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  1. #616
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    Some notes I picked up from the Herald.
    - Looking closely at Carlson from Auburn and Piniero from UF to be our next kicker.
    - Fins really like Justin Reid from Stanford who's a safety. But he's more of a 2nd round pick.
    - In regards to QB's The Dolphins are closely studying quarterbacks who could be available on the second day of the draft, and draftnik Simon Clancy notes Miami met with Washington State’s Luke Falk at his Pro Day and will attend a session with him on March 28. Falk, Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph and perhaps Louisville’s Lamar Jackson are among QB options on the second day of the draft. Dolphins have told people they’re open to finding their backup quarterback in the draft, if it’s possible. And the Brock Osweiler signing doesn’t change that. Osweiler is by no means assured of making the roster, let alone being Ryan Tannehill’s backup. Incidentally, Pro Football Focus said Osweiler was the second worst of 39 qualifying quarterbacks last year, ranked 38th overall and ahead of only Blaine Gabbert.
    - Fins attended Georgia pro-day heavily, lots of eyes on Roquan Smith on defense and Nick Chubb and Sony Michel at RB.

    I don't know about you, but seems like we're really targeting several players in the 2nd-3rd round range... this to me screams trade down, but we shall see. Could also mean we trade our 3rd and a 4th to try getting back into the 2nd round late if someone drops.
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    Ok so just in case everyone hasn't seen it yet, Osweiler is nothing but a worst case scenario backup. They obviously have Fales and Doughty and are still interested in drafting one. Brock is purely there because he's been a basckup most of his career and probably knows how to operate the scout team week to week.

    The plan is to probably draft a QB if he drops in the 1st, or draft a developmental guy in the 3rd or 4th like Mike White or Luke Falk. The rookie would be inactive most of the time and Brock or someone else will be the backup. If an injury to Tannehill happened expect the rookie to get a look soon after.

    Or if everything goes poorly in the draft and they don't have someone they like, then you have 3 QBs competing for the backup spot.

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    Suh is going to the Rams for 1 year at 14 mil. That dline is nasty and Suh is making 40 mil this year.

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    Hey guys, didnt know where to put this comment but on espn i looked over a power ranking which has us ranked dead last. WOW. Dont know if being a dolphin fan has me blind or what not, but are we really the worse team? I know we have let go of a lot of talent and although older replacements have come in return i think we have managed the situation quite well. What are your thoughts ? Thanks and once again sorry if i wasnt suppose to talk about this in this forum but i decided to write it, here since it was cause of offseason moves we made that probabl has us ranked last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilez15 View Post
    Hey guys, didnt know where to put this comment but on espn i looked over a power ranking which has us ranked dead last. WOW. Dont know if being a dolphin fan has me blind or what not, but are we really the worse team? I know we have let go of a lot of talent and although older replacements have come in return i think we have managed the situation quite well. What are your thoughts ? Thanks and once again sorry if i wasnt suppose to talk about this in this forum but i decided to write it, here since it was cause of offseason moves we made that probabl has us ranked last.
    I mean, we finished 6-10 last year and I actually think we're a better team now than we were last year.

    Tannehill is going to be back and will be a significant upgrade on Cutler. (yes I'm making the assumption he makes a clean recovery from his ACL tear).
    We lost Landry and Ajayi and they were great, no doubt. But supposedly Gase was sick of them not running the plays how they were supposed to. I don't think we're better by replacing Ajayi with Gore, although Drake showed last year how you're supposed to run and he had the best elusive rating in the NFL those 5 weeks. So let's just say even at RB but I think the added depth at WR will allow more looks and less force feeding Landry and Wilson is faster than Landry so I think we're actually better at WR. We got Quinn but lost Suh. Think that's a downgrade and we need some DT depth. However we get McMillan back and old man Timmons is gone. Upgrade. Lippett is back and our young CBs are developing and McDonald will have more time in our scheme, so also upgrade. We also signed Kilgore and Sitton and lost Pouncey (amen), so I think that's a huge upgrade. Overall other than DT, we got better. I'm obviously not saying we're a playoff team, but if we could finish 6-10 last year with Cutlets, we can finish 7-9 or 8-8 with this team which is what I expect. No way we're worse than Cardinals, Giants, Jets, Colts... as of now Browns should also be worse, but they have a loaded draft so they could be sick.
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    Perfect. Thats exactly what i thought. When i saw we were ranked dead last i had to come and post here to get someone else input because i was like how the hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRizzle View Post
    I mean, we finished 6-10 last year and I actually think we're a better team now than we were last year.

