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View Poll Results: Which team will win the NBA Finals?

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  • Houston

    2 14.29%
  • Toronto

    0 0%
  • Golden State

    7 50.00%
  • Boston

    0 0%
  • Portland

    0 0%
  • Philadelphia

    3 21.43%
  • Oklahoma City

    0 0%
  • Cleveland

    0 0%
  • Utah

    0 0%
  • Indiana

    0 0%
  • New Orleans

    0 0%
  • Miami

    2 14.29%
  • San Antonio

    0 0%
  • Milwaukee

    0 0%
  • Minnesota

    0 0%
  • Washington

    0 0%
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  1. #61
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    Here are the Vegas odds for each series: http://https://www.oddsshark.com/nba...betting-prices

    Heaviest to least FAVORITES for their first round series are:

    Rockets
    Warriors
    Raptors and Cavs have the same odds in their respective series
    Sixers
    Blazers
    Celtics
    Thunder

    Examples:
    A $100 bet on the Thunder to beat the Jazz in the first round pays back ~$175 total ($75 profit)
    A $100 bet on the Rockets to beat the TWolves pays back ~$103 ($3 profit)

    Get that money!
    Last edited by tredigs; 04-13-2018 at 12:12 PM.

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    Here are the VegasInsider odds to win it all (updated yesterday)
    http://http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

    Warriors 3/2
    Rockets 3/2
    Cavs 8/1
    Raptors 12/1
    Sixers 15/1
    Thunder 40/1

    Warriors and Rockets both 1:1 to come out of the West, followed by the Blazers at 25/1.

    To come out of the East:

    Cavs 10/11
    Raps 2/1
    Sixers 4/1
    Last edited by tredigs; 04-13-2018 at 12:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Here are the Vegas odds for each series: http://https://www.oddsshark.com/nba...betting-prices

    Heaviest to least FAVORITES for their first round series are:

    Rockets
    Warriors
    Raptors and Cavs have the same odds in their respective series
    Sixers
    Blazers
    Celtics
    Thunder

    A $100 bet on the Thunder to beat the Jazz in the first round pays back ~$175 total ($75 profit)
    A $100 bet on the Rockets to beat the TWolves pays back ~$103 ($3 profit)

    Great that money!
    might wanna mention the risk on taking OKC and the profit side for Utah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDish87 View Post
    might wanna mention the risk on taking OKC and the profit side for Utah.
    Oh I have Utah. I set out the platter, you guys delve in as you see fit.

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    PredictionMachine (a predictive sports-betting tool that runs 50 thousand simulations for the most likely outcome) however sees it a little differently from the Vegas lines:


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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Oh I have Utah. I set out the platter, you guys delve in as you see fit.
    id take the Jazz with those odds too
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    Eastern Conference -- First Round

    (1) Toronto Raptors vs. (8) Washington Wizards

    Game 1: Sat. April 14 Washington at Toronto 5:30 p.m., ESPN
    Game 2: Tue, April 17 Washington at Toronto, 7 p.m., NBA TV

    Game 3: Fri. April 20 Toronto at Washington, 8 p.m., ESPN2
    Game 4: Sun. April 22 Toronto at Washington, 6 p.m., TNT

    Game 5: Wed. April 25 Washington at Toronto, TBD*
    Game 6: Fri. April 27 Toronto at Washington, TBD*
    Game 7: Wed. April 25 ;Washington at Toronto, TBD*

    (2) Boston Celtics vs. (7) Milwaukee Bucks 



    Game 1: Sun. April 15 Milwaukee at Boston, 1 p.m. TNT

    Game 2: Tue, April 17 Milwaukee at Boston, 8 p.m., TNT


    Game 3: Fri. April 20 Boston at Milwaukee, 9:30 p.m., ESPN


    Game 4: Sun. April 22 Boston at Milwaukee, 1 p.m., ABC-R


    Game 5: Tue. April 24 Milwaukee at Boston, TBD
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    Game 6: Thu. April 26 Boston at Milwaukee, TBD
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    Game 7: Sat/ April 28 Milwaukee at Boston, TNT
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    (3) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (6) Miami Heat 


