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  1. #1
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    Where will Lebron's time be remembered more if he leaves Cleveland: Heat or Cavs?

    Case for Miami: Won that first "elusive title he so desperately coveted". Arguably some of the best basketball displayed by Lebron in his career. Hopped on board with a winning franchise with a winning legend in Riley and learned how to win titles. Got swept with Cleveland in the Finals twice whereas he always stood a fighting chance with the Heat (with the exception of '14 Spurs). Also has 2 titles in Miami as opposed to 1 in Cleveland.

    Case for Cleveland: Obviously the whole body of work in Cleveland, being the first pick after being labeled "The Chosen One" and getting picked by his hometown team. Beating the 73 win Warriors after being down 3-1 also doesn't hurt their case.

    Who's team do you think Lebron will be remembered more for assuming he's leaving the Cavs again in Free Agency? Also this isn't about Lebron's Free Agency, don't move this to the James megathread to get buried please. Thank you.

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    Personally, I think the time with the Cavs will be most remembered from a fan standpoint. Mainly because it was Lebron, the Ohio born star, brought the Cavaliers their FIRST ever title,leading the team back from 3-1 against a team that would have arguably been considered the best of all time if they had won.

    He did great things with the Heat too, but:

    1. Miami had already won a title with Wade before Lebron, who had a series that compared to Jordan.

    2. Lebron was the best player on that team (especially after 2011), but some people still looked at Wade as the intangible leader of that team.

    3. People will still look at the title appearances/wins as manufactured by joining a few all-stars. He did the same thing when he went back to Cleveland (as in wanted a few stars), but this move was taken much more negatively, while the move back was taken more positively. Though I guess for your question this is moot, because both are pretty much remembered, but one fits the happy ending narrative that the media loves to throw around.

    Though from a player/FO perspective, I think his Heat time would be remembered. The idea that a star as good as him leaving a team wasn't common at all (unless franchises **** up, like Orlando with Shaq), and to be able to sign with another team with two all-stars in their prime? You see now that a lot of players are looking to team up with another star or two, where before many didn't mind being the main/only guy. In addition, Front Offices are trying to get complete assurance that a player won't leave once their contract expires (exception: Durant)... If they aren't getting that commitment/assurance, they're not afraid to deal them out before hand. Since Lebron's move, we've seen Howard, George, Love, Carmelo, Deron Williams (when he was good), and others dealt before their contract runs out. Hell, this year we might see Kawhi and Irving traded away because they won't fully commit. Thanks to Lebron's move, teams are much more careful when dealing with their star players; they aren't complacent and are either trying to assure that they'll stay or will try to maximize assets returned.
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    I think the Miami championship over the Spurs and the title over Golden State are both going to be extremely memorable historically. The Allen shot and the 3-1 climb make them staples in history. Not sure he will be remembered in one spot more than the other.

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    Given how some nba players are ******** on kd of late, its definitely cleveland

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    It's Cleveland.

    11 seasons in Cleveland vs. 4 in Miami. He's from Cleveland (or close enough) and was drafted by Cleveland. He brought them their first championship. The majority of his career will (likely) be played there. He left and then returned.

    Sure, he won two titles in Miami, but he left his hometown to join with a superstar who had already won in Miami. And at that time, the Big 3 were probably the first true big 3 of this generation. There's just a larger and more important body of work in Cleveland.

    But, on top of all of that, I think the days of one or even two teams are over. People hop around more than ever so people will look at the whole body of their career.

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    Cleveland to me.

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    Both. It all fades into obscurity in time. Already the accomplishments of players of the 70s are largely unknown other than in a vague fashion. LeBron will be remembered as being one of the best all time and for playing for Cleveland and Miami.

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    11 vs 4

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    Cavs of last year were championship caliber, they beat many actual champs imo. Just kd cheated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Cavs of last year were championship caliber, they beat many actual champs imo. Just kd cheated
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Cavs of last year were championship caliber, they beat many actual champs imo. Just kd cheated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal827 View Post
    Personally, I think the time with the Cavs will be most remembered from a fan standpoint. Mainly because it was Lebron, the Ohio born star, brought the Cavaliers their FIRST ever title,leading the team back from 3-1 against a team that would have arguably been considered the best of all time if they had won.

    He did great things with the Heat too, but:

    1. Miami had already won a title with Wade before Lebron, who had a series that compared to Jordan.

    2. Lebron was the best player on that team (especially after 2011), but some people still looked at Wade as the intangible leader of that team.

    3. People will still look at the title appearances/wins as manufactured by joining a few all-stars. He did the same thing when he went back to Cleveland (as in wanted a few stars), but this move was taken much more negatively, while the move back was taken more positively. Though I guess for your question this is moot, because both are pretty much remembered, but one fits the happy ending narrative that the media loves to throw around.

    Though from a player/FO perspective, I think his Heat time would be remembered. The idea that a star as good as him leaving a team wasn't common at all (unless franchises **** up, like Orlando with Shaq), and to be able to sign with another team with two all-stars in their prime? You see now that a lot of players are looking to team up with another star or two, where before many didn't mind being the main/only guy. In addition, Front Offices are trying to get complete assurance that a player won't leave once their contract expires (exception: Durant)... If they aren't getting that commitment/assurance, they're not afraid to deal them out before hand. Since Lebron's move, we've seen Howard, George, Love, Carmelo, Deron Williams (when he was good), and others dealt before their contract runs out. Hell, this year we might see Kawhi and Irving traded away because they won't fully commit. Thanks to Lebron's move, teams are much more careful when dealing with their star players; they aren't complacent and are either trying to assure that they'll stay or will try to maximize assets returned.
    Some people might look at Wade as the leader, but those people are wrong. Agree with you that there are those idiots that ignore the obvious, because LBJ was the #1 on that team and everyone knew it, especially after the first season. It wasn't 1a and 1b either. That was Lebrons team, but DWade's city.

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    Heat because it was the best and most marketed teams he had. They had, by far, the most talent of any team in the NBA all 4 years he was there. Cavs was a mess that went from bad (firing your future HOF coach) to worse (pissing off your most talented teammate and making him leave town). That a title was sandwiched in there is more like NBA ephemera, like Wade's 2006 title.

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