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    Eh. At 10 we have the chance to bring in and work on a major issue with a longer athletic wing that can be a part on the bench as a 6th man.

    Rozier is not that. Morris is a tweener non-floor spreading forward. And the talent at 27 (we also have 23) isn’t really going to fit with our need.

    Between not really helping needs and adding to our cap on a year we have the space for a max contract it would be something we could easily pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDish87 View Post
    adding Morris and Rozier kills off a chance at a max FA and then forced overpay for Rozier or lose him and basically end up with nothing. We have Fultz so we really dont have use for Rozier. We had 3 key vets contribute to last season and then Amir Johnson, we dont exactly need to 10 vets. We kept a very nice balance. and they produced.
    Hate to break it but LeBrons going to LALA Land. I'm sure PG13 will follow. What player are you giving a max this offseason.

    And Redick, Ily and Beli are all Free Agents. I imagine those are the 3 key vets your talking about. They should be replaced or brought back...Either way, you're biting into that cap space to retain them. Outside of Redick - Morris and Rozier are better than the latter 2.

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    Rozier and Morris maybe better overall players but they dont offer the same fit or shooting that was so crucial to this season. No one knows where James is going but i dont care, i never wanted him. PG3 is still more likely to stay in OKC but the season just ended and no one has a clue right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakmont_4 View Post
    Hate to break it but LeBrons going to LALA Land. I'm sure PG13 will follow. What player are you giving a max this offseason.
    I wouldn’t bank on that so hard that we take away our chance of signing him before FA opens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    I wouldn’t bank on that so hard that we take away our chance of signing him before FA opens.
    You'd be taking on $8M in salaries in my proposed trade. Nothing that would take away the chance for a MAX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakmont_4 View Post
    You'd be taking on $8M in salaries in my proposed trade. Nothing that would take away the chance for a MAX.
    Yes it would because to create space for LeBron we have to dump the $8.7 owed to Jerry’s Bayless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Yes it would because to create space for LeBron we have to dump the $8.7 owed to Jerry’s Bayless.
    By my calculations this roster fits in the cap

    PG Simmons/Rozier/Fultz/McConnell

    Wings PG13/Covington/Morris

    Bigs Embiid/Saric/Holmes

    +MLE and vet minimum contracts to fill the holes

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    But it doesn’t. Your calculations are wrong because you likely left out holds, and you forgot about a few players too in TLC, Korkmaz, Anderson. That’s going to need to be taken into account too.
    Last edited by warfelg; 06-12-2018 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    But it doesn’t.
    But actually, it does. Because... Math

    1 30,300,000 - George
    2 25,250,000 - Embiid
    3 10,464,092 -Covington
    4 8,339,880 - Fultz
    5 6,434,520 - Simmons
    6 5,375,000 - Morris
    7 3,050,390 - Rozier
    8 2,526,840 - Saric
    9 1,600,520 - McConnell
    10 1,600,520 - Holmes
    11 831,927
    12 831,927

    Totals $96,605,616 on a $101M cap

    Leaving $4,394,384 in cap space + MLE

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    If the Celtics were to trade up, I think it's gonna be into the top 5 to get Bambo or Jackson. Hell, Donic would be fun if he falls.

    In that case I wonder if they would be able to deal Rozier, their pick this year, and the Kings pick next year.

    Maybe they'd need to add more. And I might be tempted to take Memphis's pick next year instead of the pick this year. In this situation, it allows a team to go full tank-mode. So my gut would tell me the Magic would be a fit- if this is even fair. Which I have no idea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakmont_4 View Post
    But actually, it does. Because... Math

    130,300,000 - George
    225,250,000 - Embiid
    310,464,092 -Covington
    48,339,880 - Fultz
    56,434,520 - Simmons
    65,375,000 - Morris
    73,050,390 - Rozier
    82,526,840 - Saric
    91,600,520 - McConnell
    101,600,520 - Holmes
    11831,927
    12831,927

    Totals $96,605,616 on a $101M cap

    Leaving $4,394,384 in cap space + MLE
    Edit: I see there should be spaces there. You still left off a bunch of guys though in Anderson ($2,516,048); TLC ($1,446,360); Korkmaz ($1,740,000)

    That also means that we would have to renounce rights to Redick, Johnson, Belinelli, Ilyasova.

    Right now with total Taxable Salaries were at $70,494,696. Swapping out Bayless for Rozier/Morris on the salary table does little to change that.

    You also just breezed past the point where 2 people have told you it’s not really a fit anyways. The issue isn’t needing a guy like Rozier or a tweener like Morris. It’s needing an athletic wing player. I rather just take either of the Bridges of Walker at 10 than have a one year rental on Rozier and Morris, and need to commit bit money to one of them to keep them. The deal makes no sense from our side.
    Last edited by warfelg; 06-12-2018 at 12:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    I dunno what kinda numbers you are using there but Paul George’s max is higher than Embiids.
    $30M is more than $25M.

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    id rather keep Reddick then trade an asset for Rozier anyway. Miles Bridges + Reddick is a lot more valuable to us than Rozier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    $30M is more than $25M.
    It came through with strange formatting on mobile anyways. Doesn’t matter since he still forgot about 3 players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    It came through with strange formatting on mobile anyways. Doesn’t matter since he still forgot about 3 players.
    Yeah ... but once over the cap you can sign an infinite number of players on vet minimum deals. Not saying I agree with the idea/plan, just that it's not unworkable.

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