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    Hawk if you have a 15 month old daughter all of this stuff is mute. Spend time with her and give her all your devotion as this junk will always be here. I apologize if I put you in a corner.

    I work in the mental health field and tell my folks that have young ones that the most important thing you will ever do is be a good Christian (not that that is for here) good parent, and good spouse. Everything else is stuff.

    Again I Love hoops but you backing off for family is admirable! Take care and think your priorities are in line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    This could be worse than what Thibs has done so far, oh man you must be pissed about our situation. No way man, this is just getting ridiculous don't let Thibs or GS or whatever ruin the one bright spot we still have.

    He definitely still struggles on defense but it has been getting better over time. He isn't going to be elite on that end but he is already a top 15 offensive player basically (rpm has him 12th on O 16th overall). If he were given the ball more with major mismatches instead of playing the dumb Thibs ball he would look even better too. In an offense not catered to him he is having an incredible impact for such a young player.

    He is the guy we should be offering the big max to for sure. I mean we already did with Wiggins so it's whatever but not doing so for Towns after that would be basically insane from our FO.
    I am very slowly adjusting to the entitlement generation, so you will have to bear with me.

    I will rephrase- If Towns doesn't take it upon himself to give a **** defensively, he will never reach his potential. Towns isn't quite as young as many want to paint, remember, its more about experience and usage. I agree Thib's doesn't use him right (I alluded to this earlier), and maybe a coaching change would help.

    I just can't stand how the NBA has turned into this toss money at everyone over potential and deal with the consequences. The margin for error for a small market team is so small, we likely already jacked ourselves.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    I remember one year ago, Towns was voted as the young player all GM's would start with. My guess is he has dropped on that list.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    Hawk if you have a 15 month old daughter all of this stuff is mute. Spend time with her and give her all your devotion as this junk will always be here. I apologize if I put you in a corner.

    I work in the mental health field and tell my folks that have young ones that the most important thing you will ever do is be a good Christian (not that that is for here) good parent, and good spouse. Everything else is stuff.

    Again I Love hoops but you backing off for family is admirable! Take care and think your priorities are in line!
    dude I waited 41 years for her, the moment she came I was overwhelmed with how much I love her (though I am a complete nancy when it comes to emotions regarding the ones I love). So yeah, I put her and my wife first, second, and third. Being a father is by far the greatest adventure I will ever have. Sports are awesome, but like you said, they will be there when I want to devote myself again. My brother brought up an interesting point. I was/am so annoyed by Durant and his decision to join GS and kill the league, perhaps my entire view on the NBA is temporarily distorted. Like, who cares? Anything we make up is just narrative. The Warriors may have been pushed by Houston this year, but Houston slowly built the team to stop the Warriors and despite being right on the brink, we could all see the Warriors weren't playing anything close to their best, yet they still won. Cmon. I know Paul's injury killed Houston, but Harden was going to disappear late, as usual, Paul likely would have too.

    Thanks man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    I am very slowly adjusting to the entitlement generation, so you will have to bear with me.

    I will rephrase- If Towns doesn't take it upon himself to give a **** defensively, he will never reach his potential. Towns isn't quite as young as many want to paint, remember, its more about experience and usage. I agree Thib's doesn't use him right (I alluded to this earlier), and maybe a coaching change would help.

    I just can't stand how the NBA has turned into this toss money at everyone over potential and deal with the consequences. The margin for error for a small market team is so small, we likely already jacked ourselves.
    Ok this post is better haha. Ya I agree it sucks but tbh that's how the NBA wants things to allow these super teams etc. I don't blame meh players for taking advantage of the system in place which refuses to allow max players to truly get their worth while allowing some teams to spend way more than others based on situation/owner etc. No Max salaries and a hard cap. Boom not nearly as many overpays and parity might start to creep in.

    Towns will be worth that money based on even his impact stats from last year. Given the coaching issues and not being used right onto his youth and it's an easy max to make imo. I agree his defense still has a ton of work but I personally think he has grown a little each year. He clearly has big steps to take on that end but he also is getting to a spot where he isn't a negative on that end anymore either really (we were better defensively with him on the court than off, different than both previous years). I know a guy like AD took off on the defensive end in his 3rd year and we can't expect a jump like that anymore from Towns given where he is but I think he can still be a positive on that end while being a top offensive threat in the league.

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    I've been thinking with Towns' playing style, him maybe shedding 20 lbs for more quickness would help his game and make him more athletic on defense.

