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  1. #1
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    The Superbowl showed why Green Bay needs to address the Offense, not the defense!

    Everyones mock drafts have the Packers spending the majority of it's picks, especially the early picks on defense. The Superbowl showed us just how flawed that thought process is. The 2 best teams in football, both top seeds, with top 5 defense's in scoring and neither defense was able to put up any resistence to the opponents offense. So why waste all our assets trying to improve the defense, when even if we were to succeed, it would probably get shreaded by Philadelphia or New England in the playoffs anyway.

    This teams goal should be to try and win the Superbowl. Both the Eagles and the Patriots showed us that in order to achieve this goal, you will need to score on nearly every possesion. We already have a Quarterback capable of playing and winning that type of game. Now we need to upgrade the O-Line, TE position and WR group to make that goal of winning a Superbowl next season a reality. A backup QB will have no effect on winning the Superbowl, so drafting one is mostly a wasted pick.

    This team needs to add a WR and TE in free agency and draft a Wr, TE and O-Lineman in the 1st 4 rounds of the draft. We should look to sign Trey Burton as a free agent and draft Troy Fumagali with our 3rd round comp pick or 4th round pick to upgrade the TE position. We should sign John Brown or Jaron Brown as a FA WR and draft a WR in the 2nd round. Our 3rd round pick should be an offensive lineman. We can spend pick 14 on a difference maker on the defensive side of the ball, but 3 of our next 4 picks should be used to give Rodgers the players he needs to make our offense elite once again.

    Pick 14 - OLB, CB or difference maker defender (Smith or Edmunds)
    Pick 45 - WR, TE or O-Line
    Pick 76 - O-Line, WR or TE
    Pick 102 - TE, Oline or WR
    Pick 116 - CB or OLB
    Pick 141 - 2nd O-Line
    Picks 160, 163 & 165 - 3 defensive players
    Rounds 6 and 2-7th round picks - Best available player
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    Yeah but then when the Bronco's won everyone says that's why we need to fix the defense. Defense wins championships and ill always believe that. It just so happened that both teams in this years SB had mediocre at best defenses.

    We need pass rushers and cb's. Rodgers will make the offense go no matter who's on the field. Brady threw for over 500 yards and the players he has on offense are guy most people don't even know anything about outside of Gronk.

  3. #3
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    You need both. You need to be able to win a game when the offense only score 14 and you need to be able to win a game when you give up 30. The eagles are the perfect example of that. Their offense played great in the super bowl and nfc championship. But they wouldnít have even made it to either one of those games if their defense didnít hold Atlanta to 10 points

    Iím not in the camp that we need to spend our first 4 picks on defense. But our defense needs to improve. This offense could win a ring if Rodgers is healthy and the defense were a top 10 defense. That doesnít mean we donít need young talent, but an improved defense is vital to succeeding. If we do that mostly through FA, then draft offense, Iím okay with that. Even if pettine is a great coordinator, I still think expecting a major jump into the top 10 by this defense without adding fairly significant talent is a reach.

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    FYI a defensive play won the game, the fumble was key in last minutes

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    You need a well-rounded team. The Packers didn't have a defense that could win 21-17 or hold a team under 30 much of the time. The team needs more improvement on defense than offense. The Packers need about 4 LBs lol. Good depth. Then get an impact player in the secondary. Hopefully either in FA or draft. I think this team does need some aspects thrown in. I think this game showed that RBs in the passing game are big mismatches and Pack need to have one that is an impact in the passing game. TE that can split wide and make plays. Upgrades there and on the OL plus a WR. This team has plenty of holes, but you hit on a few picks and find a key FA or two and this team goes from border line playoffs to deep playoff run possiblity. Also lets not pretend teams don't regress. Almost all of the teams in the NFL minus the Pats have a 7-9 year where nothing goes right. The Pack aren't that far away although it feels like it sometimes with recent playoff disappointments and no-shows by the defense.

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    I would be fine with a draft like that.
    I know the saying is that Defense wins Championships but I think a really phenomenal offense and an average defense can win championships as well.

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    You know what canít win you a SB? Having Aaron Rodgers on the sidelines while your coaching staff is weak.

    Aaron will be back, and hopefully these changes we made at OC and DC make the difference to utilize our talent correctly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StickyGreenFan View Post
    FYI a defensive play won the game, the fumble was key in last minutes
    Caused by ROOKIE Derek Barnett.

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    Also man, imagine if Ty Montgomery was as useful as guys like James White and Corey Clement....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallzi43 View Post
    Caused by ROOKIE Derek Barnett.
    Recovered, not caused, by a rookie for what itís worth. And I think Barnett is a good example of what to expect out of a rookie. He played just under 50% of the eagles snaps on the year and they put him in a position where he was primarily a pass rusher and didnít have to worry about other responsibilities as much. If we draft someone like Landry, Iíd expect him to have a similar role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    Recovered, not caused, by a rookie for what itís worth. And I think Barnett is a good example of what to expect out of a rookie. He played just under 50% of the eagles snaps on the year and they put him in a position where he was primarily a pass rusher and didnít have to worry about other responsibilities as much. If we draft someone like Landry, Iíd expect him to have a similar role.
    Certainly what we need at this point. A guy that comes in as a primarily pass rush specialist. Matthews and Perry will be the main stables. Getting an athletic presence coming around the corner for 50% of the snaps in Pettines defense would be nice.

    fwiw, both Kiper and McShay now agree that Packers take Davenport at #14. Not that they are ever 100% correct on anything, especially when it has come to Green Bay's picks.

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    As far as what it takes to win a Super Bowl and what I took away from this season. It is that aggressive FA, Trading, and play calling wins Super Bowls.

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    Honestly, what I got out the superbowl (and really the whole playoffs) is how good of a job Doug Pedersen did adjusting his game plans to put his backup QB in a position to succeed vs what MM did for Hundley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugottabjoshinme View Post
    Honestly, what I got out the superbowl (and really the whole playoffs) is how good of a job Doug Pedersen did adjusting his game plans to put his backup QB in a position to succeed vs what MM did for Hundley.
    Pederson definitely did very well and heís looking like a top flight coach. But the talent difference between foles and Hundley is huge. Foles played crazy well. Pederson definitely had a part to play in that, no doubt, but foles was throwing dimes down the field, especially in that Vikings game.

    Pederson did a nice job of setting up some nice packaged plays that got foles some easy throws, but there were still plenty of times foles had to make some damn good throws. Like that ball to clement was a gem.

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    I think Hundley is crap personally but he wasnt exactly surrounded with the talent the Eagles have.

    They made moves in the offseason for talented guys and then even when their talent at HB was good they went out and traded for Ajayi. I mean, they werent ever just happy with the roster they had. Even though their roster was already capable of being good.

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