    Tannehill is going to be back and will be a significant upgrade on Cutler. (yes I'm making the assumption he makes a clean recovery from his ACL tear).
    We lost Landry and Ajayi and they were great, no doubt. But supposedly Gase was sick of them not running the plays how they were supposed to. I don't think we're better by replacing Ajayi with Gore, although Drake showed last year how you're supposed to run and he had the best elusive rating in the NFL those 5 weeks. So let's just say even at RB but I think the added depth at WR will allow more looks and less force feeding Landry and Wilson is faster than Landry so I think we're actually better at WR. We got Quinn but lost Suh. Think that's a downgrade and we need some DT depth. However we get McMillan back and old man Timmons is gone. Upgrade. Lippett is back and our young CBs are developing and McDonald will have more time in our scheme, so also upgrade. We also signed Kilgore and Sitton and lost Pouncey (amen), so I think that's a huge upgrade. Overall other than DT, we got better. I'm obviously not saying we're a playoff team, but if we could finish 6-10 last year with Cutlets, we can finish 7-9 or 8-8 with this team which is what I expect. No way we're worse than Cardinals, Giants, Jets, Colts... as of now Browns should also be worse, but they have a loaded draft so they could be sick.
    it all depends. on paper, right now, we are worse. our defense was garbage last year and we just lost our best defensive player in Suh. And if we take a player that doesn't help us this year (Mayfield), as opposed to Vea, Roquan Smith or Edmunds, then our overall team talent that is on the field every Sunday will be minimized.

    If we can get through TC without any injuries, then I think we will finish bottom third of the league. I don't think we will be a great team next year.

    I think our offense (with a healthy Tannehill) will be alot better, but our defense I think will be shredded again.

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    All just my opinion, based on what I watch and have read, which honestly is a little less than it used to be. Still, here is what I think, if anyone is interested (and if not, that's okay too ). Losing Landry might actually help. He was Tannehill's security blanket so if nothing else he will be forced to grow. The rate and degree to which he grows is what I think determines our season. Losing Pouncey will help especially in the locker room. He is a cancer and Sitton is the exact opposite. He will demand the most out of the line and I am excited. I think our run game could be very good as long as we can threaten downfield even adequately. Which brings us to the following...

    My big question is whether or not Tannehill can run this offense. He isn't good at post-snap reads and making quick decisions. If the many receiving options that are available to him can be diagnosed pre snap, he should be fine because he will prepare. The only problem is certain defenses that can give you multiple plays out of one look. Also, he does not challenge a defense very well. On third and long you need a QB that can bail you out at a reasonable rate, especially later in games with everything on the line. These moments are exactly when Tannehill is at his worst historically. Will that change? I don't see how. He should be an upgrade to a semi-retired announcer, but I think in a QB driven league, unless you put together an absolute juggernaut on both sides of the ball you have a 6-9 win QB. No reason to believe we will put together a juggernaut anytime soon. Our defense benefits from McMillan coming back and Lippett was improving before he got hurt. Will Howard put together a season based on that Patriots game and the last half of the season? If so, we may be able to hang in some games for a while, assuming Wake is able to be given rests and stays healthy and disruptive. I can live without Suh, as long as our DT's can hold up against the run. I'm happy to see the focal point of our defense move away from DT. Just not meant to be an impact position and you should not be built that way IMO. Too much money at the wrong spot.
    Now, draft me a QB! I don't care if it means we wallow for another year at 6 wins instead of 7 or 8. It's time to take a step forward and this is our best chance for probably the next couple of years. Time to put together a plan based on 3-5 years instead of selling us on being "competitive" each year. Show some guts and make a move.
    I do not think we are the worst team in the league, but if a couple of things go wrong we could be bottom 5. I also think we could be in the top half if some things go well. For example, can we manufacture some pressure on QB's other than relying on Wake. I can see some CB / S blitzes. We have to have the guts to gamble from time to time. Can Gase find a way other than throwing players under the bus in the media to get to his guys? Because that is a dangerous game he is playing and I think another year of that loses the team. If players need to be blamed, correct it or bench them. A lot can happen either way. That's why we have to play the games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilez15 View Post
    Hey guys, didnt know where to put this comment but on espn i looked over a power ranking which has us ranked dead last. WOW. Dont know if being a dolphin fan has me blind or what not, but are we really the worse team? I know we have let go of a lot of talent and although older replacements have come in return i think we have managed the situation quite well. What are your thoughts ? Thanks and once again sorry if i wasnt suppose to talk about this in this forum but i decided to write it, here since it was cause of offseason moves we made that probabl has us ranked last.
    One thing that you'll come to realize, is that the media has a HUGE bias against the Dolphins. I don't know why that is, but they seriously HATE on us soooo often. No matter what we do, everyone on ESPN/NFL Network/etc... has to come out of the woodwork to say how stupid the move is and how we are destined for catastrophe. I've just come to expect the worse from the media; if you listen to them, you will be depressed all the time.

