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    Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker, and Patty Mills

    Sorry for posting this here, but the Spurs forum is dead.

    So... Tony Parker has willing conceded his starting spot to Dejounte Murray.



    First, kudos to Parker for putting the team before his pride (something JR Smith certainly seems unwilling to due, despite his pay check).


    That said... am I missing something? Dejounte Murray? I haven't seen any Spurs games this to be honest, so I'm legit asking. I saw him a bit last year, but not enough to make any judgements. His per36 stats seemed promising last season (15/5/4 guy shooting killer 3's but turnover prone). I'm not sure what his level of defense is. I've honestly no clue as I've only seen limited play.


    This year, his stats are troubling. There is some serious regression. No 3pt shot. He's still turnover prone (though he has a better A/T ratio than last year) and while he is rebounding well for a PG, he's not really making plays or shooting well. Am I missing something here?

    Parker isn't shooting the 3-ball well, but he's still scoring efficiently. And he's the better play maker. Has he lost a serious step on defence?

    It seems that is Parker isn't going to start, or if the Spurs simply need him coming off the bench to bolster the reserves, that Patty Mills would be the logical choice in the starting line-up. Strong shooter, strong defender, decent play maker (not stellar, but certainly better than DeJounte).



    So... I guess this is a two parter. One.... who should the Spurs starting PG be (or rather, why should Dejounte Murray get the job). Two... what are your thoughts in general about vets as the age and their willingness to come off the bench. We see the Spurs with three former All-Stars (Parker, Manu, and Gay) coming off the bench. And around the league, we see guys like Wade willingly taking this step. But we also see guys like JR Smith making an issue out of it. Who has aged gracefully and been able to put their pride aside? Who hasn't? Presently or historically?
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    Parker admits he has hit the wall. He's not his old self and his efficiency is troubling. Offensive rating getting worse each month. Father time is undefeated and I think Pop just wants to try and groom the young guy.

    Vince Career is ultimate example of adapting game with age.

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    Presumably they are built to play through Kawhi first and Aldridge second. More playmaking and even more shooting is less necessary with the starters, and allows them to beat up on opposing benches. That would explain why Mills isn't starting. So between Parker and Murray, I think they are trying to save Parker's legs for the postseason. They can win with Murray starting, so it's less important to pull out all their guns all the time. Murray gets a trial run, Parker takes it easy and avoids injury, and they keep winning.

    They really should have signed George Hill, though.

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    What happened to the spurs forum!? Get more fans on here kdspurman, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol, please View Post
    What happened to the spurs forum!? Get more fans on here kdspurman, lol

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    I tried... It's a lost cause lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdspurman View Post
    I tried... It's a lost cause lol
    Such a great dynasty, class act of a team and cool area of Texas, should be more spurs fans than Lakers fans on here lol

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    Parker is still coming along slowly from his ruptured quad, though considering his age/mileage and that injury, he's looked good overall. Still some obvious rust and rhythm issues, but all things considered, the eye test shows he's got a little something left. And early on, he's looked good in his role off the bench.

    Murray has great size,.. 6'5 with a 7 foot wingspan, very good rebounder and above average defender. Where he struggles is the other side, ball/pace control, no jump shot, etc... When Parker came into the league, he couldn't shoot either, but he was damn near automatic in the paint. Murray doesn't have that capability yet, but he has shown some improvements since last year. Being only 21 , he's got another year or 2 to really make that leap. But he has all the physical tools to be something special. If he adapts the Kawhi Leonard work ethic, that could be fun to see.

    Mills is having a down year, he's been doing more traditional "PG" stuff, running P&R's, trying to get guys shots, etc... and he's struggled a bit in that role. His shooting has went down, and Pop alluded to that fact that he has some added responsibilities. As long as he can get into a shooting rhythm down the stretch of the season, he should be fine. With the slew of injuries and lineup changes, it's been tough for anyone to get into a consistent rhythm/flow, aside from Aldridge.

    After the all-star break, the hope is that everyone is back for the stretch run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol, please View Post
    Such a great dynasty, class act of a team and cool area of Texas, should be more spurs fans than Lakers fans on here lol

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    There used to be like 4 or 5 of us on here a few years ago lol. Most are on SpursTalk, and that place is kind of a hot mess

    Idk about having more Lakers fans though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdspurman View Post
    Parker is still coming along slowly from his ruptured quad, though considering his age/mileage and that injury, he's looked good overall. Still some obvious rust and rhythm issues, but all things considered, the eye test shows he's got a little something left. And early on, he's looked good in his role off the bench.

    Murray has great size,.. 6'5 with a 7 foot wingspan, very good rebounder and above average defender. Where he struggles is the other side, ball/pace control, no jump shot, etc... When Parker came into the league, he couldn't shoot either, but he was damn near automatic in the paint. Murray doesn't have that capability yet, but he has shown some improvements since last year. Being only 21 , he's got another year or 2 to really make that leap. But he has all the physical tools to be something special. If he adapts the Kawhi Leonard work ethic, that could be fun to see.

    Mills is having a down year, he's been doing more traditional "PG" stuff, running P&R's, trying to get guys shots, etc... and he's struggled a bit in that role. His shooting has went down, and Pop alluded to that fact that he has some added responsibilities. As long as he can get into a shooting rhythm down the stretch of the season, he should be fine. With the slew of injuries and lineup changes, it's been tough for anyone to get into a consistent rhythm/flow, aside from Aldridge.

    After the all-star break, the hope is that everyone is back for the stretch run.
    Thanks! Great insights!
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    I havenít watched a lot of Spurs this year but watched the Cavs game. Murray was creating for himself and getting his points off the dribble. Anderson looked pretty good to. He was the best option guarding James. He looked like a really good defender actually with his size.

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    All I know is Murray-Anderson-Bertans-Green are 80% of the starting lineup and the Spurs are still the #3 seed in the West. Popovich is the GOAT coach. The Belichick of the NBA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lol, please View Post
    Such a great dynasty, class act of a team and cool area of Texas, should be more spurs fans than Lakers fans on here lol

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    They have their own forum. Texans don't like to mingle with the rest of us clowns

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdspurman View Post
    There used to be like 4 or 5 of us on here a few years ago lol. Most are on SpursTalk, and that place is kind of a hot mess

    Idk about having more Lakers fans though.
    It was awesome back in the day when Laker fans trolled

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdspurman View Post
    There used to be like 4 or 5 of us on here a few years ago lol. Most are on SpursTalk, and that place is kind of a hot mess

    Idk about having more Lakers fans though.
    Jump over there and bring them back! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    All I know is Murray-Anderson-Bertans-Green are 80% of the starting lineup and the Spurs are still the #3 seed in the West. Popovich is the GOAT coach. The Belichick of the NBA.
    Can't speak too much on Murray, Green, or Anderson, but to me, Bertans has ATG type potential and I hope he ends up being a kind of Dirk for the Spurs, not as a #1 option nut just that elite, franchise player big who can carry the load if needed.



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