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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Nobody should be surprised about a plant? I feel like everybody should be surprised. Plants are not that common at events like this. Her not expecting a plant is not unreasonable.
    don't be so naive.
    nobody should expect a plant, but nobody should be surprised when one is revealed as such.


    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    To be clear, the reason AOC didn't denounce this person is her belief she was mentally ill. By saying Trump shouldn't have to shut down his supporters chanting send her back, are you saying that everyone in the crowd chanting was mentally ill?
    that is what your side says on a regular basis, mentally ill, evil, racist, sexist, and whatever other negative adjective one can come up with to describe literally anyone that supports Trump.



    if Trump is expected to respond here, or when disavow/denounce racists like David Duke (which he has done), then AOC should be expected to do the same, especially when she alone is someone to expect Trump to do it.


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    how many people knew that Adam Schiff was Jewish. this information from AOC is news to me, and from what I've read many others that didn't know either.

    this is what AOC does, she uses words like this for impact/manipulation. she did the same thing when she was talking about the video of her released by a Republican.




    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/04/...c-impeachment/

    To be clear: More than 200 House Democrats have signed onto an impeachment inquiry and yet the president chose to target only three of them by name, two of whom are Jewish: Adam Schiff and Jerrold Nadler, chairs of the House Intelligence and Judiciary committees. The third target was — surprise! — a woman of color, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Shamefully, he attacked all of them as “savages.”
    this logic is flat out stupid when Trump has attacked/criticized many different Democrats. idiots i'm sure would love to ignore that when trying to manipulate people.

    this attack against Adam Schiff I guess Schiff defendants would like to ignore things like the fact Adam Shiff literally lied to people about the transcript, that he later called parody. that alone is reason enough to attack Schiff. add in Schiff is someone who has continuously been against Trump, including saying Trump did collude with Russia, which was proven to be false.

    Adam Schiff is a liar..



    "It’s about a damning call in which the President pressured a foreign power to investigate a political rival, harming national security."

    nobody pressured Ukraine President, even the Ukraine President said so.



    AOC often uses words like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post


    are you really suggesting that Democrats deserve no blame at all for anything?
    Hell, son don't you always blame a democrat for something? If we diss Trump you are right there to diss a democrat for dissing Trump. I blame Pelosi, Obama, and Clinton for problems their leadership causes in the past and you know that. Especially for coddling Trump or continue warfare in the middle east.

    By the way, in another thread soon after I posted this post, a republican poster is already blaming democrat if Trump is impeached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    don't be so naive.
    nobody should expect a plant, but nobody should be surprised when one is revealed as such.

    that is what your side says on a regular basis, mentally ill, evil, racist, sexist, and whatever other negative adjective one can come up with to describe literally anyone that supports Trump.

    if Trump is expected to respond here, or when disavow/denounce racists like David Duke (which he has done), then AOC should be expected to do the same, especially when she alone is someone to expect Trump to do it.
    First Bolded: When one is revealed as such. The person wasn't revealed as such during their encounter, she only learned she was a plant after.

    Second Bolded: Well I'm asking you now.

    Third Bolded: She did denounce her, after it was revealed she was a plant.


    Do you seriously think AOC is OK with people eating babies? Yes or no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Hell, son don't you always blame a democrat for something? If we diss Trump you are right there to diss a democrat for dissing Trump. I blame Pelosi, Obama, and Clinton for problems their leadership causes in the past and you know that. Especially for coddling Trump or continue warfare in the middle east.

    By the way, in another thread soon after I posted this post, a republican poster is already blaming democrat if Trump is impeached.
    I blame where I think blame is due, including Trump. maybe you haven't been aware of this when you were not around.

    Democrats should get blame if they impeach Trump, impeachment is something that they were squawking about before Trump took office.







    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    First Bolded: When one is revealed as such. The person wasn't revealed as such during their encounter, she only learned she was a plant after.

    Second Bolded: Well I'm asking you now.

    Third Bolded: She did denounce her, after it was revealed she was a plant.


    Do you seriously think AOC is OK with people eating babies? Yes or no.
    was the revealed, yes or no? yes. it doesn't matter when. I bet these happen more than you think.

    I don't know whether AOC is okay with it, she didn't respond either way. I would hope common sense that she doesn't think it's okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    was the revealed, yes or no? yes. it doesn't matter when. I bet these happen more than you think.

    I don't know whether AOC is okay with it, she didn't respond either way. I would hope common sense that she doesn't think it's okay.
    Was the person revealed as a plant while she was talking with AOC? No. She wasn't revealed as a plant until days later.

    If you don't know whether AOC is OK with it or not, I'm sure there are plenty of people, including Trump, who you do not know are OK with eating babies since I have never heard them comment on the matter.

    Is that a reasonable thing to assume? That you don't know if someone is anti-eating babies unless they specifically say they are against that?

