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  1. #1
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    Question Top 5 PG All-Time: GO!

    My list:

    1.Johnson
    2. Curry
    3. Thomas
    4. Nash
    5. Robertson

    Runner ups:
    Payton
    Stockton
    Paul (I hate Paul so it took a lot to add him here)

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    Jesus Christ, dude. Curry at 2nd and Paul at 8th? Do you have any idea how to have an objective opinion on NBA players?

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    Just trust me, Hou wont make it all the way to the WCF 😉
    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Houston may make the WCF again, but barring injuries they are no longer a serious threat this year imo.

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    My list would look something like:

    1. Magic
    2. Oscar
    3. Paul
    4. Curry
    5. Stockton
    6. Zeke
    7. Nash
    8. Kidd
    9. Frazier
    10. Payton

    Quote Originally Posted by numba1CHANGsta View Post
    Just trust me, Hou wont make it all the way to the WCF 😉
    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Houston may make the WCF again, but barring injuries they are no longer a serious threat this year imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    My list would look something like:

    1. Magic
    2. Oscar
    3. Paul
    4. Curry
    5. Stockton
    6. Zeke
    7. Nash
    8. Kidd
    9. Frazier
    10. Payton
    roughly this. flip zeke and kidd for me. might have walt ahead of zeke. curry will move up 5-10 years down the line.

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    Magic
    Oscar
    Stockton
    Paul
    Curry
    Nash
    Kidd

    I think Curry moves up to 2/3 by end of his career.

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    Chalmers
    LeBron
    Magic
    Oscar
    Paul
    Zeke
    Stockton
    Nash
    Kidd
    Westbrook
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    Top 5 in terms of who is actually the best (i.e. if they were all at their peak and were in a draft who would I want on my team):

    1. Magic
    2. Curry
    3. Big O
    4. CP3

    After that I'd have guys like Stockton, Nash, Zeke, Kidd, Payton and Frazier on roughly the same plane (i.e. I would take one of them over the other depending on the rest of the team's construction).

    I would also have to give strong consideration to Penny, Arenas and Rose just after them (or maybe even ahead of some depending on circumstances).

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    In before Lonzo, Ben Simmons, or Giannis mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone:32079221
    My list would look something like:

    1. Magic
    2. Oscar
    3. Paul
    4. Curry
    5. Stockton
    6. Zeke
    7. Nash
    8. Kidd
    9. Frazier
    10. Payton
    Argument for Paul over Stockton?


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    1. Dylan
    2. Dylan
    3. Dylan
    4. Dylan
    5. Dylan

    Hot fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    Argument for Paul over Stockton?
    Other than him simply being the better and more impactful player?

    That's the problem with anyone who tries to do these things, they never specify if it's by accolades or ability.

    I am tempted to begin a Top 25 all-time list based purely on their actual ability and see how the results differ from an accolades based list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Other than him simply being the better and more impactful player?

    That's the problem with anyone who tries to do these things, they never specify if it's by accolades or ability.

    I am tempted to begin a Top 25 all-time list based purely on their actual ability and see how the results differ from an accolades based list.
    Do it.
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    So no one else is going to put Chalmers?
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    1. Lonzo
    2. Lamelo
    3. Liangelo
    4. Chalmers
    5. Mike James
    5-tied. Lavar

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    Argument for Paul over Stockton?
    Statistically Paul is the superior player, and it's not that close. I'll give Stockton the edge as a pure point guard in terms of passing and assist numbers. But I'll take Paul at pretty much everything else. Stockton was slightly more efficient at scoring, but his scoring numbers and usage pale in comparison to Paul. Stockton topped 16 PPG three times in 19 seasons. Paul has done in 12 times in 13 years. And pretty much every advanced statistic on the planet says Paul is the statistically superior player: PER, WS, WS/48, VORP, BPM, ORTG, etc.

    If we measure accolades, Paul already has eight All-NBA teams compared to Stockton's 11, but Paul made All-NBA 1st team four times compared to only twice for Stockton. Paul also has nine All-Defensive appearances compared to five for Stockton, and Paul finished top 10 in MVP voting seven times compared to five times for Stockton.

    And unlike with some other point guards, Stockton really doesn't have a major edge in postseason resume over Paul. In fact, he's known as much for his failures in the playoffs as CP3 is, and unlike Paul, he played with another top 25 player his entire career. So really the only barometers by which we could give Stockton an edge is as a passer and in terms of longevity. But I'm judging by pretty much any other criteria, Chris Paul is the superior player in an all-time discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by numba1CHANGsta View Post
    Just trust me, Hou wont make it all the way to the WCF 😉
    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Houston may make the WCF again, but barring injuries they are no longer a serious threat this year imo.

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