallmark, so nothing really of note there.

    The notion that Amy Klobuchar voters will now abandon every platform that Amy Klobuchar ran on and turn to Bernie Sanders, in the wake of Klobuchar openly decrying to her followers to vote for Joe Biden, is, to put it as politely as I can, an absolute fantasy.
    She was only that high because of the home state effect. If it was policy purposes she would be running at 40% in every state..... I’m not sure you realize how this works.

    Biden doesn’t just miraculously slide into that home state effect candidate. Her support will dissipate mostly along the lines of the breakout as it currently was with a slight tilt towards Biden.

    I repeat her support was inflated tremendously outside of her policy. Minnesota policy wise is much more closer to Sanders, she just happens to be the sitting senator there.

    And Biden and them are much more focused on forcing a close contested convention than winning outright, which they are much less likely to do. He needs the few delegates less than needing to stop Sanders from amassing more of them which a near even split from Klo and Sanders would have done if she stayed in through Tuesday and then dropped out right afterwards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    Yeah yeah, if you don't like Bernie you don't know what socialism akshually is, brainwashed, so on and so forth. Got it.

    I didn't say Sanders was a Marxist. My point is that you can't find a Marxist or quasi-Marxist regime in world history that Sanders won't go out of his way to find the silver linings within. I stand by it. It's a pretty easy one, given how consistently he leans into it.

    I probably just don't know anything though or I watch too much FOX or CNN or whoever's being more unfair to Sanders this week.
    Do you want Trump re elected or not? That's really what this nomination is about. Joe Biden is a less hated version of Hillary but backed by all the same people. At the same time the only way he can actually win is by the party elites picking him at the convention because he won't have more votes or delegates. A Joe Biden nomination would be 1968 all over again.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/03/02/...ssons-of-1968/

    That says after a landslide victory in 1964, with over 60% of the popular vote and winning all but 8 states, the democrats got destroyed just four years later in 1968 after a brokered convention where the party elites picked the establishment pro-Vietnam war candidate Hubert Humphrey over the anti-Vietnam anti-establishment candidate Senator Eugene McCarthy, who entered the convention with the most votes and delegates. If they do the same thing in 2020 they are telling the world that defeating Donald Trump isn't the #1 goal, keeping their power is. That will cost them any chance at winning the Presidency, a chance at a majority in the Senate, and possibly the House again.

    And it would serve them right.

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    We're going to squander the opportunity of a lifetime because Democrats think this is the guy to rally around...

    https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe...f-hes-elected/

    Former Vice President Joe Biden assured rich donors at a ritzy New York fundraiser that “nothing would fundamentally change” if he is elected.

    Biden told donors at an event at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan on Tuesday evening that he would not “demonize” the rich and promised that “no one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change,” Bloomberg News reported.
    This guy, too.

    HELLO

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    Can't wait to give Biden the finger at the ballot box tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    We're going to squander the opportunity of a lifetime because Democrats think this is the guy to rally around...

    https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe...f-hes-elected/



    This guy, too.

    Why do you think Biden is going to get the nom now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    Lol yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlakeyFool View Post
    So by your pathetic logic, Barack Obama finds silver linings within "Marxist" regimes.
    I think this'll be my last post engaging with your replies, probably - I'm not of the opinion that you know very much about the guy you're all about other than the homogenized talking points of his campaign. But to lend you the time of day, there's about four decades worth of Sanders bending over backwards to praise various policies from every dictator under the sun, and then there's a thing Obama said, that he shouldn't have and of course walked back, about childhood education and Cuban life expectancy. The immediate walking back versus the relentless leaning in is one of, I don't know, ten thousand things that differentiate Barack Obama from Bernie Sanders. Maybe you knew that and were being deliberately obtuse, maybe you didn't and you're not very aware - idk. But it's all out there, should you ever care to look.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    We're going to squander the opportunity of a lifetime because Democrats think this is the guy to rally around...

    https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe...f-hes-elected/



    This guy, too.

    Joe Biden, and down ballot democrats, will absolutely lose if he's the nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Not one policy that Sanders has presented is Marxist, communist, or socialist. Just thought you would want to know so that you don't make an embarrassing mistake and display you don't know what any of those terms actually mean. That would be very unfortunate.
    Apparently the new big form of socialism is “democracy at work,” which Bernie supports in part (mandating that 20% of the workforce be represented on a company’s board). Bernie identifies as a socialist and has stated that he is not a capitalist, but I get that he has to operate within our political structure, which protects democracy and private enterprise and property for the most part. But certain aspects of our society would obviously be “socialized,” including health care, housing (well at least a national rent control) and education, if Bernie got everything he wanted. But yea, a lot of the “socialism” would also come in the form of higher taxes and the creation of new ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    I think this'll be my last post engaging with your replies, probably - I'm not of the opinion that you know very much about the guy you're all about other than the homogenized talking points of his campaign. But to lend you the time of day, there's about four decades worth of Sanders bending over backwards to praise various policies from every dictator under the sun, and then there's a thing Obama said, that he shouldn't have and of course walked back, about childhood education and Cuban life expectancy. The immediate walking back versus the relentless leaning in is one of, I don't know, ten thousand things that differentiate Barack Obama from Bernie Sanders. Maybe you knew that and were being deliberately obtuse, maybe you didn't and you're not very aware - idk. But it's all out there, should you ever care to look.
    Yeah I'm for sure done with you. You think the guy is a Marxist/socialist/demon whatever and stick your fingers in your eye when facts are presented to you.

    You should actually do what you preach and you'd likely have a different opinion of Bernie. I'm quite aware of his consistent record.

    Have fun rubbing corn pops legs tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerSL View Post
    Joe Biden is a less hated version of Hillary but backed by all the same people.
    Here's the thing. A less hated version of Hillary wins in 2016. Handily.

    Republicans came out and voted in '16 in line with '12, and in line with '08. When they lost. Why didn't they lose this time?

    Because Democrats didn't. Forget the Obama percentages, they didn't even need those. If Dems showed up for Hillary somewhere amid even the Gore/Kerry levels, Hillary walks. They didn't.

    Now sprinkle in four years of everything from vitriol to exhaustion among the voting public that makes up the ~60% that isn't Trump's base. How do you **** a recipe for a W like that? Well, you could run Bernie Sanders. That'd be one way.

    Or you could run the most milquetoast guy that ever lived in Joe Biden and you toss in a dash of Obama nostalgia. Boom. Dub.


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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    I think this'll be my last post engaging with your replies, probably - I'm not of the opinion that you know very much about the guy you're all about other than the homogenized talking points of his campaign. But to lend you the time of day, there's about four decades worth of Sanders bending over backwards to praise various policies from every dictator under the sun, and then there's a thing Obama said, that he shouldn't have and of course walked back, about childhood education and Cuban life expectancy. The immediate walking back versus the relentless leaning in is one of, I don't know, ten thousand things that differentiate Barack Obama from Bernie Sanders. Maybe you knew that and were being deliberately obtuse, maybe you didn't and you're not very aware - idk. But it's all out there, should you ever care to look.
    homogenized talking points? Are you lactose intolerant or just trying to sound smart?
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