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Thread: Lev Bell Drama

  1. #316
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkieMark48 View Post
    I would guess the combined records of the raiders/chargers/chiefs are similar to the ravens/bengals/browns in that same time span.
    Let's find out! All data from wikipedia.


    2007 to 2017:

    Browns = 48 wins
    Ravens = 99 wins
    Bengals = 90 wins
    Total == 237 wins

    Raiders = 66 wins
    Chargers = 83 wins
    Chiefs = 82 wins
    Total == 231 wins


    The 2007 to 2010 Chiefs and Raiders were worse than I remembered.

    Also the Bengals have been more sneaky good than I would have put them at. For all the "fire Lewis" stuff, he's actually managed as many wins as the Ravens basically, with arguably worse players.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    Let's find out! All data from wikipedia.


    2007 to 2017:

    Browns = 48 wins
    Ravens = 99 wins
    Bengals = 90 wins
    Total == 237 wins

    Raiders = 66 wins
    Chargers = 83 wins
    Chiefs = 82 wins
    Total == 231 wins


    The 2007 to 2010 Chiefs and Raiders were worse than I remembered.

    Also the Bengals have been more sneaky good than I would have put them at. For all the "fire Lewis" stuff, he's actually managed as many wins as the Ravens basically, with arguably worse players.
    yea, I figured it was going to be pretty close... I'm by no means a Bengals fan, but I feel like I end up with AJ Green on my fantasy teams every year, so I tend to pull for them. I think its the fact they play well during the regular season then in the playoff games look like absolute crap is why their fan base is tired of Marvin
    Last edited by MarkieMark48; 09-14-2018 at 08:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapin78 View Post
    Let's say the Steelers are intent to trade Bell. What teams do you think are picking up the phone and sending trade offers? He would be an upgrade over several teams current roster but which is a good fit salary and system?
    I think there's the catch with this.

    First you got to narrow down to the teams with cap space: Browns, Colts, 9ers, Falcons, Texans, Titans, Jets, Raiders, (the Steelers are the other team with cap space)

    Next lets eliminate the teams that have RB's: Colts, 9ers, Texans, Jets, Raiders

    Next lets eliminate the teams the Steelers are unlikely to pay him past this season: Colts, 9ers, Texans, Jets

    Next I think you are down to the teams that Bell likely wouldn't sign the tender for: Colts, Texans, possibly 9ers

    Could teams without the cap space trade for him? Sure, but that would mean that in all those cases that there would need to be work done with getting salaries to work out.

    I think obviously the Steelers would want at least a 3rd round pick. To me this is only logical because that's what we could get via the compensatory pick system, and knowing this FO (they've had these opportunities in the past), they rather have the 2020 comp pick than the 2019 4th rounder.

    After looking at all of this, it makes me wonder if the Texans would be willing to give up a Conditional 4th (6th if Bell does not resign) and Mercilus or Miller for Bell. Bell is a massive upgrade over Miller, and we could toss in someone like Dupree to replace Mercilus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    Not sure how it's gymnastics if it's something I have always believed. Go read the Jags Steelers playoffs IGT.

    As for your monster QB, it depends on how he played and if the game was won.

    Did Blake Bortles have a monster year in 2015?

    Without the dropped pass and strip sack, we'd probably be talking about Brady's Super Bowl performance this year as the greatest ever.
    Dude get over yourself, trying to say one int wipes out 7 touchdowns and 700 yard's passing. Your making yourself look like a absolute joke with this stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustJoseph View Post
    Dude get over yourself, trying to say one int wipes out 7 touchdowns and 700 yard's passing. Your making yourself look like a absolute joke with this stance.
    The sudden surge of posts from accounts all created in 2017 with the same writing tone is interesting.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustJoseph View Post
    Dude get over yourself, trying to say one int wipes out 7 touchdowns and 700 yard's passing. Your making yourself look like a absolute joke with this stance.
    That's not what I said.

