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  1. #1786
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    So weíve worked through your terrible wall logic and youíd like to deflect to your terrible trump logic. Very nice.

    Please explain how Obama and trump equate. Iíd love to hear it. Iíd love to hear about Obamaís university that he created to scam cash off of people, or how he used his charity money to pay fines for his business, or how he committed a felony in his election run, or how he walks in on teenage girls changing. Go ahead and list the women that have accused him of grabbing their crotch, molesting them in elevators, or violating them in any way. Tell me about the contractors that billionaire Obama simply didnít pay for their work because **** them right. This isnít hysteria, heís trash, and that has nothing to do with politics. Guy makes Bill look like a choir boy, and we barely scratched the surface.

    Trump didnít press NK, lol. Wtf He bluffed, blistered, and lied about the whole situation. He gave a dictator exactly what heís wanted for years in exchange for an agreement that we would denuclearize. Then was either too dishonest or too stupid to realize what heíd agreed to.

    Heís used this same bafoonish bluster when dealing with world leaders. He asked them for more money and they pointed and laughed at what weíd become. Heís a joke on the world stage, not a leader. But youíll fall for it, hook, line, and sinker so why not.

    Iíve seen him make my water and air dirtier. Iíve seen his tariffs hurt my local economy, and watched him scramble for relief packages to farmers that they wonít see in time to buy seed this year because he shut the government down to pander to racists and morons. Heís continued the tradition of the last 30 years of helping corporate America fleece the middle class and poor. Heís done all he could to strip health care from millions of people. We could keep going here for pages.

    Iím curious as to the positives. Two Supreme Court justices? Iím not talking about things you believe he did, or things he said he did, or all the fantastic things heís promised he would do. Iíd like to hear the tangible positive things he done for you.

    We've worked through my terrible wall logic?? Whaaa?? I really like how you are the arbiter of that conclusion. You do understand that simply repeating "walls don't work, walls don't work, walls don't work" isn't exactly providing a logical point right? To deny that a 30 foot high wouldn't be a highly effective security measure defies all basic security principles 101 classes employed by every state, country, government or private business who's ever wanted to protect something. Oh right though, you're a pro who bids cutting concrete columns that can be done in 5 minutes and people will just take a rope and climb over it........yes, that point of view just because it's in your head must absolutely make it a reality right? Please. You're feeding a narrative to which you've given zero actual thought process on what actually has to happen to breach it. You've offered rather quickly to add 300% to border agent budget for a problem you believe is manufactured and for a security level that isn't warranted. To deny that a 30 foot high wall in coordination with everything else layered on it is less effective than simply dropping more bodies on the border lines is again to defy all basic security principles and logic. Do you understand the actual physical shape a person has to be in in order to scale a 30 foot vertical structure? If the border agents held a party and offered free citizenship to anyone who could scale it and make it to the other side with fracturing their ankles it would STILL eliminate half the people breaching the border. Even with rope you have to be ninja warrior level fit for that to happen. Now do that with women and children too?? You've provided zero actual reasoned logic that it's not effective.......just this tired narrative along with a holier than though snark that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a buffoon. Tell ya what.....go to your local rock climb wall place......make a youtube video of you scaling a 30 foot wall and repel down without the foot peg blocks and I'll see your side of how simple it is. If hordes of migrants were going to be hauling gas saws across the open fields and breaching with ease undetected then I'll personally buy you DeWalt stock or whoever your demo saw manufacturer of choice is.

    The same on your world stage stuff..........the popular talking points......ahhhh, Trump is a baffoon on the world stage, were laughed at, KJU played him.......blah blah blah.......it's effing nonsense. There is not a shred of logic to that........you're regurgitating CNN talking points. Oh. "IIIII" fall for it hook, line and sinker? lol...is that supposed to make you right? Again, you've said nothing of any actual reasoned logic. But oh yes, the news clips showed me that people in Europe don't like Trump....the news showed me clips that other leaders aren't happy with him......oh, CNN made jokes about Trump dolls being flown? What does that prove? Zip, zero nada.....we've had a long history of our leaders walking so softly over there that we've been taken advantage of. So of course they aren't going to be happy...Tariff's and the like......what's the alternative? Continuing to say pretty please pretty please? C'mon man. The kindler gentler politically correct stuff doesn't work anymore. Politicians don't want to offend anyone to keep everyone happy..consequently nothing gets done at any level. You don't like Trump....guess what I don't like Trump either....but he's attempting to run this country like a business where politicians had it spiraling towards Socialism.