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    I think AOC is an idiot but I can’t see how else to handle this situation whether it was a plant, someone playing a prank, or someone serious, she handled it professionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post


    if Trump is expected to respond here, or when disavow/denounce racists like David Duke (which he has done), then AOC should be expected to do the same, especially when she alone is someone to expect Trump to do it.
    Trump has a history of doing racist things, charged with discriminating against blacks seeking residency in his apartment by Nixon, twice, and also having three white nationalists in his administration, so questioning him where he stands with David Duke isn't out of the ballpark.

    Has AOC every had a history of even abusing babies or hire people who advocate eating babies? Has she every done anything that might suggest she had a tendency to do this?

    You honestly expect us to respect your posting with this twisted logic you rant?

    When first ask about David Dukes or the KKK, he acted like he didn't know about Dukes or the KKK. Psst, his father was arrested attending a KKK rally in NYC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Was the person revealed as a plant while she was talking with AOC? No. She wasn't revealed as a plant until days later.

    If you don't know whether AOC is OK with it or not, I'm sure there are plenty of people, including Trump, who you do not know are OK with eating babies since I have never heard them comment on the matter.

    Is that a reasonable thing to assume? That you don't know if someone is anti-eating babies unless they specifically say they are against that?
    this is laughably weak. show me one incident where someone in front of Trump said something about eating babies.

    why should AOC expect Trump to say something immediately at his rally that she doesn't like, but it's okay for her to not do the same thing.







    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Trump has a history of doing racist things, charged with discriminating against blacks seeking residency in his apartment by Nixon, twice, and also having three white nationalists in his administration, so questioning him where he stands with David Duke isn't out of the ballpark.

    Has AOC every had a history of even abusing babies or hire people who advocate eating babies? Has she every done anything that might suggest she had a tendency to do this?

    You honestly expect us to respect your posting with this twisted logic you rant?

    When first ask about David Dukes or the KKK, he acted like he didn't know about Dukes or the KKK. Psst, his father was arrested attending a KKK rally in NYC.
    I don't care about Trump's father. he should be irrelevant and not used in connection.

    Trump also has a history of things that contradict this racist allegation.

    you are wrong about when Trump was FIRST asked about David Duke. he has been questioned about David Duke before this on CNN when he said he didn't know David Duke.

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/28/polit...sts/index.html

    Donald Trump stumbles on David Duke, KKK

    Updated 10:18 AM ET, Mon February 29, 2016
    Donald Trump is trying to clean up a racially charged controversy Monday after he refused to disavow former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke over the weekend.

    When asked about his comments on CNN's "State of the Union," Trump blamed a "bad earpiece."

    "I was sitting in a house in Florida, with a bad earpiece," the brash billionaire told NBC's "Today" show. "I could hardly hear what he's saying. I hear various groups. I don't mind disavowing anyone. I disavowed Duke the day before at a major conference."
    Trump should not have said that he didn't know David Duke, but he did blame a bad earpiece. this would make sense since he knew about David Duke in multiple situations before.




    this above from CNN, February 29, that aired February 28.

    this from Trump February 27..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...5f6_video.html
    Trump 'disavows' former KKK leader's support
    February 27, 2016
    After being endorsed by Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.), Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Friday, Feb. 26, that he disavowed former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke's support.



    but wait there is more..

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...es-trump-shirt

    Trump stares down protester wearing 'KKK endorses Trump' shirt

    By Jesse Byrnes - 02/26/16 08:05 PM EST
    Donald Trump paused a campaign rally Friday night in Oklahoma to stare down a protester who showed up wearing a white T-shirt stating in dark letters, "KKK endorses Trump."

    Trump walked to the edge of the podium, staring toward the man for several moments as law enforcement officials moved to escort him away from the area.

    Earlier in the day on Friday, Trump brushed off the backing of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, who suggested it'd be against Americans' "heritage" to not vote for Trump.

    "I didn't even know he endorsed me," Trump said of Duke's support while unveiling an endorsement from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at a press conference earlier in the day.

    "David Duke endorsed me? OK, alright. I disavow, OK?"
    Trump said, as he attempted to move on to another question.




    but wait there is more..

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/...rsement-121784

    Trump: I don't want David Duke's endorsement

    08/26/2015
    “I don’t need his endorsement; I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement.”
    Asked whether he would repudiate the endorsement, Trump said “Sure, I would if that would make you feel better.”




    this also about David Duke after the CNN piece..

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/polit...kkk/index.html

    Trump denounces David Duke, KKK
    Updated 10:10 AM ET, Thu March 3, 2016
    Donald Trump issued a crystal clear disavowal Thursday of former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke after stumbling last weekend over a question about the hate group leader on CNN.
    "David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
    "I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now."
    unfortunately this was tacked on to the AOC thread, but this is where I was able to address this.

    what do you say WES445? valade16?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    I think AOC is an idiot but I can’t see how else to handle this situation whether it was a plant, someone playing a prank, or someone serious, she handled it professionally.
    Yeah, AOC says and does a lot of naïve and stupid things, but this was not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    AOC says and does a lot of naïve and stupid things,
    where are your posts when she says stupid things (plural, your word) ?

    when someone whether it's me or someone else posts something stupid that you by this clearly agree with, it should be simple for you to post and agree.


