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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    Says the old white man
    ………

    ………who is in complete touch with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    And they need old white men to explain what reality actually is? That would be fresh, never before done thing. Right.
    They certainly need somebody to explain what reality actuality is. The direction the "woke" crowd is going in is counter productive and, frankly, pretty pathetic.

    Here's the Five Year Plan in case you want to know what is coming.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-liv...abolish-police

    I love the phrase "so-called problem of crime." Yeah, she's really in touch. Just klast week a half dozen kids ran into so-called bullets.

    But you go on and keep listenng to this crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    ………

    ………who is in complete touch with reality.
    Sure. You're in complete touch with your own perception of reality.

    I'm not really sure what you take issue with. White men have been in charge since the beginning in the states. She's a young vocal minority woman who's views are vastly different then theirs and has a following. Old white men should feel threatened.

    I mean, it's cyclical though. Soon most become those old people who are clinging to the old way of life while the younger generation starts a change. Just be thankful you made it this far, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    And they need old white men to explain what reality actually is? That would be fresh, never before done thing. Right.
    well, we've seen more of it
    ..the old part, not the white
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    They certainly need somebody to explain what reality actuality is. The direction the "woke" crowd is going in is counter productive and, frankly, pretty pathetic.

    Here's the Five Year Plan in case you want to know what is coming.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-liv...abolish-police

    I love the phrase "so-called problem of crime." Yeah, she's really in touch. Just klast week a half dozen kids ran into so-called bullets.

    But you go on and keep listenng to this crowd.


    FOX news? The one who downplays social gathering and mask-wearing until last week? Who has Laura Ingram who told Lebron to shut up and dribble the ball? Who's talking head hold nightly sessions with Trump? Who speaks for the republican party and has shown the ability to alter the news to fit their narrative? Who never met a black issue that they couldn't crap on?

    No thank you. They focus their news to the wish for the reality of old white men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    Sure. You're in complete touch with your own perception of reality.

    I'm not really sure what you take issue with. White men have been in charge since the beginning in the states. She's a young vocal minority woman who's views are vastly different then theirs and has a following. Old white men should feel threatened.

    I mean, it's cyclical though. Soon most become those old people who are clinging to the old way of life while the younger generation starts a change. Just be thankful you made it this far, I guess.
    I'll try to explain it (like that's going to work here).

    I've said this before…over the past 60-70 years, all the wrongs have been righted. The opportunity (opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity) is there. It is the low hanging fruit. All you (or anyone) has to do is just take it and run with it. No one cares what color you are or where you are from. That may hve been true oin the past but it is not the case now. It is all right there for the taking.

    Having said all that…being equal requires a little bit of work. You need to act equal. You need to comply, need to conform with society's rules and norms.

    Consider…people of color in the military, police departments, fire departments do just fine. They do as well as anyone else. Why is that??? It is because of forced conformity to the norms of those groups. There is no room for diverse thinking in these groups. You can do what you want on your own time, but on the job you are a soldier, or a police officer or a firefighter with rules and norms that demand following.

    Consider…Ilhan Omar recently pointed out how black home ownership is about half of white ownership and that "everyone should own their home." She alludes to this as being racist when the actual reason is that many people of color do not qualify. I've owned two homes in my life span and maybe 15 autos. So that is 17 situations of having been granted a substantial loan. Not one time have I ever had contact with the banker, car dealer, or the sales manager after the loan is made. Not one time. Point is that they are not giving me the loan because they like this nice white guy. We're not hanging together. I'm getting the loan because I qualify. Making these situations racial is flat out wrong. The car dealer, the banker, the credit card company does not make $$$ declining people. They want to make every loan that is in front of them. If you know anyone who works in these areas, just ask them.

    Making every failure you have as a racial event does more harm than good. People who actually run things get tired of these same old songs. Look inward. Maybe that is where the problem is. Clean up the act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    FOX news? The one who downplays social gathering and mask-wearing until last week? Who has Laura Ingram who told Lebron to shut up and dribble the ball? Who's talking head hold nightly sessions with Trump? Who speaks for the republican party and has shown the ability to alter the news to fit their narrative? Who never met a black issue that they couldn't crap on?

    No thank you. They focus their news to the wish for the reality of old white men.
    OK. You're right about all of that. (But your last line is pretty stupid.)

    However, FOX News (GASP!!!!), in addition to the commentators you mention, also reports the news.

    The article I posted was news that actually happened. This woman actually said these things. Care to comment on that?

    And for the record (as if you care) FOX News (GASP!!!!) is the highest rated cable news network…by far. Somebody must be watching them and believe what they are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I'll try to explain it (like that's going to work here).

    I've said this before…over the past 60-70 years, all the wrongs have been righted. The opportunity (opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity) is there. It is the low hanging fruit. All you (or anyone) has to do is just take it and run with it. No one cares what color you are or where you are from. That may hve been true oin the past but it is not the case now. It is all right there for the taking.

