The 2020 Presidential Race

[SpecialFNK]

No reason to explain things to cultish conspiracy theorists but you mentioned dominion. I can't speak to other states but here in PA he won 12 out of 14 counties that used dominion.

You know the two counties Trump's most fixated on, Allegheny (Pitt) and Philadelphia, did not use dominion machines either.

It is amazing how brazen they have been considering how there's literally not one but of evidence suggesting what you're saying. Brazen.

Again. I just wasted my time. But whatever

Democrats in 2018 that were also against Dominion, what to say abut them?

[SpecialFNK]

I thought whistleblowers were supposed to believed.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ons-backdating

Sworn testimony of several whistleblowers on Tuesday alleged what one election integrity activist is calling "potential ballot fraud on a massive scale," with multiple eyewitnesses testifying to alleged suspicious behavior in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

In a press conference in Arlington, Va., the Amistad Project — a civil liberties initiative of the Thomas More Society — presented the testimony of three individuals who claim to have witnessed apparent voting malfeasance during the 2020 election.

One, Jesse Morgan, a truck driver for a subcontractor with the United States Postal Service, claimed that a trailer he was driving, one full of potentially upwards of 288,000 ballots, disappeared from its parked location at a Lancaster, Pa. USPS depot after Morgan dropped it off there. Morgan had transported those ballots from Bethpage, N.Y.

[dazz]

the counter argument would be that the presidential election was much more important. it has been fought for the last 4 years that Trump had to be defeated.

Which, of course, would be a stupid counterargument.

[dbroncos78087]

Right-wingers: wearing a mask is an attack on my rights and the constitution

Also, right-wingers:

disclaimer for my man sitewolf: not all right-wingers. maybe not even most.

It's amazing what they think is allowed and also what gets them all bothered about what Democrats do. I suppose they believe that Joe Biden would have the right to suspend the Constitution to go around and take everyone's guns away?

[ManRam]

Democrats in 2018 that were also against Dominion, what to say abut them?

I'm not suggesting I am either "for" or "against" the Dominion machines here.

I'm just pointing out that Trump is alleging fraud because of those machines. Fraud in counties that...well....aren't using those machines.

Got it?

[SpecialFNK]

Which, of course, would be a stupid counterargument.

not at all. what was more important, beating Trump or flipping the Senate. nobody rambled on about how much America needed to flip the Senate over defeating Trump.

some wanted to even prevent Trump from becoming President in the 2016 election, and even after the 2016 election it was alleged he cheated and was illegitimate.

[dazz]

not at all. what was more important, beating Trump or flipping the Senate. nobody rambled on about how much America needed to flip the Senate over defeating Trump.

some wanted to even prevent Trump from becoming President in the 2016 election, and even after the 2016 election it was alleged he cheated and was illegitimate.

That's some ridiculous ad-hoc reasoning right there. More story telling to justify your failed previous story telling and the fact that you have exactly ZERO evidence of fraud.

The truth is that if democrats had been capable and willing to steal the election, they would have won the senate too. And the fact that it never even crossed your deluded trumpian mind speaks volumes for how poor your reasoning skills are.

[ManRam]

lol, Trumpublicans works

I don't often use monikers like that because they sound immature. But even as silent as many Republicans have been on many things Trump has done and is now doing, "Trumpublicans" is an important distinction nonetheless. It's fair. Even if I don't see a whole lot of space between the non-"Trumpublicans" and the "Trumpublicans" a lot of the time.

I get so frustrated when people misconstrue the differences on the left. Like people calling Neera Tanden a radical leftist. I forget what Senator tweeted out that she is dangerous because of her support of m4a. Many have I'm sure. They couldn't be further out of touch. She's a centrist. Not a leftist, at all. She doesn't even support single payer, and has actually been one of the more antagonizing people towards it from within the Party. Hell, she changed he twitter bio from "progressive" to "liberal", which are two different things.

Yet Ted Cruz thinks she's Ilhan Omar I hope to god he knows the actual difference and is just choosing to stampede right over it...because that would be terrifying if he didn't see the difference between the center and the left.

So I do get why it irks you when people blow past the different sects on the right, even if I don't see a huge gap between the two. Many (most? god...you're making me be so careful with these words ) Republicans show no desire to acknowledge the massive differences between a Joe Biden and a Bernie Sanders. When they can Biden a socialist it's infuriating! Insulting to actual socialists!!!!

I know people don't care about Neera but she's just a perfect example. There's nothing radical about her. Unless you think the center is where radical politics live. And I'm way too online so I know what too much about her. Because she is "way too online" herself.