    You and I are on vastly different sides of these issues........the horse being beaten here isn't going to be resuscitated. I'm going to work now....................I mean SOMEONE has to pay for all this free stuff right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    We've worked through my terrible wall logic?? Whaaa?? I really like how you are the arbiter of that conclusion. You do understand that simply repeating "walls don't work, walls don't work, walls don't work" isn't exactly providing a logical point right? To deny that a 30 foot high wouldn't be a highly effective security measure defies all basic security principles 101 classes employed by every state, country, government or private business who's ever wanted to protect something. Oh right though, you're a pro who bids cutting concrete columns that can be done in 5 minutes and people will just take a rope and climb over it........yes, that point of view just because it's in your head must absolutely make it a reality right? Please. You're feeding a narrative to which you've given zero actual thought process on what actually has to happen to breach it. You've offered rather quickly to add 300% to border agent budget for a problem you believe is manufactured and for a security level that isn't warranted. To deny that a 30 foot high wall in coordination with everything else layered on it is less effective than simply dropping more bodies on the border lines is again to defy all basic security principles and logic. Do you understand the actual physical shape a person has to be in in order to scale a 30 foot vertical structure? If the border agents held a party and offered free citizenship to anyone who could scale it and make it to the other side with fracturing their ankles it would STILL eliminate half the people breaching the border. Even with rope you have to be ninja warrior level fit for that to happen. Now do that with women and children too?? You've provided zero actual reasoned logic that it's not effective.......just this tired narrative along with a holier than though snark that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a buffoon. Tell ya what.....go to your local rock climb wall place......make a youtube video of you scaling a 30 foot wall and repel down without the foot peg blocks and I'll see your side of how simple it is. If hordes of migrants were going to be hauling gas saws across the open fields and breaching with ease undetected then I'll personally buy you DeWalt stock or whoever your demo saw manufacturer of choice is.

    The same on your world stage stuff..........the popular talking points......ahhhh, Trump is a baffoon on the world stage, were laughed at, KJU played him.......blah blah blah.......it's effing nonsense. There is not a shred of logic to that........you're regurgitating CNN talking points. Oh. "IIIII" fall for it hook, line and sinker? lol...is that supposed to make you right? Again, you've said nothing of any actual reasoned logic. But oh yes, the news clips showed me that people in Europe don't like Trump....the news showed me clips that other leaders aren't happy with him......oh, CNN made jokes about Trump dolls being flown? What does that prove? Zip, zero nada.....we've had a long history of our leaders walking so softly over there that we've been taken advantage of. So of course they aren't going to be happy...Tariff's and the like......what's the alternative? Continuing to say pretty please pretty please? C'mon man. The kindler gentler politically correct stuff doesn't work anymore. Politicians don't want to offend anyone to keep everyone happy..consequently nothing gets done at any level. You don't like Trump....guess what I don't like Trump either....but he's attempting to run this country like a business where politicians had it spiraling towards Socialism.

    You and I are on vastly different sides of these issues........the horse being beaten here isn't going to be resuscitated. I'm going to work now....................I mean SOMEONE has to pay for all this free stuff right?
    There is no 30ft. wall and no one is proposing one at this point, but you are welcome to continue with that delusion. I donít know where you get this gas saw idea, a cordless saws-all does the job on the steel slats that we are talking about on the real world.

    The tangible things he done on the world stage are what? Point to them, actual accomplishments. They donít exist, which is why I get half a page of hyperbole as a response.

    You are aware that he canít just file bankruptcy over and over like he does with his businesses right? His business is selling his name, and heís turned both his and ours to ****. Itís nice that you donít like him, but itís odd that you trust him. My head is clouded by politics, but youíve put your trust in a known con-man and criminal. A guy with such good character that sneaks in on teenage girls changing. That where you put your trust and that says a hell a a lot more about you than me. Carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Where did I say a wall won't work? You are so heavily I fluenced by this garbage bias media that you just parrot whatever stupid crap they say regardless if it applies to me or not.

    And you AGAIN back up my point. Illegal immigration hasn't changed, yet peoples view on it has. That backs up what I'm saying, it's not about actual illegal immigration anymore. FYI, what changed is trumps racist rhetoric. Cmon man, that's a lob. This is why facades are bad, look at how much an effect its having on you.
    illegal immigration hasn't changed, and the only thing that has changed is now Trump wants something done. the other side in no way wants to agree with Donald Trump. it's why some in America have the opinions they do, that illegal immigration is fine just because Trump must be wrong on everything.






    it's hilarious to see the media reaction to when Nancy Pelosi wanted to postpone the State of the Union because of the government shutdown, and then when Trump postponed Nancy Pelosi's trip because of the same thing.



    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    illegal immigration hasn't changed, and the only thing that has changed is now Trump wants something done. the other side in no way wants to agree with Donald Trump. it's why some in America have the opinions they do, that illegal immigration is fine just because Trump must be wrong on everything.


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    OK, I kinda don't get your point anymore. You keep making statements which back up my comment, yet you're saying it in a way as though it contradicts it.

    Like I said, it's not about immigration, it's about pro trump anti trump, pro mawa anti mawa, it's not about actual illegal immigration.

    It sounds like we are in agreement..
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