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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    So my disagreement with this take is that then you really only end up with rookie coaches and rookie gm's being the ones without mistakes to correct. Just because he made a mistake in the past doesn't mean he didn't do a great job this year. Heck some could point to Loomis blowing a few drafts and he shouldn't be executive of the year.

    This just leads to a slippery slope to exclude guys because of something that happened before.

    Using that logic Bill Belichick should never be COTY because of what happened in Cleveland.
    Belichick isn't currently in the process of fixing mistakes he made in Cleveland.

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    Kinda surprised Zimmer isn't getting more props here. Likely going to be 13-3 with a back up QB for the majority of the season. Defense is #1 overall in football. #1 in points allowed. Wins over 2 division NFC division leaders. If the standings finish as they currently are the Vikings are 4-2 against playoff qualifiers.

    The Eagles haven't looked as good with Foles. Zimmer's D held McVay's dominant offense to 7 points in a convincing win. I don't think he wins it but his resume is just as good as anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Kinda surprised Zimmer isn't getting more props here. Likely going to be 13-3 with a back up QB for the majority of the season. Defense is #1 overall in football. #1 in points allowed. Wins over 2 division NFC division leaders. If the standings finish as they currently are the Vikings are 4-2 against playoff qualifiers.

    The Eagles haven't looked as good with Foles. Zimmer's D held McVay's dominant offense to 7 points in a convincing win. I don't think he wins it but his resume is just as good as anyone else.
    Eagles offense looked bad in 1 game with Foles in cold conditions and extreme wind gusts. Minnys offense looked equally as bad against GB.

    Foles looked great against NY and good against STL in a quarter and a half.

    For me it’s a 3 man race with McVay, Pederson, and Zimmer. Still feel what Pederson has done is more impressive given he’s done it with his guys, rather than McVay who is operating with Fischer’s players for the most part.

    Funny that the playoffs will consist of 3 former Fischer QBs that he was unable to do anything with: Foles, Goff, and Keenum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    Who is your NFL head coach of the year?
    As an Eagles fan, I would say that a lot of consideration would have to be given to Doug Pederson. The Eagles have gone from 7-9 last year to 13-2 so far this year - but of course there are other candidates.
    1. Sean McVay
    2. Doug Marrone
    3. Doug Pederson
    4. Mike Zimmer

    I have Doug pederson currently sitting 3rd in coach of the year. Doug Marrone took a 3-13 Jags team to a 10-5 division winner. Sean McVay took a 4-12 rams team to currently at 11-4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Eagles offense looked bad in 1 game with Foles in cold conditions and extreme wind gusts. Minnys offense looked equally as bad against GB.

    Foles looked great against NY and good against STL in a quarter and a half.

    For me it’s a 3 man race with McVay, Pederson, and Zimmer. Still feel what Pederson has done is more impressive given he’s done it with his guys, rather than McVay who is operating with Fischer’s players for the most part.

    Funny that the playoffs will consist of 3 former Fischer QBs that he was unable to do anything with: Foles, Goff, and Keenum.
    In any other year I think Pederson wins, but a 31 year old hot shot coach winning a division title with a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in over a decade? Yeah that's too good of a story to pass up.

    Certainly Zimmer deserves credit too, but the Vikings were expected to have a dominant defense and make the playoffs.

    Sean Payton deserves some recognition as well considering nobody thought much of the Saints and have been one of the best teams in the league.

    Hell even Sean McDermott deserves some attention if the Bills find a way to make the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22 View Post
    In any other year I think Pederson wins, but a 31 year old hot shot coach winning a division title with a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in over a decade? Yeah that's too good of a story to pass up.

    Certainly Zimmer deserves credit too, but the Vikings were expected to have a dominant defense and make the playoffs.

    Sean Payton deserves some recognition as well considering nobody thought much of the Saints and have been one of the best teams in the league.