    Having said all that…being equal requires a little bit of work. You need to act equal. You need to comply, need to conform with society's rules and norms.

    Consider…people of color in the military, police departments, fire departments do just fine. They do as well as anyone else. Why is that??? It is because of forced conformity to the norms of those groups. There is no room for diverse thinking in these groups. You can do what you want on your own time, but on the job you are a soldier, or a police officer or a firefighter with rules and norms that demand following.

    Consider…Ilhan Omar recently pointed out how black home ownership is about half of white ownership and that "everyone should own their home." She alludes to this as being racist when the actual reason is that many people of color do not qualify. I've owned two homes in my life span and maybe 15 autos. So that is 17 situations of having been granted a substantial loan. Not one time have I ever had contact with the banker, car dealer, or the sales manager after the loan is made. Not one time. Point is that they are not giving me the loan because they like this nice white guy. We're not hanging together. I'm getting the loan because I qualify. Making these situations racial is flat out wrong. The car dealer, the banker, the credit card company does not make $$$ declining people. They want to make every loan that is in front of them. If you know anyone who works in these areas, just ask them.

    Making every failure you have as a racial event does more harm than good. People who actually run things get tired of these same old songs. Look inward. Maybe that is where the problem is. Clean up the act.
    I will try to explain to you (even though it won’t work):

    You’re wrong. All the wrongs have not been righted and yes, contrary to your utopian belief that nobody sees color (honestly, what a hackneyed belief), they do.

    Can you explain this? How come Black applicants for jobs get less call backs when they have ethnic sounding names but get more when they “whiten” their name?

    https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minoritie...ore-interviews


    Why do you think that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I'll try to explain it (like that's going to work here).

    I've said this before…over the past 60-70 years, all the wrongs have been righted. The opportunity (opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity) is there. It is the low hanging fruit. All you (or anyone) has to do is just take it and run with it. No one cares what color you are or where you are from. That may hve been true oin the past but it is not the case now. It is all right there for the taking.

    Having said all that…being equal requires a little bit of work. You need to act equal. You need to comply, need to conform with society's rules and norms.

    Consider…people of color in the military, police departments, fire departments do just fine. They do as well as anyone else. Why is that??? It is because of forced conformity to the norms of those groups. There is no room for diverse thinking in these groups. You can do what you want on your own time, but on the job you are a soldier, or a police officer or a firefighter with rules and norms that demand following.

    Consider…Ilhan Omar recently pointed out how black home ownership is about half of white ownership and that "everyone should own their home." She alludes to this as being racist when the actual reason is that many people of color do not qualify. I've owned two homes in my life span and maybe 15 autos. So that is 17 situations of having been granted a substantial loan. Not one time have I ever had contact with the banker, car dealer, or the sales manager after the loan is made. Not one time. Point is that they are not giving me the loan because they like this nice white guy. We're not hanging together. I'm getting the loan because I qualify. Making these situations racial is flat out wrong. The car dealer, the banker, the credit card company does not make $$$ declining people. They want to make every loan that is in front of them. If you know anyone who works in these areas, just ask them.

    Making every failure you have as a racial event does more harm than good. People who actually run things get tired of these same old songs. Look inward. Maybe that is where the problem is. Clean up the act.
    You know, I watched a video on Facebook the other day that explained how black people have been systematically oppressed over the last 100 years and a major aspect was home ownership. Now, I can't link the video and you probably wouldn't care to watch it and frankly I'm not interested in getting into a long back and forth with you.

    The simplest way I can put it for you is that it seems people are getting sick tired of being told what to do and not do by old white men.

    You're living in a time of change, slugster. Embrace it!

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    You decide to rob a man and in so doing you shoot him in the leg. His leg starts bleeding profusely, and generously you decide that you don’t really want him to die. So, you tie a tourniquet around his leg, take him to a hospital, pay for his leg to be amputated (with the money you just stole from him). He recovers.

    See, all wrongs have been righted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    OK. You're right about all of that. (But your last line is pretty stupid.)

    However, FOX News (GASP!!!!), in addition to the commentators you mention, also reports the news.

    The article I posted was news that actually happened. This woman actually said these things. Care to comment on that?

    And for the record (as if you care) FOX News (GASP!!!!) is the highest rated cable news network…by far. Somebody must be watching them and believe what they are saying.
    Nope. Stats have proven that the FOX audience is predominantly white Conservative older men. FOX, CNN, MSNBC combine have a lower rating than The Game of Thrones. Most people don't watch either of the news outlets, so being the highest rated doesn't mean so much. The younger generations, and leftist don't watch them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I'll try to explain it (like that's going to work here).