    I agree that we are managing the situation just fine. Tannehill should be solid in his return to the team (where he was a middle of the pack QB in the NFL). He will be playing behind a more seasoned and arguably better offensive line (HUGE plus for the entire offense). We lost Landry, but added two versatile receivers that should be able to replace his production (and it could be argued that they improve the team because they won't be a "distraction" on the field or off...and may enable Gase to better run his game plan due to improved route running). We will need to improve at TE, but to be fair, we pretty much sucked at the position last year too...we will HIGHLY likely be adding a stud pretty early on in the draft. Drake has shown that he can be the man and if we draft a solid additional back for depth to go with Gore, then our running game could be even better. All in all, I say that by start of the season, our offense should at least be better than last season.

    Where we will potentially get the worst marks is on defense. The biggest hole created was with the lost of Suh...that will be a big one to fill of course. I still think that we are solid at the position, but could draft one early. If Mayfield/Rosen and Roquan/Edmunds are off the board, then I believe that we'll take the best available DT at 11 (especially if we find a way to trade back). Our secondary should be healthy and another year improved (and our sights are set on a true free safety in the draft potentially). With McMillan coming back, we should be getting younger and more athletic at LB. If we were to add Roquan or Edmunds in the first, then our starting LB core could be one of the better ones in the league.

    I know there are a lot of ifs and maybes in the previous paragraphs, but they are still quite realistic IMO. We absolutely could be a better team than last year; it's only negative thinking that would bring you to any other conclusion I believe. I'm not saying that we are playoff-bound; hell, we might be a 500 team again (surprise surprise). But there will be teams worse than us next year; I guarantee it. To put us as "the worst team in the NFL" is just absurd. Just ask the Patriots if we looked like the worst team in the league last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilez15 View Post
    Hey guys, didnt know where to put this comment but on espn i looked over a power ranking which has us ranked dead last. WOW. Dont know if being a dolphin fan has me blind or what not, but are we really the worse team? I know we have let go of a lot of talent and although older replacements have come in return i think we have managed the situation quite well. What are your thoughts ? Thanks and once again sorry if i wasnt suppose to talk about this in this forum but i decided to write it, here since it was cause of offseason moves we made that probabl has us ranked last.
    ESPN thinks Landry is a top 10 WR and Pouncey is still an elite C. We got rid of our biggest names this off season so of course they're going to have us lower. Their analysis is basically "they replaced Landry with a guy that got 42 catches last year? That's stupid! Lol they're so dumb" without actually looking at the players or their fit.

    Although the funniest thing is they'll say Suh didn't play well for us and say how much better he looks on the Rams purely because they're winning.

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    Gase had his breakfast interview today so here's a few highlites. I'm gonna link Armandos full recap below but these were the attention getters.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...206947094.html

    The game plan for the offense is to spread the ball around. Don't expect to see one guy getting 100 catches like Landry did last year.

    Amendola will fit into the Wes Walker role Gase had in Denver.

    Doesn't have a set role for Gore but wants to spread the ball around between him and Drake.

    He mentioned Tannehill will be ready for OTAs but he's not going to push it and let him do his own thing right now. But he did mention they need Tannehill to play well. He also looking at everything as an improvement this off season mainly because "we got our QB back"

    "I'd like to get a QB as much as anybody else," but he admits they won't force the pick to just get a QB. They will only take their guy. Mentioned how he and Mayfield are very similar in personality.

    The biggest thing is that he mentioned that the Safety duo didn't work out the way they wanted it to. He's definetly looking for improvement from that area (which means my dream of Derwin James is still alive)

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    With only winning 6 games and losing Suh and Landry and a QB coming back with a major knee injury would leave anyone skeptical. While my confidence is not high for us to have a good season there is always at least 1 surprise team every season. Before last season did anyone think the Bills would make the playoffs? Did anyone think the Eagles would be a super bowl contender?

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    I like the way the offense looks right now, even without a true starting caliber TE1 on the roster. I think that with a healthy Tannehill, and a full year of Tunsil at LT last year, the offense will move the ball better and score points. The OL looks so much better on paper than last year.

    But our defense . . . WOOF!