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    So you can't have a monster game if your team loses? Only monster stats?

    Lol you'd make a good politician. You stick to your guns even when completely proven wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by El Patito View Post
    Wow, you just won't let this go will you? I'd be more than happy to provide the numbers again if you'd like. The fact is that Marmol in his best season, put up one of the greatest performances by a reliever in the history of baseball. Better than Rivera? Youre damn right. You can't deny this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrigheyes4MVP View Post
    So you can't have a monster game if your team loses? Only monster stats?

    Lol you'd make a good politician. You stick to your guns even when completely proven wrong.
    I see what hes getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrigheyes4MVP View Post
    So you can't have a monster game if your team loses? Only monster stats?

    Lol you'd make a good politician. You stick to your guns even when completely proven wrong.
    I don't see where I was proven wrong. Basically my point is that context matters. I even provided examples, like the Jags-Steelers playoff game. As far as I can see the position I'm arguing against is that "monster performance" is determined solely by stats from positive plays, while negative plays can be ignored, as well as the game result and the context in which these stats were accumulated (e.g. garbage time). In contrast, I find it pointless to argue about a hypothetical 700 yards, 7 TD performance because I don't see the relevance to the concrete examples I was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    The sudden surge of posts from accounts all created in 2017 with the same writing tone is interesting.
    What are you talking about? What are you the expert post tracker specialist online?

    Good grief your type amazes me when online. Out of all the things football being talked about online you are busy trying to track and compare post for some strange reason.

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    If anybody thinks that 7 touchdowns 1 int and 700 yard's isn't a monster game and should just be brushed under the rug as nothing because the player lost the game is being 20000000% outrageous to the point it is a joke.

    That is a monster historical amount of production and surely it's not getting thrown out because of a int and losing the game.

    Wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustJoseph View Post
    What are you talking about? What are you the expert post tracker specialist online?

    Good grief your type amazes me when online. Out of all the things football being talked about online you are busy trying to track and compare post for some strange reason.
    Dude 400 yard's and 4 touchdown passes and one int is a great game, very good production. People will talk about the int but the production point of view will out weigh it everyday. You said it's pretty much meaningless. Which is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustJoseph View Post
    If anybody thinks that 7 touchdowns 1 int and 700 yard's isn't a monster game and should just be brushed under the rug as nothing because the player lost the game is being 20000000% outrageous to the point it is a joke.

    That is a monster historical amount of production and surely it's not getting thrown out because of a int and losing the game.

    Wow
    Where did I deny that this hypothetical scenario isn't a monster performance?

    All I'm saying is that there is plenty of other things that factor into it apart from 700 yards, 7 TD, 1 Int. Like what are we even talking about here? An NFL team playing against a college team?

    How about this hypothetical: A QB throws for 500 yards, 3 TD, 0 Int, but loses due to a critical strip sack late in the game, and earlier dropped a pass on a trick play that might also have made the difference in a close shootout by extending a drive. Monster performance?
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    Bell seems to be a huge dbag.

    He's "rapped", I think twice, about wanting a new contract, yet he comes out stating that he's "disappointed" the Steelers spoke publicly about his contract.

    He stated that he's concerned of being played too much if he signs his tag....huh?

    If someone is willing to pay you close to 15m to play a game, you do it and make a case for another team to sign you to the contract you want.

    I think Bell is a great player, but he's cutting his own throat, IMO. What team would sign him to a mega deal with the risk of him not being 100% willing to do what he needs to do? The risk of him being lazy after getting a mega deal is high.

    Speaking of "high", he loves smoking weed. If he gets busted again, he'll be banned for a year.

    Too much risk with Bell. He overplayed his hand.

    There's too many RBs that can have decent production.

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    Here's something I thought of. Since Bell has not signed the franchise tag, the Steelers can rescind it can't they? And if it's rescinded then they could give him a contract.

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