    I've said this before…over the past 60-70 years, all the wrongs have been righted. The opportunity (opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity) is there. It is the low hanging fruit. All you (or anyone) has to do is just take it and run with it. No one cares what color you are or where you are from. That may hve been true oin the past but it is not the case now. It is all right there for the taking.

    Having said all that…being equal requires a little bit of work. You need to act equal. You need to comply, need to conform with society's rules and norms.

    Consider…people of color in the military, police departments, fire departments do just fine. They do as well as anyone else. Why is that??? It is because of forced conformity to the norms of those groups. There is no room for diverse thinking in these groups. You can do what you want on your own time, but on the job you are a soldier, or a police officer or a firefighter with rules and norms that demand following.

    Consider…Ilhan Omar recently pointed out how black home ownership is about half of white ownership and that "everyone should own their home." She alludes to this as being racist when the actual reason is that many people of color do not qualify. I've owned two homes in my life span and maybe 15 autos. So that is 17 situations of having been granted a substantial loan. Not one time have I ever had contact with the banker, car dealer, or the sales manager after the loan is made. Not one time. Point is that they are not giving me the loan because they like this nice white guy. We're not hanging together. I'm getting the loan because I qualify. Making these situations racial is flat out wrong. The car dealer, the banker, the credit card company does not make $$$ declining people. They want to make every loan that is in front of them. If you know anyone who works in these areas, just ask them.

    Making every failure you have as a racial event does more harm than good. People who actually run things get tired of these same old songs. Look inward. Maybe that is where the problem is. Clean up the act.
    The US has has almost no upward mobility. The opportunity isn't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Nope. Stats have proven that the FOX audience is predominantly white Conservative older men. FOX, CNN, MSNBC combine have a lower rating than The Game of Thrones. Most people don't watch either of the news outlets, so being the highest rated doesn't mean so much. The younger generations, and leftist don't watch them.
    People that watch cable news watch FOX News (Gasp!!!) more than any other. That is a fact that advertising revenue is based on.

    You counter that by comparing people who watch cable news with people that are interested in Wizards nd dragons. That must mean something. Not sure what, but I guess it means something.

    And by the way, care to comment on the legitimate news article I posted or did you just not read it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    I will try to explain to you (even though it won’t work):

    You’re wrong. All the wrongs have not been righted and yes, contrary to your utopian belief that nobody sees color (honestly, what a hackneyed belief), they do.

    Can you explain this? How come Black applicants for jobs get less call backs when they have ethnic sounding names but get more when they “whiten” their name?

    https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minoritie...ore-interviews


    Why do you think that is?
    I don't really know…but I can postulate.

    Point 1: Minorities do a great job of shooting themselves in the foot. A few weeks ago, virtually 100% of the population was on the side of BLM because of the George Floyd incident. Then look how these street idiots handled themselves. Everyone was on board with changes in the police departments. Based on all the rioting and looting and some of the really stupid demands, they lost a lot of that edge.

    Point 2: Minorities cry racism on everything that happens to them. No matter what goes wrong…it is racist. Hiring an employee is a long term commitment. In the normal course of employment things happen…raises, promotions, people come in late, people call in sick etc. A minority could see a different outcome to the same event as a white person and cry racism. e.g. White employee asks for an extra day off and it given it since business is slow. Minority asks for a day off a month later and is declined because business is very busy. Good chance the race card pops out…hearing in HR, papers signed, diversity policies reviewed. All over a simple day off during a slow period or busy period. I was a security director for a good sized financial institution (700 FT employees plus PT empl). You would not believe what it was like handling employee problems with minorities. White people, no probs, just fire them.

    Now subconsciously during the hiring practice is it possible that the hirer believes that hiring a minority may be more trouble down the road than thy whitey…yes. I believe that that is possible and probably happens. Which is why anyone looking for a job should strive to get a face to face interview. You will stand a much better chance.

    Given all that I have pointed out, it goes back to another point that I've brought up…Part of equality is acting equal. If you're a minority try acting, dressing, talking etc. like everyone else in our society (worked for BO). And stop claiming racism for every little thing. You may be amazed as to how far you get.

    However, feel free to do whatever you want. Just seems like whatever you are doing isn't working out very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    People that watch cable news watch FOX News (Gasp!!!) more than any other. That is a fact that advertising revenue is based on.

    You counter that by comparing people who watch cable news with people that are interested in Wizards nd dragons. That must mean something. Not sure what, but I guess it means something.

    And by the way, care to comment on the legitimate news article I posted or did you just not read it???

    It came from FOX. Nope. I already told you why. Accountability problem. They haven't met a Black issue that they couldn't crap on. I probably don't take FOX seriously as you don't take BET news seriously. So what is the beef?

    FOX higher rating then MSNBC and CNN don't mean sh it accept some need for bragging rights. People under fifties don't watch those news outlets for various reasons, some valid.

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