    He doesn't over power guys down on the post and would be better suited as a stretch 4 rather than a center.

    We just have to grab a center that compliments him well, someone similar to DeAndre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    This could be worse than what Thibs has done so far, oh man you must be pissed about our situation. No way man, this is just getting ridiculous don't let Thibs or GS or whatever ruin the one bright spot we still have.

    He definitely still struggles on defense but it has been getting better over time. He isn't going to be elite on that end but he is already a top 15 offensive player basically (rpm has him 12th on O 16th overall). If he were given the ball more with major mismatches instead of playing the dumb Thibs ball he would look even better too. In an offense not catered to him he is having an incredible impact for such a young player.

    He is the guy we should be offering the big max to for sure. I mean we already did with Wiggins so it's whatever but not doing so for Towns after that would be basically insane from our FO.
    I would completely 2nd this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    I remember one year ago, Towns was voted as the young player all GM's would start with. My guess is he has dropped on that list.
    one year ago, this team was thought of higher than the 6ers, as far as young talent. You put last year's Wolves in the Eastern Conference with Rubio/Lavine/Wiggins/???/Towns...People are still putting them with, or above the 6ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    1. You mean to say Wiggins isn't as good as Thibs seems to think with his regular usage etc?

    2. You mean to say that while everyone was complaining about rotations and Tyus needing to play more even Tyus himself AND the guy he would replace (Teague) talked to Thibs about the same thing?

    I guess this report just confirms what most of us have been thinking about Thibs.
    No, "I" Don't mean to say this, though I agree with it, like many do here...its just popping up in the media now, more and more.

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    Butler's mentality reminds me so much of KG. The big difference though, is that this was always KG's team...Butler was brought in when it was Rubio, KATs, Wiggins and Lavines team. Players coming in are much more likely to adapt or fall in line when they come to a team with an established personality like KG or Butt, but when you got a thing going as the leader/s of a team, then a guy like Butt comes in, there's going to be issues, and we are seeing it right now.

    Disclaimer; I'm not saying KG and teammates didnt have issues, but it never seemed like it was like this. Just saying, guys came in, knowing it was KG's team...now we have an alpha just tossed into the den of guys who already thought they were the alpha, or alphas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    No, "I" Don't mean to say this, though I agree with it, like many do here...its just popping up in the media now, more and more.
    I was just trying to be a bit sarcastic about that report since it's stuff many have said, didn't literally mean YOU were saying it right there haha. I do appreciate you posting I hadn't seen it.

    Ya the media seems to be catching on and/or confirming some of these issues. I, like you and many others, also agree that there have been a lot of flaws overall.

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    With all due respect to the organization, I had more fun watching the Wolves when they were a 29/31 win team the previous two years than I did last year. I maybe watched about 3-5 games total this past season and just kept an eye on the boxscore. I have watched more Jazz/Bulls games quite honestly, because the two players that made this team fun to watch were both traded. I think I've stated it a million times, but when "you" trade my two favorite players on the team(and I bet the same goes for a lot of fans), I lose interest. FFS, Tyus Jones and Bjelica(who will likely be gone) are my favorite Timberwolves players at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    one year ago, this team was thought of higher than the 6ers, as far as young talent. You put last year's Wolves in the Eastern Conference with Rubio/Lavine/Wiggins/???/Towns...People are still putting them with, or above the 6ers.
    to be fair, Embiid's health was in question, and Simmons was an unknown. Those 2 are better than any duo we have down the line by a mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    to be fair, Embiid's health was in question, and Simmons was an unknown. Those 2 are better than any duo we have down the line by a mile.
    Used to be a toss up...KAT and Wiggins, or Embiid and Simmons.

    No question now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldyy View Post
    I've been thinking with Towns' playing style, him maybe shedding 20 lbs for more quickness would help his game and make him more athletic on defense.

    He doesn't over power guys down on the post and would be better suited as a stretch 4 rather than a center.

    We just have to grab a center that compliments him well, someone similar to DeAndre.
    This has been discussed here before. My issue with the "new" game is that Towns has such an advantage in the post when he is there why doesn't he play in the pit more often. The small ball is fine but NBA has always been about matchups and he has a clear advantage most nights in there and has been hanging out behind the three point line. Dumb. I am okay with him out there from time to time but he NEEDS to stay down low and punish guys. That being said he looked soft in the playoffs so hopefully he finds LeBrons Navy Seal and gets his body right.

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