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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    My politics are exactly the same as whatever dumb dictator you have in your head when you hear "socialism". Great point. Also, definitely on topic. Bang up work as always my dude!
    Oh I'm sure "your" Socialism would work wonders and fix everything that the countless others tried but just couldn't pull it off because they didn't have ManRams brilliance.. That's why if you don't think you have a proper news source study history. You might find something that you missed before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    To be fair, he said far-right, not just right wing. I doubt anyone would claim Fox News is not right. That being said, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham frequently echo far-right talking points, and I believe they just recently had a segment on Fox News about Qanon which was fairly positive to the conspiracy.
    Sure. I do think those three are "far-right", however. As someone who rails on the right for not using their words to describe these things properly, I should've been more careful with "far-right" and "right-wing" there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity? What are they if not right wing? And even the more moderate shows still often serve as an unfiltered mouth piece for Trump and his far right policy (see: Fox and Friends).

    There are some more moderate people there but the big money makers are definitely right wingers. Come on dude. You. Don't. Have. To. Do. This. All. The. Time.
    one could say the same thing for CNN and MSNBC for (pick a host). yet some are convinced that surely these are not left wing at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    one could say the same thing for CNN and MSNBC for (pick a host). yet some are convinced that surely these are not left wing at all.
    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Who?
    I would say thousands across America, but just here ManRam for one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    just popping my head in again to point out that there is no real predominant left wing media. y'all can cry all you want about general biases, but just be happy that there is, again, no real left-wing media. and that all you dullards have your prominent right-wing media.

    no left wing media, but right-wing media.

    someone literally believes this, and I guaranteed that many in America also believe this.

    how is it possible for anyone to be convinced that Hannity/Tucker Carlson are right wing, but the likes of Rachel Maddow are not left wing. come on.

    I'm also not disputing that some with Fox News are right wing, but lets stop pretending the same thing isn't also coming from both CNN and MSNBC.
    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I would say thousands across America, but just here ManRam for one.




    no left wing media, but right-wing media.

    someone literally believes this, and I guaranteed that many in America also believe this.

    how is it possible for anyone to be convinced that Hannity/Tucker Carlson are right wing, but the likes of Rachel Maddow are not left wing. come on.

    I'm also not disputing that some with Fox News are right wing, but lets stop pretending the same thing isn't also coming from both CNN and MSNBC.
    When you say America do you mean Mexico and Canada too? Brazil? Columbia? Among the many others that could be included. Or just the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I would say thousands across America, but just here ManRam for one.




    no left wing media, but right-wing media.

    someone literally believes this, and I guaranteed that many in America also believe this.

    how is it possible for anyone to be convinced that Hannity/Tucker Carlson are right wing, but the likes of Rachel Maddow are not left wing. come on.

    I'm also not disputing that some with Fox News are right wing, but lets stop pretending the same thing isn't also coming from both CNN and MSNBC.
    Which major network openly supports an actual liberal agenda? Who at the devilish MSNBC is supporting Medicare for all, wealth tax, UBI, or any other far left policy? Check your garbage sources and get back to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Which major network openly supports an actual liberal agenda? Who at the devilish MSNBC is supporting Medicare for all, wealth tax, UBI, or any other far left policy? Check your garbage sources and get back to me.
    C’mon there’s plenty that support a liberal agenda at MSNBC- besides Maddow, there’s also O’Donnell and Matthews just to name a few. Fox definitely supports a conservative agenda. There’s also people on the major news networks that support liberal agenda. George Stephanopoulos worked in the Clinton administration. This isn’t a huge leap

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    C’mon there’s plenty that support a liberal agenda at MSNBC- besides Maddow, there’s also O’Donnell and Matthews just to name a few. Fox definitely supports a conservative agenda. There’s also people on the major news networks that support liberal agenda. George Stephanopoulos worked in the Clinton administration. This isn’t a huge leap
    Yeah, this is not what we're discussing here. Again, it would so much easier if any of you guys understand the difference between these words. "Liberal", "leftist", "centrist", "socialist"...and didn't just lump them all into the same group like FNK admittedly does.

    No one here would argue that there isn't a Liberal influence and bias at MSNBC Of course there is. That's my whole point: there's plenty of "Liberal" media but very little "leftist" media, especially when we're talking about the major outlets.

    O'Donnell might be an example of a leftist, but the others you mention are undeniably not. Maddow is a "Liberal" through and through...I'd LOVE it if someone as influential as her was a leftist.

    And Chris Matthews is a self-identified "centrist" who voted for George W Bush.


    EDIT: I think Benny maybe misspoke when saying "Liberal"?? I did miss that. Unless we think something different about that word. A "Liberal" to me is an establishment Dem who isn't quite a centrist, but certainly isn't at all that left. But in terms of the discussion we've been having my points stand. Perhaps you do understand the point I've been trying to make and just latched onto benny's one post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    When you say America do you mean Mexico and Canada too? Brazil? Columbia? Among the many others that could be included. Or just the United States.
    I don't follow media in countries other than America so I wouldn't be able to say.







