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    DOJ Sues the state of California

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/justice...aws-1520388055
    It's effectively over whether or not the States sanctuary laws are constitutional.

    This is from The Knife Media analyzing the spin on it.
    https://www.theknifemedia.com/world-...ia-added-more/

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    I think they might stand a chance with the law forbidding cooperation between private companies and federal law enforcement. I donít know the specifics of the law so it might be legitimate.

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    why do the Democrats care so much about protecting these illegal criminals?

    I don't understand why law enforcement would not want to help have illegals that committed crimes be deported.

    this just seems like because Trump is against illegals/sanctuary cities, that those that are against Trump have to be for this by default.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    "Why do Democrats care about the well-being of people".

    Great question, FNK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    why do the Democrats care so much about protecting these illegal criminals?

    I don't understand why law enforcement would not want to help have illegals that committed crimes be deported.

    this just seems like because Trump is against illegals/sanctuary cities, that those that are against Trump have to be for this by default.
    Because immigration is a federal issue. It's not about caring about protecting illegals or law enforcement wanting to help people who are here illegally. Would you expect the federal government to arrest people for violating state crimes? How would you feel if the FBI arrested someone for littering and detained them until the state police showed up?
    Think long and hard about why you respond to nonsense. Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    "Why do Democrats care about the well-being of people".

    Great question, FNK.
    It does appear democrats care more about the well-being of some people over others. If you are a California native criminal Democrats are not warning you to avoid arrest, but if you are not a citizen you are warned? That IS a little strange don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Because immigration is a federal issue. It's not about caring about protecting illegals or law enforcement wanting to help people who are here illegally. Would you expect the federal government to arrest people for violating state crimes? How would you feel if the FBI arrested someone for littering and detained them until the state police showed up?
    You get that itís impossible for anyone who pays any attention to this issue not to understand. He did get to call Mexicans criminals and equate the drug dealers and murderes to people illegally crossing the border. He gets a gold star for the day and you gave it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    why do the Democrats care so much about protecting these illegal criminals?

    I don't understand why law enforcement would not want to help have illegals that committed crimes be deported.

    this just seems like because Trump is against illegals/sanctuary cities, that those that are against Trump have to be for this by default.
    Well outside the general argument, for California they probably care because they produce a ton of agricultural things like nuts and berries and illegal immigrants make up a lot of the farm hands that help bring those crops to consumers, and if all the illegal immigrants were all deported they wouldn't have enough Americans that would want to do those jobs without significantly raising the price and skyrocketing the price for consumers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    It does appear democrats care more about the well-being of some people over others. If you are a California native criminal Democrats are not warning you to avoid arrest, but if you are not a citizen you are warned? That IS a little strange don't you think?
    But that simply isn't true. For instance, California has helped the legal pot industry there avoid federal detection and arrest. They definitely warn and help Californian citizens avoid arrest against the Federal Government for things they don't agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    It does appear democrats care more about the well-being of some people over others. If you are a California native criminal Democrats are not warning you to avoid arrest, but if you are not a citizen you are warned? That IS a little strange don't you think?
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    Hey, what ever happened to STAAAHTS RAAAHTS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Hey, what ever happened to STAAAHTS RAAAHTS?
    Sessions is named after Jefferson Davis and PGT Beauregard, two men who rebelled against the United States of America due to many motivations, the most often cited by defenders (because it's far less heinous than the rest) being states rights.

    But whatever. We know hypocrisy is one of the few chief tenant of Trumpism that they remain consistent on. As always, hypocrisy no longer means anything.
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    I'm loving The Knife Media. I had a whole "**** you" fired up response, and then reading The Knife settled it.....a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    why do the Democrats care so much about protecting these illegal criminals?

    I don't understand why law enforcement would not want to help have illegals that committed crimes be deported.

    this just seems like because Trump is against illegals/sanctuary cities, that those that are against Trump have to be for this by default.
    I'm not sure how many more times we need to explain just how many of these undocumented/illegal immigrants are law abiding, tax playing and hard working members of our society, some here for decades with families.

    Not criminals.

    They need a better pathway to citizenship, not ICE Gestapo breaking down their door and sending them to a foreign country.

    This isn't antiTrump politics, its basic human rights and respect for immigrants, which helped build who we are today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    But that simply isn't true. For instance, California has helped the legal pot industry there avoid federal detection and arrest. They definitely warn and help Californian citizens avoid arrest against the Federal Government for things they don't agree with.
    Link to California government helping pot industry against feds?

    But that is still just one more group the government may occasionally help (I'm sure it's not universal that CA government is defending pot sellers/growers/users). What about other criminals?

    I'm a liberal son of an illegal immigrant, and I'm not at all sure CA is in the right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    I'm loving The Knife Media. I had a whole "**** you" fired up response, and then reading The Knife settled it.....a little.



    I'm not sure how many more times we need to explain just how many of these undocumented/illegal immigrants are law abiding, tax playing and hard working members of our society, some here for decades with families.

    Not criminals.

    They need a better pathway to citizenship, not ICE Gestapo breaking down their door and sending them to a foreign country.

    This isn't antiTrump politics, its basic human rights and respect for immigrants, which helped build who we are today.
    I agree that we need to make the process to become a citizen much more efficient. I have a friend who is here legally and has been trying to become a citizen for 10 years and has spend $20k already to not be able to be a citizen which is nuts (he's Brittish). But we also need to get governments to stop using their political clout to grease the wheels for their citizens over citizens from other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Link to California government helping pot industry against feds?

    But that is still just one more group the government may occasionally help (I'm sure it's not universal that CA government is defending pot sellers/growers/users). What about other criminals?

    I'm a liberal son of an illegal immigrant, and I'm not at all sure CA is in the right here.
    Certainly:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-l...225-story.html

    "I took an oath to enforce the laws that California has passed," California Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra said in a statement Thursday after Spicer's comments. "If there is action from the federal government on this subject, I will respond in an appropriate way to protect the interests of California."

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/califor...tus-marijuana/

    A bill moving through the state legislature would prohibit state and local police from assisting federal agents who target marijuana businesses that are legal according to state law, unless those agents have a court order.

    California may become a sanctuary state for pot in addition to illegal immigration.


    I'm not sure CA is in the right here either, but the idea that they are only protecting illegal immigrants and not legal Californians from the federal government is simply erroneous. They are protecting the pot industry every bit as vigilantly as they are illegal immigrants from any attempt by the federal government to countermand their state laws.

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