Anyways...

[dbroncos78087]

I don't often use monikers like that because they sound immature. But even as silent as many Republicans have been on many things Trump has done and is now doing, "Trumpublicans" is an important distinction nonetheless. It's fair. Even if I don't see a whole lot of space between the non-"Trumpublicans" and the "Trumpublicans" a lot of the time.

I get so frustrated when people misconstrue the differences on the left. Like people calling Neera Tanden a radical leftist. I forget what Senator tweeted out that she is dangerous because of her support of m4a. Many have I'm sure. They couldn't be further out of touch. She's a centrist. Not a leftist, at all. She doesn't even support single payer, and has actually been one of the more antagonizing people towards it from within the Party. Hell, she changed he twitter bio from "progressive" to "liberal", which are two different things.

Yet Ted Cruz thinks she's Ilhan Omar I hope to god he knows the actual difference and is just choosing to stampede right over it...because that would be terrifying if he didn't see the difference between the center and the left.

So I do get why it irks you when people blow past the different sects on the right, even if I don't see a huge gap between the two. Many (most? god...you're making me be so careful with these words ) Republicans show no desire to acknowledge the massive differences between a Joe Biden and a Bernie Sanders. When they can Biden a socialist it's infuriating! Insulting to actual socialists!!!!

I know people don't care about Neera but she's just a perfect example. There's nothing radical about her. Unless you think the center is where radical politics live. And I'm way too online so I know what too much about her. Because she is "way too online" herself.

Anyways...

I believe you're thinking of John Cornyn. I saw him making some ridiculous statement that mirrors what you're talking about here yesterday.

[Kenny Powders]

I thought whistleblowers were supposed to believed.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ons-backdating

Ooooh, spicy. Will the one term president reveal the name of this whistleblower too? The suspense......is killing me

[ManRam]

I believe you're thinking of John Cornyn. I saw him making some ridiculous statement that mirrors what you're talking about here yesterday.

I have regrets about caring about the Tanden thing because the Republican response to her is infinitely more frustrating. My god they are a bunch of hypocritical snowflakes.

[Sluggo1]

I have regrets about caring about the Tanden thing because the Republican response to her is infinitely more frustrating. My god they are a bunch of hypocritical snowflakes.

I barely remembered this chick's name and had to look up who she was. She seems to be a Hilly person and, I guess, one of those lifetime backstage politicos that drain the swamp was aimed at.

Whatever, she has caused quite a stir so far.More than any opther appointee.

[Bird of Prey]

I thought whistleblowers were supposed to believed.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ons-backdating

Yeah. I watched this guy talk about this on Hannity's show last night. I guess the logic was that New York was never in doubt while Pennsylvania was so they trucked a couple of hundred thousand votes from New York to counter the overwhelming lead that Trump had in Pennsylvania at the time when voting across the country was halted in order to find out how many votes the Dems needed to steal.

Also, how would you like to be just an ordinary citizen, pay your taxes, maybe serve your country, raise your family to respect the laws of the country, etc. Then on election day you go to the polls to vote and the election honcho tells you that you can't vote because their records show that YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED. Think about that. Your VOTE got stolen and now people may be looking at you like you were a crook yourself. Think you'd be very angry?

[Bird of Prey]

How are mail in ballots for people who can’t vote in person because they are out of state suppose to get to Pennsylvania to be counted? Plenty of impartial courts have dismissed these cases, some by Republican even Trump appointed judges. This is fiction being sold by a man whose ego won’t allow him to lose so he must have been robbed.

IT isn't fiction when thousands of affidavits signed under penalty of perjury testify to illegality? As for "impartial" courts. Thats pretty hilarious in this day and age. People have been bought off including Republicans in local offices and judges in lower courts. This happens on both sides. I'm not just pointing fingers at the Dems, the Rep s are crooked themselves.

[spliff(TONE)]

Nah. I am about as far from being a sucker as it gets. I know how much the powers to be hated Trump raining on their parade. And this includes a lot of Never Trumpers also. What does amaze me, though, is how so many people do not care that election fraud has been committed in their country. Why don't you, for example, care? I'd be pissed off if it happened the other way. If Trump had lost fair and square, I'd have been mad of course but I was mad when Obama won. That's on the Reps for not putting out better candidates. But Biden couldn't have beaten Trump without massive fraud. No freeking way.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. I'll consider being concerned when a single shred of convincing evidence is presented. Unlike you, who will believe anything that appears to show Trump came out on top.