    Hell even Sean McDermott deserves some attention if the Bills find a way to make the playoffs.
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    The Vikings have the #1 scoring defense and a top 10 scoring offense. If this stands it would only be the 27th time in NFL history. All that with Case Keenum as the QB. IMO it’s McVay, Zimmer, and Pederson in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Eagles offense looked bad in 1 game with Foles in cold conditions and extreme wind gusts. Minnys offense looked equally as bad against GB.

    Foles looked great against NY and good against STL in a quarter and a half.

    For me it’s a 3 man race with McVay, Pederson, and Zimmer. Still feel what Pederson has done is more impressive given he’s done it with his guys, rather than McVay who is operating with Fischer’s players for the most part.

    Funny that the playoffs will consist of 3 former Fischer QBs that he was unable to do anything with: Foles, Goff, and Keenum.
    Fischer’s players? McVay is credited for building an elite offense. The Rams added Andrew Whitworth in free agency, arguably the best free agent signing. Signed Robert Woods. Traded for Sammy Watkins. Drafted Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee. Outside of Gurley the Rams completely revamped Goff’s weapons. These are McVay’s players.
    2018 Vikings Draft :
    Round 1: Mike Hughes CB UCF
    Round 2: Brian O'Neill OT Pittsburgh
    Round 4: Jalyn Holmes DE Ohio State
    Round 5: Tyler Conklin TE Central Michigan
    Round 5: Daniel Carlson K Auburn
    Round 6: Colby Gossett G Appalachian State
    Round 6: Ade Aruna DE Tulane
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Fischer’s players? McVay is credited for building an elite offense. The Rams added Andrew Whitworth in free agency, arguably the best free agent signing. Signed Robert Woods. Traded for Sammy Watkins. Drafted Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee. Outside of Gurley the Rams completely revamped Goff’s weapons. These are McVay’s players.
    You named a few additions, albeit good ones, still primarily a group of guys Fischer left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    The Vikings have the #1 scoring defense and a top 10 scoring offense. If this stands it would only be the 27th time in NFL history. All that with Case Keenum as the QB. IMO it’s McVay, Zimmer, and Pederson in order.
    Only the 27th time. Is this a joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    Only the 27th time. Is this a joke?
    I had the same thought when reading that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Fischer’s players? McVay is credited for building an elite offense. The Rams added Andrew Whitworth in free agency, arguably the best free agent signing. Signed Robert Woods. Traded for Sammy Watkins. Drafted Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee. Outside of Gurley the Rams completely revamped Goff’s weapons. These are McVay’s players.
    Pederson has literally done the exact same thing that McVay has done. Difference being that the Rams haven't reached the postseason in over a decade which is why he will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Fischer’s players? McVay is credited for building an elite offense. The Rams added Andrew Whitworth in free agency, arguably the best free agent signing. Signed Robert Woods. Traded for Sammy Watkins. Drafted Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee. Outside of Gurley the Rams completely revamped Goff’s weapons. These are McVay’s players.
    Not sure what's noteworthy about Higbee. Whitworth, Woods, Watkins and Kupp were good additions. How many players of impact does the average team add in one year? Speaking of the Eagles, that would be Jeffery, Darby, Robinson, Ajayi, Blount, Long, Foles. (7)

    The Rams aren't just the offense, they also have a very good defense and arguably the best special teams in the league. Those were obviously assembled by Fisher. The most important player on offense, Gurley, is a Fisher pick, too. I remember some people laughed at the pick when it was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22 View Post
    Pederson has literally done the exact same thing that McVay has done. Difference being that the Rams haven't reached the postseason in over a decade which is why he will win.
    Basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    Only the 27th time. Is this a joke?
    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I had the same thought when reading that.
    Well let's see here. Since the AFL/NFL merger, there have been at least 26 active NFL teams. 47 seasons. You're looking at well over 1,000 different teams. And that isn't even counting the seasons prior to the merger. On average happens about once every 2 years. Pretty obvious it's a difficult to pull off.
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