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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilemplover View Post
    G performed this year as I expected. Guys who change leagues have some early trouble often because all the pitchers are new to them... not to mention they try to play up to expectations (and in NY, that's WAY up) so they try too hard to give the fans what they expect...

    Next year, He'll know how NY is to play for and the pitchers won't all be new... Next year is when I would consider him to be dangerous. Add in Judge being back and Sanchez and now Aaron Boone won't be a rookie no more and that could make a big difference.. if this team was good this year.. next year may be exciting... Add in that Mookie Betts and JDMart will probably come back down to earth and you will probably see fortunes turn over.
    What's the matter with you guys? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Well it ain't over now.

    Niedermeyer...Dead, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    What's the matter with you guys? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Well it ain't over now.

    Niedermeyer...Dead, etc.
    “Farts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” — Aldous Huxley
    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Albert Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin



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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan54 View Post
    Usually when guys come to yanks there first year isn’t anything crazy but usually a good year. Kinda like arod in 2004. Next year i see Stanton going 50 and 125
    Hmm, well anything is possible. His BB% has gone down and his strike out % has gone way up. That is not a good sign of someone who's going to hit 50 home runs.

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    JD Martinez is having a career-year in Boston.

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    I think it was a pretty huge success. He changed league,, had to get used to new pitchers, playing in new parks, and switching positions. Plus he went for a small market team with zero pressure to the largest market team, with tons of pressure and everyone expecting him to hit 50 plus again.

    He also played hurt for a.good part of the season and never complained about it. He also carried the team when Judge and everyone else was hurt.

    I'd do that trade again in a heart beat especially considering we got him for an AAV of about 22m. I expect him, Judge and Sanchez to have the monster yrs we hoped for next yr.

    PPL have brought up his contract and how bad it is when its really quite cheap considering the player. He got 13yrs320m from the Marlins which is about 25m AAV. When we got him from the Marlins they kicked in 30m which makes his AAV about 22m. Considering the kind of player, his age and the future production he's worth every bit of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I think it was a pretty huge success. He changed league,, had to get used to new pitchers, playing in new parks, and switching positions. Plus he went for a small market team with zero pressure to the largest market team, with tons of pressure and everyone expecting him to hit 50 plus again.

    He also played hurt for a.good part of the season and never complained about it. He also carried the team when Judge and everyone else was hurt.

    I'd do that trade again in a heart beat especially considering we got him for an AAV of about 22m. I expect him, Judge and Sanchez to have the monster yrs we hoped for next yr.

    PPL have brought up his contract and how bad it is when its really quite cheap considering the player. He got 13yrs320m from the Marlins which is about 25m AAV. When we got him from the Marlins they kicked in 30m which makes his AAV about 22m. Considering the kind of player, his age and the future production he's worth every bit of that.
    even though stanton had 100 rbi's this was a down season from last year... usually stanton always has a bounce back year after a down season assuming he is healthy....

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    Ill take that kinda down yr every yr

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Ill take that kinda down yr every yr
    Ding ding ding.
    Time to double down on the 'Spects!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    What's the matter with you guys? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Well it ain't over now.

    Niedermeyer...Dead, etc.
    well played
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    I laugh.. 2017 Stanton had a CAREER year.. 2018 he did NOT have a down year.. he had a statically speaking, average year.... anotherwards, he had exactly the kind of year that we should have EXPECTED from him.. and with him playing hurt while Judge and others were out, changed leagues, saw new pitchers and played in different parks...that's great... you hope for the career year but should be happy with his normal year in a year so loaded with change..

    So no.. Giancarlo Stanton was not a mistake, nor was he overpaid. The yanks received exactly what they should have expected.. just because it's not what you expected, does not mean it's a failure for him.. it means you set your expectations way too high..I do expect more from him now that change won't be his #1 thing this season. But to call him a failure, and call it bad year... only people who don't know squat about the game can think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilemplover View Post
    I laugh.. 2017 Stanton had a CAREER year.. 2018 he did NOT have a down year.. he had a statically speaking, average year.... anotherwards, he had exactly the kind of year that we should have EXPECTED from him.. and with him playing hurt while Judge and others were out, changed leagues, saw new pitchers and played in different parks...that's great... you hope for the career year but should be happy with his normal year in a year so loaded with change..

    So no.. Giancarlo Stanton was not a mistake, nor was he overpaid. The yanks received exactly what they should have expected.. just because it's not what you expected, does not mean it's a failure for him.. it means you set your expectations way too high..I do expect more from him now that change won't be his #1 thing this season. But to call him a failure, and call it bad year... only people who don't know squat about the game can think that.
    Exactly, he actually had a hell of a yr compared to 99% of the league. When u factor in all the changes he had to adapt to it's even more impressive. This idea that he is over payed when is AAV for the rest of his contract is only 22m were getting a hell of a deal imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Exactly, he actually had a hell of a yr compared to 99% of the league. When u factor in all the changes he had to adapt to it's even more impressive. This idea that he is over payed when is AAV for the rest of his contract is only 22m were getting a hell of a deal imo.
    I would move him in a heartbeat. That's not an indictment or criticism of his talent. It's just that I think there are better fits than him.

    Unless of course the FO listens to me and starts having him take reps at 1rst. He's not a good fielder in the OF. He's ok but he not anything more than a very average defender.
    If you don't sign harper and you don't move stanton, see if he can play first. Even if it's a couple times a week, it opens up possibilities.



    Mush







    This is the interview when he said the Yankees will sign both Harper and Machado. Then one sentence later, said they wouldn't sign either. It explains the confused look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilemplover View Post
    I laugh.. 2017 Stanton had a CAREER year.. 2018 he did NOT have a down year.. he had a statically speaking, average year.... anotherwards, he had exactly the kind of year that we should have EXPECTED from him.. and with him playing hurt while Judge and others were out, changed leagues, saw new pitchers and played in different parks...that's great... you hope for the career year but should be happy with his normal year in a year so loaded with change..

    So no.. Giancarlo Stanton was not a mistake, nor was he overpaid. The yanks received exactly what they should have expected.. just because it's not what you expected, does not mean it's a failure for him.. it means you set your expectations way too high..I do expect more from him now that change won't be his #1 thing this season. But to call him a failure, and call it bad year... only people who don't know squat about the game can think that.

    Bingo
    definitely a good yr
    a class act who seemed to have been pretty close to perfect with teammates fans & press

    a young johnny bench led the league in passed balls and got better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I would move him in a heartbeat. That's not an indictment or criticism of his talent. It's just that I think there are better fits than him.

    Unless of course the FO listens to me and starts having him take reps at 1rst. He's not a good fielder in the OF. He's ok but he not anything more than a very average defender.
    If you don't sign harper and you don't move stanton, see if he can play first. Even if it's a couple times a week, it opens up possibilities.
    He's actually considered to be an above average OF'er... not Gold Glove mind you.. but very good none-the-less...

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