    I like that we resigned Hayes cause he will be the pass rushing DT we kind of lacked last year. Quinn is a clear upgrade at DE, but Branch and Harris can't be trusted to be a true DE1 or DE2 yet, and Cam, at this stage, is a pure pass rushing specialist only. If we're sticking with this wide-9 BS, then I guess quantity over quality at DT makes sense, so you can keep guys rotating and fresh throughout the game. I think Godcheaux has a decent future for us though. solid later round pick.

    I believe that Howard is a true CB1 for us. I love him. Lippett and Tank I'm still on the fence with.

    My main concerns are at LBer where MacMillan is more a run-stopping tackle machine, not a guy that can stay with a TE or RB in coverage. Kiko was asked to do way too much, so he should be better if MacMillan is healthy. I do like Anthony's speed, but I don't know if I want him starting. Right now, we have noone in the LB core that can be consistent in coverage, and that worries me.

    Pre-draft, I don't think we're the 32 ranked roster right now, but I wouldn't put us above #25 in the rankings.

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    Defense is a concern but not nearly as much as people think it is. If the offense performs better, which i think it will after the additions and a healthy Tannehill, the offense will actually play with a lead. Plus the idea of a lot of younger players getting more time will help. Harris was by far the most disruptive DE we had the last few weeks of the season which is fantastic news. McMillan is a stud run defender and better than people give him credit for at coverage (better than Kiko for sure). Howard was terrible until the end of the season but if he keeps that up him and Tankersley plays like he did last year and we'll be fine at CB. I don't know how people don't see that Tank was easily our best CB until he got hurt. It wasn't even close.

    Defense doesn't need as much as people think. You really only need one more starter and youre fine. Coverage LB that can disengage from blocks, better Safety/pass rush play, and consistent CB play is all the defense needs.

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    I'm going to lay out a scenario where we can fill all of our holes and compete and make the playoffs. Are we going to? Do I expect us to? Absolutely not. But I see solutions and upgrades to everything and if we could manage to go 6-10 with that team, you never know.

    QB - Cutler to Tannehill - Big upgrade
    RB - Ajayi/Drake/Damian to Drake/Gore/Rookie (4th or 5th round pick - Mark Walton pretty please) - depends how you look at it, Gase thinks upgrade. I actually really like Gore and his vision and durability but this is even at best. Excited to see Drake and who else we draft. Even.
    TE - Julius Thomas gone - addition by subtraction. Need to address this with 2nd (Mark Andrews) or 3rd round pick at worst. Could sign a cheap good blocker like Dion Sims or bring Fasano back. JT was so bad this is an upgrade no matter who we draft, can't be worse. Upgrade.
    WR- lost Landry brought in Albert Wilson and Amendola. Amendola creates tons of separation and space and Albert Wilson can play on the outside far better than Landry to stretch the field and he's also better with YAC. Upgrade.
    O-Line - Pouncey (awful) gone and Kilgore (top 10 C with Jimmy G last year) and Probowl Sitton added. James and Tunsil continue to get better and develop. Ted Larsen back from torn biceps also. Jessie Davis and Sam Young also developing. Draft an O-Line prospect to develop with Asiata in the 5th-7th round range. Big upgrade.

    DT's - Lost Suh. Sign Hankins for 7M. Would help fix any run defense issues but he doesn't pressure QB at all. Rotate Hayes at DT at times. Maybe draft another DT. Downgrade.
    DE - Lost Fede and Wake a year older. Added Quinn. Hayes healthy and Harris developing. Branch should have less snaps with Harris Quinn Wake Hayes around. Upgrade.
    LB - Timmons gone. Draft Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds. McMillan back from injury. Stephone Anthony developing. Big upgrade.
    CB/S - Maxwell cut during season and Nate Allen gone. Lippett back from injury. Tank showed promise and Howard turned it on late in the year. Bobby McCain showed glimpses. Draft another CB, Gase and Tannebaum love adding CBs. 4th round. Have their eye on FS prospects in 2nd or 3rd but think we need to take TE there and CB. If we don't draft a pure FS, sign Tre Boston, great coverage skills. TJ can be a movable chess piece and place more like a LB in 3 safety looks and matchup with RB/TE. Upgrade.

    Draft Carlson or Piniero in the 6th or 7th for kicker.

    And that's that. Think it's a vast improvement to our roster from last year. Fix LB and TE as priority in draft. Depth for RB/DB (safety and CB)/ OT prospect / kicker in draft. Sign Hankins and Tre Boston. Getting back important players from injury. Just saying. If all that happens and RT and Gase click and some things fall our way... never know. Why not?
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