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  1. #1996
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin13697 View Post
    An monopolist attempting to create a monopoly. They've only been gigantic over the last couple years.

    Feel free to chase Amazon controversies, I don't have all night.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon...t_availability

    America’s Monopolies Are Holding Back the Economy
    "Large corporations are concentrating control over markets and using their power to raise prices, limit choices for consumers, lower wages for workers, and hold back competition from startups and small businesses. It’s no wonder Americans feel the deck is stacked for those at the top." Hilary Clinton 2015
    https://qz.com/529303/hillary-clinto...rs-out-to-dry/


    This was actually the message Clinton was running on before Sanders came along. It was based on a substantial and growing body of research that confirms that consolidation is at the root of many of America’s most pressing economic and political problems.
    The deal NY entered into with Amazon has nothing to do with monopoly or monopolistic behavior.

    The Hillary piece isn't about Amazon either. Amazon sells goods for tens of thousands of vendors they are not controlling prices. There are a lot of small businesses running these days using Amazon for fulfillment.

    Google is much closer to a monopoly than Amazon is.

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    Amazon has actually gained market share because they have advertised competitors prices even when they were lower. Amazon has gained huge market share by using membership to provide fast delivery and guaranteed purchase protection EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT THE COMPANY SELLING THE PRODUCT. They have a lot of competitors, but they are winning in the margins because they are doing it better, not for less money, and not by controlling markets.

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    is it offensive to point out Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's stupidity?
    is that why no one wants to comment.

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    Ocasio-Cortez Doesn't Understand Difference Between Berlin Wall, Border Wall


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    Walmart.com announced a 43% growth in online sales in the last quarter. Clearly Amazon doesn't own the online market.

    I have no issue with people not wanting the government to give money to corporations, but the reality is that it is possible for the people to win big even when paying a bonus to get a company to come to an area. Sometimes the people lose (almost always when it comes to sports teams), but quite often the people win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    Yup. You are right. It's why they were operating at a loss and were able to rollover their losses to now. People saying Amazon doesn't pay income taxes are just being misled. They are able to take advantage of deductions that were designed to help businesses grow just like people are allowed a standard or itemized deduction to help offset costs.
    right. This whole thing from Cortez seems like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGn55BRyDSk

    I just think this was a stupid push on her part, and cost the city of NY a lot of jobs, and all because Amazon is a big, bad, corporation.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Walmart.com announced a 43% growth in online sales in the last quarter. Clearly Amazon doesn't own the online market.

    I have no issue with people not wanting the government to give money to corporations, but the reality is that it is possible for the people to win big even when paying a bonus to get a company to come to an area. Sometimes the people lose (almost always when it comes to sports teams), but quite often the people win.
    People hate on Amazon because they perfected the art of online shopping before anyone else did. That's innovation - not a monopoly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    People hate on Amazon because they perfected the art of online shopping before anyone else did. That's innovation - not a monopoly.
    Nah.

    I do not “hate” Amazon (they are just doing business the good old American way), but by the same token I will not shop Amazon — and I urge others not to as well — because I believe that their general labor practices are negligent.

    That’s not hate; that’s good, old American pushback.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.77860cd13b5e

    Yes, they did raise their minimum wage to $15 (thank you Bernie Sanders), but even that is a bit suspect, as reported here:

    https://www.wired.com/story/why-amaz...-minimum-wage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Nah.

    I do not “hate” Amazon (they are just doing business the good old American way), but by the same token I will not shop Amazon — and I urge others not to as well — because I believe that their general labor practices are negligent.

    That’s not hate; that’s good, old American pushback.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.77860cd13b5e

    Yes, they did raise their minimum wage to $15 (thank you Bernie Sanders), but even that is a bit suspect, as reported here:

    https://www.wired.com/story/why-amaz...-minimum-wage/
    Amazon raising their minimum pay actually screws their competitors more than Amazon. Amazon can afford it no problem, their competitors can't afford it as easily. Calling it a political victory is just politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Amazon raising their minimum pay actually screws their competitors more than Amazon. Amazon can afford it no problem, their competitors can't afford it as easily. Calling it a political victory is just politics.
    If competitors can’t afford to pay workers $15 an hr in this day and age, they have a faulty business model and shouldn’t be in business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    If competitors can’t afford to pay workers $15 an hr in this day and age, they have a faulty business model and shouldn’t be in business.
    I guess a lot of businesses have faulty business models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I guess a lot of businesses have faulty business models.
    Per pew research:

    Adjusted for inflation, the federal minimum wage peaked in 1968 at $8.68 (in 2016 dollars). Since it was last raised in 2009, to the current $7.25 per hour, the federal minimum has lost about 9.6% of its purchasing power to inflation. Back in 2015, The Economist estimated that, given how rich the U.S. is and the pattern among other advanced economies in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, “one would expect America … to pay a minimum wage around $12 an hour.”

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...-minimum-wage/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I guess a lot of businesses have faulty business models.
    So, they can go under. What’s the problem with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    Per pew research:

    Adjusted for inflation, the federal minimum wage peaked in 1968 at $8.68 (in 2016 dollars). Since it was last raised in 2009, to the current $7.25 per hour, the federal minimum has lost about 9.6% of its purchasing power to inflation. Back in 2015, The Economist estimated that, given how rich the U.S. is and the pattern among other advanced economies in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, “one would expect America … to pay a minimum wage around $12 an hour.”

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...-minimum-wage/
    They can afford it. But that's not the only thing they are paying. You should know there are taxes and other costs that go into hiring people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    That's your opinion.
    No it’s a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    They can afford it. But that's not the only thing they are paying. You should know there are taxes and other costs that go into hiring people.
    That, and the fact that $15/hour in New York, New York is equivalent to $32/hour in Huntsville, AL.
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