    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    but this was not one of them.
    I would have liked to see AOC comment something like while she thinks climate change is a serious problem (her opinion) that it's dangerous for anyone to say that things have gotten to the point to eat people.

    eating babies as an option is an awful stretch, but it's not like something like this has not been mentioned. I did bring up in the climate change thread the idea of eating human flesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    climate change has been brought up in different threads lately. I don't remember which threads, but here is this thread for this news. apparently a way to fight climate change is cannibalism.

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/scient...rce=NYPTwitter

    Scientist suggests eating human flesh to fight climate change
    A Swedish scientist speaking at Stockholm summit last week offered an unusual possible tactic in combating global climate change: eating human flesh.

    Stockholm School of Economics professor and researcher Magnus Soderlund reportedly said he believes eating human meat, derived from dead bodies, might be able to help save the human race if only a world society were to “awaken the idea.”

    Soderlund’s argument for human cannibalism was front and center during a panel talk called “Can You Imagine Eating Human Flesh?” at the Gastro Summit, reports the Epoch Times. “Conservative” taboos against cannibalism, he said, can change over time if people simply tried eating human flesh.
    this is your first reply..

    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Eating people impacts climate change in that if we were eating humans instead of livestock, we wouldn't have to spend so many resources raising the livestock.

    It is a dumb idea.
    it is a dumb/bad idea to eat human flesh. it is also a dumb/bad idea to eat babies, and it should be okay to say that, including from AOC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    where are your posts when she says stupid things (plural, your word) ?

    when someone whether it's me or someone else posts something stupid that you by this clearly agree with, it should be simple for you to post and agree.

    I would have liked to see AOC comment something like while she thinks climate change is a serious problem (her opinion) that it's dangerous for anyone to say that things have gotten to the point to eat people.

    eating babies as an option is an awful stretch, but it's not like something like this has not been mentioned. I did bring up in the climate change thread the idea of eating human flesh.

    this is your first reply..

    it is a dumb/bad idea to eat human flesh. it is also a dumb/bad idea to eat babies, and it should be okay to say that, including from AOC.
    I do post and say when things people say are stupid. You may be referring to the last time AOC said something stupid and why I didn't say it was stupid, that is because someone literally compared her to Genocide and I thought that was a bigger issue (which you did not because you did not comment on it until called out).

    I don't think she was wrong for not calling a potentially mentally ill person's opinion dangerous in a public place. Who knows what the mentally ill person would have done? You are the one always saying our gun violence is a mental illness problem. Well if they are that violent as you claim, I would not want to antagonize them in person.

    You can't say they are dangerous and then say she was wrong for not putting herself in danger by confronting one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    I do post and say when things people say are stupid. You may be referring to the last time AOC said something stupid and why I didn't say it was stupid, that is because someone literally compared her to Genocide and I thought that was a bigger issue (which you did not because you did not comment on it until called out).

    I don't think she was wrong for not calling a potentially mentally ill person's opinion dangerous in a public place. Who knows what the mentally ill person would have done? You are the one always saying our gun violence is a mental illness problem. Well if they are that violent as you claim, I would not want to antagonize them in person.

    You can't say they are dangerous and then say she was wrong for not putting herself in danger by confronting one.
    there have been many incidents where I have posted something stupid that AOC said, that literally nobody including yourself commented. I have even posted them again, including specifically mentioning you.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I didn't say nobody is talking about her. I said, " how many replies were there to 3 different Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez topics that I posted? ZERO."


    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is an economic illiterate — and that’s a danger to America
    Maybe we shouldn’t be eating a hamburger for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
    "Until you do it, I'm the boss."

    not one person replied to any of these 3 topics.
    that doesn't even include this other post on how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doesn't understand the difference between the Berlin wall and a border wall for security, that nobody wanted to comment on.

    AOC doesn't understand. I'm not surprised.

    AOC actually believes that a wall is monument to white supremacy. is she aware that there is already a wall in places? like other Democrats and Liberal media they keep talking about this is about immigration in general. it's not. the issue is illegal vs legal. wanting a physical barrier does nothing against legal immigration.


    feel free to pick one or all if you want valade16.
    you didn't even reply to that post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    there have been many incidents where I have posted something stupid that AOC said, that literally nobody including yourself commented. I have even posted them again, including specifically mentioning you.

    you didn't even reply to that post.
    Maybe I didn't find that specific thing she said stupid?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Maybe I didn't find that specific thing she said stupid?...
    okay so here is your opportunity. since you said "AOC says and does a lot of naïve and stupid things" what stupid things (plural) do you think she has said/did.


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