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  1. #6886
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    Bye Mike, thanks for playing. Dems donít want a Republican on their ticket apparently (except Biden).

    Iím back to being good with Warren despite her **** voting on military spending. Best balance between progressive and traditional Dem, and has more fight than I anticipated.

    She canít beat Trump but I still like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    As Bernie said: in this country we have socialism for the rich and rugged and bleak individualism for everyone else.


    Fry cooks work hard than Bloomberg, I'm sure.
    But he has no real way of paying for his social programs. Dude thinks he is Santa Claus.
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    So what is the Bernie perfect world for the US?

    This Utopia doesnít exist. The American people know this, and more importantly the DNC knows this.

    Chris Mathews said it:

    If Bernie wins the nomination it will be 49-1 Trump in a landslide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Well it is a violation of the First Amendment. That's the Constitutional issue with making English the national language.
    Dems only use THAT PIECE OF PAPER Obama talked about only for convenience.


    Why should I conform to a different language and the far left wants Spanish as the official
    Language?

    The far left want to change everything in America.
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  5. #6890
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    Bloomberg was awful and I loved it. He was much better off not qualifying for the debates.

    I actually think Amy may shank Pete in the next debate.

    Warren was great, and I think is positioning to get back into the VP position for Bernie.
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  6. #6891
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    Also by far the most entertaining debate since we've had Trump in them.

    Bernie vs Trump is going to be some incredible tv if nothing else.
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    Pete is a natural speaker though, and I think he may have won over at least 3 of rrzub's personalities.

    That may be a plurality, but certainly not a majority and we may have another contested convention on our hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    Pete is a natural speaker though, and I think he may have won over at least 3 of rrzub's personalities.

    That may be a plurality, but certainly not a majority and we may have another contested convention on our hands.
    But he didn't show that fighter mentality like Warren did last night. If he had attack Warren or even Bernie like he did Amy, they would have wiped the floor with him. Warren and Bernie sounds like they are swinging from their gut while Buttigieg from his note cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    So what is the Bernie perfect world for the US?

    This Utopia doesnít exist. The American people know this, and more importantly the DNC knows this.

    Chris Mathews said it:

    If Bernie wins the nomination it will be 49-1 Trump in a landslide.
    Which states do you see Bernie losing? California? Vermont? Youíre so uninformed and out of touch itís painful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    Bloomberg was awful and I loved it. He was much better off not qualifying for the debates.

    I actually think Amy may shank Pete in the next debate.

    Warren was great, and I think is positioning to get back into the VP position for Bernie.
    Agree. Both Pence and Trump will swear off debate out of fear of looking foolish against Bernie/Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Dems only use THAT PIECE OF PAPER Obama talked about only for convenience.


    Why should I conform to a different language and the far left wants Spanish as the official
    Language?

    The far left want to change everything in America.
    You could try to present a cogent thought. I'll let you take another whack at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    Wow! That's the best you got? Good luck fellas.
    Remind me who you got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Agree. Both Pence and Trump will swear off debate out of fear of looking foolish against Bernie/Warren.
    He looked damn foolish against Hillary and he still won the presidency. I don't think that he will refuse a debate. He knows that Fox will clean up any messes that he makes. He's like a dog that makes a mess and then gleefully makes his owner clean it up after he's done rubbing their nose into it.
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    After sleeping on it, the last question about super delegates is definitely the most immediately important issue of the night. It has to be resolved before we even think about Trump, and it's not looking great!

    Anyone who thinks that it would be even kinda okay for superdelegates to pick a nominee -- a nom who did not get the most votes -- is out of their mind. End of story. But I'll keep going!

    Democrats talk all the time (and rightfully so) about how the electoral college is bad because it lets someone win without actually getting the most votes. Ignoring that principle to ensure Mike or Pete win would be both increadibly stupid and a gift to Republicans. Giving them a talking point to use forever. Giving Trump ammo to rail on whoever for being a loser who couldn't even beat Sanders. Not great!

    If you support any of the other 5 candidates on that stage last night just know that they said this: they'd be comfortable throwing millions of votes in the trash and instead letting a few hundred superdelegates decide everything instead. You all better at least own it.

    We're probably going to see record turnout in this primary. So this is great messaging guys! If you want to pick the person best equipped to beat Trump, how about you let the person that got the most votes take their shot at it Bold concept, I know!

    They're the "unity" people too. Where's the "unity" in that? It's a great way to destroy the Party, but not much else. Give up the charade. It's never been about anything other than uniting against Sanders. It's so transparently obvious at this point, especially when the two most bland and formulaic centrists went after each other so hard that they couldn't even shake hands after.


    I really enjoyed Warren last night but her siding with the other 4 at the end, saying that superdelegates -- not the votes of the people -- should decide the election if there's no majority really, really, really stinks. As did her follow up to that after the debate.

    /rant
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    Also, do people like...not think anyone will be worth $2M if Sanders got his way? Holy **** the 3 houses and "he's a millionaire" thing is so absurd. He's 78 years old, has been a United States Senator for 13 years, has written a few very popular books...of course he's worth a couple million. He has a modest house in Vermont and a house in DC where he works. He has a lake house too. You know what? So do my parents and they're both teachers

    To pretend like that means anything, especially compared to a man worth $64 BILLION is insanity. Sanders has never exploited anyone's labor. He has never profited off of anyone but himself. Nothing he is or has done is antithetical to his Democratic Socialist platform.

    Y'all are sounding like Republicans with these inane talking points. Keep trying!

    Every American who works for a living could probably achieve this if they didn't have to blow all their savings on health care costs or the insane costs of education. If we weren't all straddled with debt just so a few people can have more money than we literally can even imagine. But carry on, folks!

    Sorry if I'm sounding like a Bernie Bro again!
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