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  1. #5101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Stupid point. But consistent with you.
    Aren’t we all the same? Why treat these people differently?

    Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    OK. So do we treat women differently because they are women??? Moms because they are moms???

    I'm just wondering if the AOC incident would have been treated any differently if it was a man being unduly insulted. Why the need to make such a point about the Moms marching in Portland being moms at all??

    Just curious.
    WTF don’t you get? Are you really that dense?

    Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is asking (partly for herself and partly on behalf of women) to be treated with respect; not accosted; not called a ***** — or a kid — by anyone, much less her colleague in public; not battered or demeaned.

    If the status quo is that men want to be treated with disrespect, fine. Then, yes, she’s aking to be treated differently.

    But if men also want to be treated with respect, then, no, she does not want to be treated differently.

    This is kindergarten stuff. Even the likes of you should know better.

    By the way, this was not what my post was about. My post was that she called your kind out by saying basically that your position of power in this society (read in this case, male — but it could also be white, wealthy, smug) does not give you the right to “accost” her and her kind.

    That might be a little more complex than kindergarten stuff, but there it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    WTF don’t you get? Are you really that dense?

    Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is asking (partly for herself and partly on behalf of women) to be treated with respect; not accosted; not called a ***** — or a kid — by anyone, much less her colleague in public; not battered or demeaned.

    If the status quo is that men want to be treated with disrespect, fine. Then, yes, she’s aking to be treated differently.

    But if men also want to be treated with respect, then, no, she does not want to be treated differently.

    This is kindergarten stuff. Even the likes of you should know better.

    By the way, this was not what my post was about. My post was that she called your kind out by saying basically that your position of power in this society (read in this case, male — but it could also be white, wealthy, smug) does not give you the right to “accost” her and her kind.

    That might be a little more complex than kindergarten stuff, but there it is.
    WTF don't you get??? (I put the WTF in there against my better judgement. I'm guessing that means something to you.)

    I get and agree with everything she said in her speech. The point I brought up was would this have been treated any different if Yoho would have made the same comments to a male congressional (or "colleague" for you). I don't think it would have been given the same "shocking" coverage if he had said it to a male. Hence reference to a double standard that even a kindergartner should be able to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Aren’t we all the same? Why treat these people differently?

    Just curious.
    Like I say to my kids from time to time………if it has to be explained to you, it just can't be explained.

    Good lucj in getting thru your day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    WTF don't you get??? (I put the WTF in there against my better judgement. I'm guessing that means something to you.)

    I get and agree with everything she said in her speech.
    No, you do not. Look at your response #5090 to my post #5089.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    W The point I brought up was would this have been treated any different if Yoho would have made the same comments to a male congressional (or "colleague" for you). I don't think it would have been given the same "shocking" coverage if he had said it to a male.

    Hence reference to a double standard that even a kindergartner should be able to understand.
    A point you brought up late in this dialogue and, frankly, one that is totally irrelevant because that is not what Yoho did.

    So, in comparing this event (which actually happened) to your hypothetical (which did not), the only double standard is the one you conjured up in your own mind — such as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    WTF don't you get??? (I put the WTF in there against my better judgement. I'm guessing that means something to you.)

    I get and agree with everything she said in her speech. The point I brought up was would this have been treated any different if Yoho would have made the same comments to a male congressional (or "colleague" for you). I don't think it would have been given the same "shocking" coverage if he had said it to a male. Hence reference to a double standard that even a kindergartner should be able to understand.
    For it to have risen to the same level of disrespect, it likely would need to include similarly disrespectful language (even tho language wasn't the only problem here, without it THIS episode wouldn't have gotten the same coverage). So yeah, if this were a rep named Alexander Cortez and Yoho called him a f'in *** hole, yeah it just might have gotten similar coverage...but since this also involved a group fighting to reach equality, him saying that to a male likely gets a bit less.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    No, you do not. Look at your response #5090 to my post #5089.



    A point you brought up late in this dialogue and, frankly, one that is totally irrelevant because that is not what Yoho did.

    So, in comparing this event (which actually happened) to your hypothetical (which did not), the only double standard is the one you conjured up in your own mind — such as it is.
    Your Post 5089
    Wait, when you represent the poor minority population who live in your district, you are nevertheless still obligated to play to the rich white man’s game? Screw that. Bring on the Green New Deal!

    Add to it, what she said about the general attitude of men in this country towards women was spot on.

    My Response in poast 5090

    What, exactly, is the general attitude of men in this country towards women.

    So I clearly queationes a phrase you used…and the thread developed (or not from that).

    I also went on to say that the AOC speech was pretty good.

    Are you sure moving to main is a good idea??? They're a pretty down to earth type of people up there and you don't seem like a fit. Well maybe in those few blocks in Camden that make up the art gallery district. Other than that, i don't know. You might have been happier in the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    For it to have risen to the same level of disrespect, it likely would need to include similarly disrespectful language (even tho language wasn't the only problem here, without it THIS episode wouldn't have gotten the same coverage). So yeah, if this were a rep named Alexander Cortez and Yoho called him a f'in *** hole, yeah it just might have gotten similar coverage...but since this also involved a group fighting to reach equality, him saying that to a male likely gets a bit less.
    Bold 1…I doubt it

    Bold 2…Women are a group fighting to get equality??? In many cases, I'd like to have equality with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Your Post 5089
    Wait, when you represent the poor minority population who live in your district, you are nevertheless still obligated to play to the rich white man’s game? Screw that. Bring on the Green New Deal!

    Add to it, what she said about the general attitude of men in this country towards women was spot on.

    My Response in poast 5090

    What, exactly, is the general attitude of men in this country towards women.

    So I clearly queationes a phrase you used…and the thread developed (or not from that)..
    Obviously you did not know what she said or you chose to ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Obviously you did not know what she said or you chose to ignore it.
    zzzzzzzzzzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Bold 1…I doubt it

    Bold 2…Women are a group fighting to get equality??? In many cases, I'd like to have equality with them.
    In what? In the high odds of being raped, spouse abuse? Pass over for jobs? How about arseholes who feel they can say anything they want to you? Sexual harras you even if they are fat, deplorable specimens of humanity? What? What do they experience that you wish to share?
    WE STILL KNOW WHERE THE PITCHFORKS ARE:Beau of the Fifth Column, you tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    In many cases, I'd like to have equality with them.
    Then ur not a man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    zzzzzzzzzzzz
    Exactly what I expect from you — stick your head in the sand without any recognition that you are at fault because you just can’t comprehend what you read.

    Pathetic.

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    Did you expect something different?
    WE STILL KNOW WHERE THE PITCHFORKS ARE:Beau of the Fifth Column, you tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Exactly what I expect from you — stick your head in the sand without any recognition that you are at fault because you just can’t comprehend what you read.

    Pathetic.
    Why not just answer his question instead of insulting him and blaming him for it?

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