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  1. #1351
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Except for the majority of time that we’ve been a species. Civilization is a product of our need to work together, not a product of our need to get on over on the next guy.
    No one is trying to get one over on the next guy…they're just trying to do better for themselves and their families. Someone comes up short, that's the way it is. It will always be that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    So we give them the homes, cars, appliances, whatever they really can't afford. This is an area government could step in.

    Of course, as soon as you properly try to qualify people for lending, it gets called racist
    You don't get called racist, you get called a socialist for trying to regulate government.
    The right in this country would call you anti business.
    Last edited by kevin13697; 01-07-2019 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Bolded…you left out drugs.

    A little self control would be greatly appreciated and go a long way.

    A rule of thumb used to be your home should be no more than 3 times your annual salary. How many people follow that rule anymore?. If enough people held to that, builders would build more moderately priced homes. But people give into these dreams, banks give them money and the builders are happy yo comply. Same with cars. No one ever should take a 7 year loan but many do. Everyone wants navigation systems, power every way seats (how often do you change your seat position), cameras, radars etc.. It just drives the price up and people pay it. There are almost no "reasonably" priced cars and when someone does drive one others seem to make fun of them.n I'm guilty too. We overspent on one of our vehicles. More comfortable, more conveniences. But we could have gotten away for 10 Gs less and still been fine. Human nature.
    as would not capitalizing on human nature. Or creating laws to carve out a specific group of people to criminalize because of the drug they choose. As would actually giving a **** about those in poverty, instead of being lazy and claiming their choices are the reason they are there.

    Meh, keystrokes galore to say the same ****. While I disagree with virtually every thought you have, you sure don't lack patience.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    No one is trying to get one over on the next guy…they're just trying to do better for themselves and their families. Someone comes up short, that's the way it is. It will always be that way.
    We can see that you have no need to worry about house prices what with the rock you're living under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    We can see that you have no need to worry about house prices what with the rock you're living under.
    Getting over the next guy is the name of the business.

    What makes people thrive is competition. An imbalanced wealth gap makes the market less competitive.

    The ugly truth about the US economy is that it is dependent on artificial liquidity and central-bank jawboning, not organic growth.

    There is zero evidence that markets can make or sustain new highs without some sort of intervention on the side of central banks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    we do? We shuttle them into ghettos, imprison their males, toss them enough bread and milk not to starve, give them enough housing to keep them dry, then send a bus around every election to vote for the same old ****.

    Enabling them to better their own lives takes more than giving them the above, and some terrible schools where their kids are more concerned with making it out without a gang killing them or recruiting them, than their education.
    This is what a welfare state turns into every single time. My buddy is an emt in Brooklyn and he jokes about going into public housing and it's beautiful waterfront property and it's just **** now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    This is what a welfare state turns into every single time. My buddy is an emt in Brooklyn and he jokes about going into public housing and it's beautiful waterfront property and it's just **** now.
    The truth is that Democratic views on welfare revolve around demand dictating economic growth and that the federal government should use its power to spur demand when necessary. It's not as much about the people.
    If we want to get people off of welfare, we need good paying jobs to keep up with the demand of our businesses.
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    Popular Billionaire's advice to AOC


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    All the best advice comes from Shark Tank judges...


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
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    2nd best to celebrity apprentice, if only he stood by his word.

    Through manipulation of the “pass-through” filing status, fifteen Republicans from tax-writing committees will receive an average tax cut of $314,000 this year, based upon pass-through income information contained in their financial disclosure forms.
    Originally, the “pass-through” tax status was intended to help small business owners by allowing earnings to be passed through to them to be taxed at the personal income rate instead of the corporate tax rate. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act made this filing status even more lucrative by including a 20% deduction of business income from pass-through owner’s taxes. For example, a pass-through that brings in $100,000 would only be taxed on $80,000. This was included with the stated intention of helping small businesses, but just 10% of taxpayers claiming pass-through income are actual small business employers.
    The other 90% include taxpayers looking to lower their tax responsibility, with half of pass-through income being claimed by those who conduct no business activity at all. According to ThinkProgress, all fifteen Republicans who had a hand in last year’s tax bill fall into the latter category, and stand to gain $314,000 on average in tax savings.
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    Three quarters of Americans favor higher taxes for wealthy
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/11/thre...UeI7R7erhtgf2E

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    She's great. An absolute gift for the progressive agenda.
    She could do just as much harm as good. She plagiarizes a lot of her material and does a bad job of representing it.

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    I agree with Ocasio that our politicians are corrupt. Which is precisely why they don't get more monopoly money to waste.

    I constantly hear **** about how different our political climate is. Go watch those shows about the 80s and 90s, etc. We're still talking about the same crap they were talking about 30 years. They don't fix anything and they always want more of your money.
    Bachelors III . . . In the Inn. . . Lanas Garage 4/18/75 . . . lpswitch with Snake, Hards and Mendy . . .B.D.W.B. . . Ambition: I want Dooleys Job . . . Saturday Night Live . . . Bathroom Brawls . . . Living at Snakes . . . WHERE IS MUSKY. - John Tortorella

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