    
Game 1: Sat. April 14 Miami at Philadelphia, 8 p.m., ESPN

    Game 2: Mon. April 16 Miami at Philadelphia, 8 p.m., TNT

    Game 3: Thu. April 19 Philadelphia at Miami, 7 p.m., TNT



    Game 4: Sat. April 21 Philadelphia at Miami, 2:30 p.m., TNT



    Game 5: Tue. April 24 Miami at Philadelphia, TBD
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    Game 6: Thu. April 26 Philadelphia at Miami, TBD
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    Game 7: Sat. April 28& Miami at Philadelphia, TNT*





    (4) Cleveland Cavaliers vs. (5) Indiana Pacers

    Game 1: Sun. April 15 Indiana at Cleveland, 3:30 p.m., ABC-R


    Game 2: Wed. April 18 Indiana at Cleveland, 7 p.m., TNT-R


    Game 3: Fri. April 20 Cleveland at Indiana, 7 p.m., ESPN-R

    Game 4: Sun. April 22 Cleveland at Indiana, 8:30 p.m., TNT


    Game 5: Wed. April 25 Indiana at Cleveland, TBD
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    Game 6: Fri. April 27 Cleveland at Indiana, TBD
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    Game 7: Sun. April 29 Indiana at Cleveland, TBD
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    Western Conference

    (1) Houston Rockets vs. (8) Minnesota Timberwolves

    Sun. April 15 Minnesota at Houston, 9 p.m., TNT
    Game 2: Wed. April 18 Minnesota at Houston, 9:30 p.m., TNT
    
Game 3: Sat. April 21 Houston at Minnesota, 7:30 p.m., ESPN-R
    
Game 4: Mon. April 23 Houston at Minnesota, 8 p.m.,TNT-R

    Game 5: Wed. April 25 Minnesota at Houston, TBD
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    Game 6: Fri. April 27 Houston at Minnesota, TBD
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    Game 7: Sun. April 29 Minnesota at Houston, TBD*

    2) Golden State Warriors vs. (7) San Antonio Spurs



    Game 1: Sat. April 14 San Antonio at Golden State, 3 p.m., ABC-R

    Game 2: Mon. April 16 San Antonio at Golden State, 10:30 p.m., TNT-R

    Game 3: Thu. April 19 Golden State at San Antonio, 9:30 p.m., TNT

    Game 4: Sun. April 22 Golden State at San Antonio, 3:30 p.m., ABC-R

    Game 5: Tue. April 24 San Antonio at Golden State, TBD
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    Game 6: Thu. April 26 Golden State at San Antonio, TBD
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    Game 7: Sat. April 28 San Antonio at Golden State, TNT*

    (3) Portland Trail Blazers vs. (6) New Orleans Pelicans



    Game 1: Sat. April 14 New Orleans at Portland, 10:30 p.m., ESPN

    Game 2: Tue. April 17 New Orleans at Portland, 10:30 p.m., TNT

    Game 3: Thu. April 19 Portland at New Orleans, 9 p.m., NBA TV
    
Game 4: Sat. April 21 Portland at New Orleans, 5 p.m.,TNT

    Game 5: Tue. April 24 New Orleans at Portland, TBD
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    Game 6: Thu. April 26 Portland at New Orleans, TBD
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    Game 7: Sat. April 28 New Orleans at Portland, TNT*



    (4) Oklahoma City Thunder vs. (5) Utah Jazz

    

Game 1: Sun. April 15 Utah at Oklahoma City, 6:30 p.m., TNT

    Game 2: Wed. April 18 Utah at Oklahoma City, 8 p.m., NBA TV
    
Game 3: Sat. April 21 Oklahoma City at Utah, 10 p.m., ESPN
    
Game 4: Mon. April 23 Oklahoma City at Utah, 10:30 p.m., TNT

    Game 5: Wed. April 25 Utah at Oklahoma City, TBD
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    Game 6: Fri. April 27 Oklahoma City at Utah, TBD
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    Game 7: Sun. April 29 Utah at Oklahoma City, TBD*

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    "Clutch shooting" this year (5 minutes or less in 4th quarter or OT in a 5 point or closer game). Sorted by eFG% and removed guys who had the majority of their shots assisted (didn't want just to see role players who were benefitting from star players kicking the ball out).

    http://bkref.com/tiny/zEEms

    1: KD
    2: Curry
    3: Waiters (!)
    4: LeBron
    5: Giannis

    Other notables: Kyrie 15th, Harden 21st, DeRozan + Lowry 20/24, Westbrook 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Here are the VegasInsider odds to win it all (updated yesterday)
    http://http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/

    Warriors 3/2
    Rockets 3/2
    Cavs 8/1
    Raptors 12/1
    Sixers 15/1
    Thunder 40/1

    Warriors and Rockets both 1:1 to come out of the West, followed by the Blazers at 25/1.