    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Which major network openly supports an actual liberal agenda? Who at the devilish MSNBC is supporting Medicare for all, wealth tax, UBI, or any other far left policy? Check your garbage sources and get back to me.
    CNN and MSNBC support DEMOCRATS in general. anyone sane should be able to see this.
    they're not selectively supporting a Democrat on this issue and a Republican on another issue.







    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Yeah, this is not what we're discussing here. Again, it would so much easier if any of you guys understand the difference between these words. "Liberal", "leftist", "centrist", "socialist"...and didn't just lump them all into the same group like FNK admittedly does.

    No one here would argue that there isn't a Liberal influence and bias at MSNBC Of course there is. That's my whole point: there's plenty of "Liberal" media but very little "leftist" media, especially when we're talking about the major outlets.

    O'Donnell might be an example of a leftist, but the others you mention are undeniably not. Maddow is a "Liberal" through and through...I'd LOVE it if someone as influential as her was a leftist.

    And Chris Matthews is a self-identified "centrist" who voted for George W Bush.


    EDIT: I think Benny maybe misspoke when saying "Liberal"?? I did miss that. Unless we think something different about that word. A "Liberal" to me is an establishment Dem who isn't quite a centrist, but certainly isn't at all that left. But in terms of the discussion we've been having my points stand. Perhaps you do understand the point I've been trying to make and just latched onto benny's one post.
    yes this is what I'm discussing. the bold is what I have argued for years. I don't care about the differences between Liberal and leftist, they're on the same side. I don't know if I've ever argued about something "leftist". there are really 3 choices, left, center, right. center would be media without bias. left is media with left wing bias, more Liberal. right would be right wing bias, more Conservative.

    the difference between Liberal, leftist, whatever doesn't change that both CNN and MSNBC are both typically more aligned with Democrats, and from what I've seen watching them and Fox News that that is more accurate than Fox News aligning with Trump or Republicans.
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    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    C’mon there’s plenty that support a liberal agenda at MSNBC- besides Maddow, there’s also O’Donnell and Matthews just to name a few. Fox definitely supports a conservative agenda. There’s also people on the major news networks that support liberal agenda. George Stephanopoulos worked in the Clinton administration. This isn’t a huge leap
    They actually dont, they are in the tank for Joe or Pete. That's a very centrist agenda, which is the point manram and I are making. Sure they support Dems, but their agenda is hardly liberal.

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    Cross post from the 2020 thread, but applies here too.

    Link is to an America Uncovered video, don't particularly like the guy, but it's an interesting collection of information that reminds me a lot of DNC corruption and the collusion of the media in 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sprzR4-4v4

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    Underneath the obvious intention of discrediting the DNC (not surprising for ET, but not unwarranted either), there are some serious questions about our electoral process, especially as regards the mass media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Underneath the obvious intention of discrediting the DNC (not surprising for ET, but not unwarranted either), there are some serious questions about our electoral process, especially as regards the mass media.
    I really have no idea how we can fix it within the constitution. We need to have elections based on what candidates say, they have to have equal opportunity to say what they want to say, and we need there to be no other talk about them anywhere. We can do the first two but the 3rd is the killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Yeah, this is not what we're discussing here. Again, it would so much easier if any of you guys understand the difference between these words. "Liberal", "leftist", "centrist", "socialist"...and didn't just lump them all into the same group like FNK admittedly does.

    No one here would argue that there isn't a Liberal influence and bias at MSNBC Of course there is. That's my whole point: there's plenty of "Liberal" media but very little "leftist" media, especially when we're talking about the major outlets.

    O'Donnell might be an example of a leftist, but the others you mention are undeniably not. Maddow is a "Liberal" through and through...I'd LOVE it if someone as influential as her was a leftist.

    And Chris Matthews is a self-identified "centrist" who voted for George W Bush.


    EDIT: I think Benny maybe misspoke when saying "Liberal"?? I did miss that. Unless we think something different about that word. A "Liberal" to me is an establishment Dem who isn't quite a centrist, but certainly isn't at all that left. But in terms of the discussion we've been having my points stand. Perhaps you do understand the point I've been trying to make and just latched onto benny's one post.
    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    They actually dont, they are in the tank for Joe or Pete. That's a very centrist agenda, which is the point manram and I are making. Sure they support Dems, but their agenda is hardly liberal.
    You all need to get together on this and define your terms before expecting us to. Furthermore, as I previously stated, I seriously doubt any media member is going to identify that far left. They are trying to attract a mass audience. That being said, they will support the democrat candidate for president. Fox News wasn’t exactly pro trump during the GOP race either but once he became the nominee, he was their boy.

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