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  1. #2266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekial View Post
    I disagree, I thought she did really well.
    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekial View Post
    I disagree, I thought she did really well.
    Meadows found Waldo. That has to count for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlakeyFool View Post
    Oh boy I'm done replying. Time to get out of the rabbit hole

    this is the Politics section, not the President section.
    how many replies are there on a daily basis related to Trump? many.
    how many replies were there to 3 different Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez topics that I posted? ZERO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlakeyFool View Post
    I thought ro khanna did the best
    I'm not sure I've ever power ranked the performances of congressmen in congressional hearings before, but Khanna was just as good. Yes. Definitely the two standouts for me.

    They kept it simple by asking clear questions resulting in consequential answers that can be acted upon in the future. They opened up avenues for further legitimate inquiry. Their questioning played off of each other's well.

    I'm a big fan of Pressley and Tlaib, as well as Cummings for that matter. Ending something like that hearing with those 5 people is so heartening to me. But those three went with more of a symbolic route. Cummings especially leaning into "we're better than this" stuff (we aren't). Not that it's wrong, and I think sometimes those passionate pleas or preaching are effective. I just think that tangibly we'll benefit much more from AOC and Khanna's questioning. Ro deserves props so props to you for mentioning Ro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    this is the Politics section, not the President section.
    how many replies are there on a daily basis related to Trump? many.
    how many replies were there to 3 different Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez topics that I posted? ZERO.
    The AOC thread is now at 152 pages. Somebody seems to be talking about her...

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    I did not watch (or read) one single bit of the hearings, so Iíll have to take your word for it that Ocasio-Cortez acquitted herself well, and, as I understand it, especially in contrast to the Republicans.

    I wonder: do those here who are forcefully anti-AOC folks agree?

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    She spoke for only a couple of minutes. Not a hassle to read or listen to.

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Thank you, Mr. Chair.

    "Mr. Cohen, I would like to quickly pick up on some previous lines of questioning before getting into my own. So I may go a little quickly to get it all in five minutes. First, my colleague from Vermont had you asked several questions about AMI, the parent company of the National Enquirer. And in that you mentioned a treasure trove -- a treasure trove of documents in David Pecker's office relating the information assembled from all of these 'catch and kill' operations against people who potentially had damaging information on the president.

    "You also mentioned that the president was very concerned about the whereabouts of these documents and who possessed them. Does that treasure trove of documents still exist?"

    Cohen: "I don't know. I had asked David Pecker for them."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "So you would say the person who knows the whereabouts of these documents would be David Pecker."

    Cohen: "David Pecker, Barry Levine, or Dylan Howard." (Editorís note: Pecker is chairman of AMI; Levine is the National Enquirerís former executive editor; Howard is AMIís vice president.)

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Okay. Thank you. Secondly, I want to ask a little bit about your conversation with my colleague from Missouri about asset inflation. To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company?"

    Cohen: "Yes."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Who else knows that the president did this?"

    Cohen: "Allen Weisselberg, Ron Lieberman, and Matthew Calamari." (Editorís note: Weisselberg is the Trump Organizationís CFO, Lieberman and Calamari are executives at the Trump Organization.)

    Ocasio-Cortez: "And where would the committee find more information on this? Do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them?"

    Cohen: "Yes. And you would find it at the Trump Org."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Thank you very much. The last thing here. The Trump Golf organization currently has a golf course in my home borough of the Bronx, Trump Links. I drive past it every day going between the Bronx and Queens. In fact, The Washington Post reported on the Trump Links Bronx course in an article entitled 'Taxpayers Built this New York Golf Course and Trump Reaps the Rewards.'

    "That article is where many New Yorkers and people in the country learned that taxpayers spent $127 million to build Trump Links in a 'generous deal allowing President Trump to keep almost every dollar that flows in on a golf course built with public funds.'

    "And this doesn't seem to be the only time the president has benefited at the expense of the public. Mr. Cohen, I want to ask you about your assertion that the president may improperly devalued his assets to avoid paying taxes. According to an August 24th -- August 21st 2016 report by The Washington Post: 'While the president claimed in financial disclosure forms that Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida, was worth more than 50 million, he had reported otherwise to local tax authorities that the course was worth 'no more than 5 million'.' Mr. Cohen, do you know whether this specific report is accurate?"

    Cohen: "It is identical to what he did at Trump National Golf Club at Briarcliff Manor."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Do you know -- to your knowledge, was the president interested in reducing his local real estate bills, tax bills?"

    Cohen: "Yes."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "And how do you do that?"

    Cohen: "What you do is you deflate the value of the asset and then you put in a request to the tax department for a deduction."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Thank you. Now on October 2018, the New York Times revealed that 'President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents.' It further stated for Mr. Trump: 'He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents' real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing his tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings.' Mr. Cohen, do you know whether that specific report is accurate?"

    Cohen: "I don't. I wasn't there in the 1990s."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Who would know the answer to those questions?"

    Cohen: "Allen Weisselberg."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "And would it help for the committee to obtain federal and state tax returns from the president and his company to address that discrepancy?"

    Cohen: "I believe so."

    Ocasio-Cortez: "Thank you very much. I yield the rest of my time to the chair"
    No grandstanding. No preaching. Just asking pointed questions to obtain new information and leads. Getting names. There's literally nothing to criticize from any non-partisan angle. How more effectively could she have used those 5 minutes? I dont know....
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    Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Her questioning yesterday was the best of the day. Simple and concise questions that clearly laid out a next step in this process. Who needs to be brought in to verify these claims. On a day full of theatrics and hysterical behavior from many of her peers, she nailed it. One of the only people that you'd think had any history in law if you didn't know any better. She was more professional than every single Republican.

    I tried to not let myself get carried away at first. I was thrilled with all these young progressives winning but it's really hard to get excited when you know they're not just battling one party, but also many within theirs. But they're doing great and I'm feeling something. Is this optimism!?! Is this what that feels like?!?!

    I'm all in on AOC. She's not going away. I'd say it's more likely that she's president some day than she's out of office anytime soon.
    I said it before, I love that lady. She says some **** that itís really far left at times and like all politicians says some **** that may not be right, but she is smart as any of them and as a rookie she really is doing something great.

    I dunno if she is a lifer in politics, she will have so much **** open up for her that she will have plenty of choices, as she gets older I dunno if she will still have that drive she has now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter_White View Post
    Damn there's some thirsty men in this thread.
    I'd love to see a AOC /Ivanka wrestling match
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    She spoke for only a couple of minutes. Not a hassle to read or listen to.



    No grandstanding. No preaching. Just asking pointed questions to obtain new information and leads. Getting names. There's literally nothing to criticize from any non-partisan angle. How more effectively could she have used those 5 minutes? I dont know....
    Thatís the type of questioning/approach I like to see from a politician on any subject. Find out whatís going on and how get answers. Itís rare in politics, especially in a time where people use memes and one line tweets to form their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    I'd love to see a AOC /Ivanka wrestling match
    If ever there was a time to bring back that TV show Celebrity Boxing with the clay animation, this would be it lol

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    The day AOC endorses Sanders is going to be an all time Internet Day. She's the biggest rock star in the party and adored largely by the same demographic that despises Sanders (did you know he's not a Democrat!?!?! ). It's gonna be wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    If ever there was a time to bring back that TV show Celebrity Boxing with the clay animation, this would be it lol
    Celebrity Deathmatch. Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    I'd love to see a AOC /Ivanka wrestling match
    Mud or jello?

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