    To come out of the East:

    Cavs 10/11
    Raps 2/1
    Sixers 4/1
    So Vegas is giving the same odds to a banged up Warriors team as they are to the historically great Rockets? Imagine if the Warriors were fully healthy, they'd be the clear favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    So Vegas is giving the same odds to a banged up Warriors team as they are to the historically great Rockets? Imagine if the Warriors were fully healthy, they'd be the clear favorites.
    Negative. It obviously accounts for Curry coming back as projected in the next 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Negative. It obviously accounts for Curry coming back as projected in the next 2 weeks.
    I don't think that's accurate. Even if he comes back, Vegas is not going to assume full health, they are going to hedge their bets rather than risk losing big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    "Clutch shooting" this year (5 minutes or less in 4th quarter or OT in a 5 point or closer game). Sorted by eFG% and removed guys who had the majority of their shots assisted (didn't want just to see role players who were benefitting from star players kicking the ball out).

    http://bkref.com/tiny/zEEms

    1: KD
    2: Curry
    3: Waiters (!)
    4: LeBron
    5: Giannis

    Other notables: Kyrie 15th, Harden 21st, DeRozan + Lowry 20/24, Westbrook 30.
    I wonder how different the Heat would be if they had waiters. Personally I think he sucks but he played well last year and was huge in last seasons 2nd half run.

    Dragic at 16th, Wade at 27th while no one on the Sixers is even in the top 50. I like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    I don't think that's accurate. Even if he comes back, Vegas is not going to assume full health, they are going to hedge their bets rather than risk losing big.
    There's no question as to whether he is coming back. It's assumed he will be back weeks before that series would occur, and therefore accounted for. There's a hedge as to assuming he will be at FULL health, sure, but there is an inherent overplay on the Warriors versus the Rockets by the betting public, which more than counters that. And again, going by the "prediction machine", they just outright think the Rockets are clear favorites based on their simulations (with Curry). Myself, I think the Warriors are slight favorites at full health with Houston having HCA. I also think those who don't understand that the Rockets are legitimate threats at this point (against a full squad Warriors) are living under a rock and are complete idiots when it comes to their understanding of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    There's no question as to whether he is coming back. It's assumed he will be back weeks before that series would occur, and therefore accounted for. There's a hedge as to assuming he will be at FULL health, sure, but there is an inherent overplay on the Warriors versus the Rockets by the betting public, which more than counters that. And again, going by the "prediction machine", they just outright think the Rockets are clear favorites based on their simulations (with Curry). Myself, I think the Warriors are slight favorites at full health with Houston having HCA. I also think those who don't understand that the Rockets are legitimate threats at this point (against a full squad Warriors) are living under a rock and are complete idiots when it comes to their understanding of the game.
    And those simulations are going by the data from this regular season which is in essence, worthless to compare since GS (and Houston) have had some many games where they were not at full strength.

    As to your point about living under a rock or being complete idiots, If the Warriors cruise through the Rockets at full health will you admit you are a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game?
    Last edited by valade16; 04-13-2018 at 06:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    And those simulations are going by the data from this regular season which is in essence, worthless to compare since GS (and Houston) have had some many games where they were not at full strength.

    As to your point about living under a rock or being complete idiots, If the Warriors cruise through the Rockets at full health will you admit you are a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game?
    It's a compilation of regular season data + stats + "projections". Far from simply reg season data. It's also far from the best predictor, but it's about the best that most of the public has access to.

    And sure, if the Warriors just breeze on through the Rockets I will GLADLY eat that crow. But, they won't. They can't. The Rockets are simply too hard to beat to get dominated, by anyone.

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