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  1. #736
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    You keep bringing up things that I'd never defend...

    Like the Clintons.

    I think it's best we move on! At the very least there's not really an easy, or at least quantitative /empirical way, to rank the corruptness of these recent presidents. I see corruption everywhere with Trump...all the way down to all cabinet heads, but you can certainly find corruption everywhere else too.

    I guess as long as we agree that he is not some swamp-draining anti-corruption reformist.
    HELLO

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    He's Donald Trump, he's a pretty well-known commodity. I think overstating your case like calling him a 'mob boss' only hurts credibility. I think when you say 'corrupt' you just mean you disagree with deregulation at the federal level and think everyone should assume (as you do) that one could only believe that if they were nefarious.

    Dude was already a billionaire so it's not like Hillary Clinton's cattle futures, the fiasco with China buying Bill Clinton (funny how there was no foreign meddling special prosecutor in 1996 even though we know it was much worse than what anyone has been able to say Trump did with Russia, which so far is basically nothing). He's also not parlayed his Presidency from debt to extreme wealth, and he doesn't have any bestseller books about his father he met once.

    He is what he is - real estate shameless self promoter with a ego the size of browski's outrage gland. I don't doubt he's done shady stuff in real estate but he's probably what we deserve because it's hard to criticize his failings as a man (and there are plenty) when we're trumpeting John McCain, Barack Obama, and Hillary/Bill.

    I'm actually glad for this wonderful contrast - propping up the Clintons while chiding Trump as a serial woman abuser is an eye opener for average idiots who believe what the actors paid to read the news on TV say. Bill was 'credibly accused' (leftist media term for persecution of their enemies) by a ton of women for things as bad as rape and we're supposed to care what some oaf like Trump said to a buddy on a TV one time a while ago. No wonder people trust the media even less than Congress at this point.
    Let get back to "you know he is a crook and shady as nell." we can talk about how the press sucks and the Clintons sucks and the how and what of Trump's billions in there individual threads. If they ain't one make it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    He's Donald Trump, he's a pretty well-known commodity. I think overstating your case like calling him a 'mob boss' only hurts credibility. I think when you say 'corrupt' you just mean you disagree with deregulation at the federal level and think everyone should assume (as you do) that one could only believe that if they were nefarious.

    Dude was already a billionaire so it's not like Hillary Clinton's cattle futures, the fiasco with China buying Bill Clinton (funny how there was no foreign meddling special prosecutor in 1996 even though we know it was much worse than what anyone has been able to say Trump did with Russia, which so far is basically nothing). He's also not parlayed his Presidency from debt to extreme wealth, and he doesn't have any bestseller books about his father he met once.

    He is what he is - real estate shameless self promoter with a ego the size of browski's outrage gland. I don't doubt he's done shady stuff in real estate but he's probably what we deserve because it's hard to criticize his failings as a man (and there are plenty) when we're trumpeting John McCain, Barack Obama, and Hillary/Bill.

    I'm actually glad for this wonderful contrast - propping up the Clintons while chiding Trump as a serial woman abuser is an eye opener for average idiots who believe what the actors paid to read the news on TV say. Bill was 'credibly accused' (leftist media term for persecution of their enemies) by a ton of women for things as bad as rape and we're supposed to care what some oaf like Trump said to a buddy on a TV one time a while ago. No wonder people trust the media even less than Congress at this point.
    It is amazing how much you can downplay all the things you're critical of Trump on. If I wanted a more objective view of Trump, I'll go read Breitbart.

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    Cute AF

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    I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it and what really offends me: it came from an avowed socialist!

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    the delays of the courts needs to end at some point.
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    And if people got **** counsel, well they had to die so the court could move faster…but tell me again how pro-life you are!
    I was told there would be pro-life! Not pro-death!

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    Alexandria is no different than Trump in that she feeds off those who think her policies can come to fruition. It won't. Her policies are way too liberal and absolutely makes zero sense. Federal guarantee of jobs at a $15 minimum wage is not only stupid but detrimental to society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    It's a terrible comparison that was insensitive but think of it this way, if Trump had done the same, we all know the type of reaction he would get. It's not about being insensitive. It's that these are two completely different cases. One is escaping genocide. Her basis is true, though.
    you are right fleeing violence and fleeing violence are totally different things.

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    man with hair like fire can destroy souls with a twitch of his thighs.

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    I just liked the response from the Auschwicz Memorial.
    Last edited by Ezekial; 11-29-2018 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flips333 View Post
    you are right fleeing violence and fleeing violence are totally different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    I mean, not defending Trump or his minions, or even this action, but trying to force your way into the country is illegal, which is why they sent teargas over. So she is kinda wrong. But she is kinda wrong about a lot. I am not really sure what this train of people thought would happen when they got to the border, and I imagine their patience is at a breaking point, but they should have understood this will take a very long time from beginning to end.
    These are mostly legal asylum seekers.
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