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  1. #1
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    Eli Apple, the little B****

    http://www.northjersey.com/videos/sp...ice/108602846/

    This is right after Landon Collins supported him even though he could of easily thrown him under the bus. Landon mention that he talked to him and try to be a leader to him and Apple denied making the situation awkward

    Landon Collins today on Eli Apple’s claim he hasn’t spoke to him to try and help him: “I guess he don’t remember things.”
    It’s time to get rid of this POS

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantsSwaGG View Post
    http://www.northjersey.com/videos/sp...ice/108602846/

    This is right after Landon Collins supported him even though he could of easily thrown him under the bus. Landon mention that he talked to him and try to be a leader to him and Apple denied making the situation awkward



    It’s time to get rid of this POS
    https://nypost.com/2017/12/14/what-a...-apple-around/

    I wonder where the Eli Apple apologist brigade are. He is going to end up being a bigger bust than Flowers.

    If anyone ever wonder why the Giants are in this current predicament all you have to do is look at the back to back 1st round busts in Flowers and Apple. No a lot of teams would be able to overcome that.

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    I really can't stand this dude. I knew he was a bust 4 games into his rookie season. Always wondered how people could say he had a "solid" rookie year. Dude has been straight trash since his first game. Dump this loser for a 6th rounder to NE and let them work on him. Some people think Odell is a locker room distraction? This loser is already a cancer to our team not even 2 years into him being drafted. Shouldn't wait to throw out the trash, it can build up and get messier and messier. I have a new appreciation for this team after they dumped macadouche and reese. Apple is next, give up and move on.

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    I still can’t forget how pedestrian he looked on Robert Woods’ 3rd & 32 td catch. Not even bothering to tackle him, like he didn’t want to be part of a TD saving play.

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    What makes me wanna puke(amongst other things about Apple) is that, retrospectively, any of the half of dozen players drafted after him would’ve been a better selection for us at #10. Thanks Jerry Reach for drafting a technique flawed headcase who had a habit for excessively holding guys in college. Instead of taking Tunsil, Hargreaves or practically ANY other player fans had on their minds at that #10, Reese drafted a guy who was projected by nearly every analyst and scout to go in the 20s. Some even said that the only way he was a top 15 pick is if he had stayed another year in college.

    Crazy thing is that since 2009, there have been some really good or promising Buckeye defensive backs drafted in the first two rounds (Malcolm Jenkins, Bradley Roby, Vonn Bell, Marshon Lattimore, Malik Hooker, Gareon Conley). And we unfortunately end up with what could be the biggest bust CB to come out of OSU in the last decade. To think he’s the highest drafted DB to come out of that program since Donte Whitner back in 2006!
    Last edited by Armo_NYG_fan; 12-15-2017 at 01:00 PM.

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    To be fair Tunsil and Hardgraves sucks

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    When you reach for guys with the number 10 pick, you better end up with a Pro Bowler. Otherwise, there's no legitimate reason to be reaching the way Reese did. And when you end up with a bust like Apple, well, you get fired because your team could be so much better if you just had some sense.

    Don't worry. He's got this.

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    Apple strikes me as the type of player who’s terrible and then goes to the Pats and Belichick makes a star out of him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Apple strikes me as the type of player who’s terrible and then goes to the Pats and Belichick makes a star out of him.


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    I'm willing to look back in the draft thread but i know i didn't like the Draft pick
    I never know who to trust when a college defense is so stacked they have multiple players projected at top 60 players. I.E the Pass rush is so good because of coverage or the coverage is so good because of the pass rush..

    When Von Bell was talked up so much i though the CB were a product of always having deep help.

    I think he wasn't ready for the NY market and is a Prince 2.0

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    What's wrong with Eli Apple?

    That has emerged as the prevailing question from a chaotic Giants season rife with drama. Apple has clashed with the coaching staff, sniped with teammates and nearly bolted from the team's facility after he was criticized in a film session. The 10th pick in the 2016 draft was benched for four weeks for reasons that remain murky. And all the while, teammates have been whispering about his immaturity, wondering if Apple's reputation soon will put him on the street .


    Apple has become the poster child for what has gone wrong this season - the link between the head coach and general manager who were fired: A disgruntled player who was one of the first to publicly complain about Ben McAdoo, who eventually lost the locker room, and an under-performing first-round pick, who highlighted Jerry Reese's draft failures.

    So, how did Apple get to this point after starting 11 games at cornerback for a playoff team as a rookie? Multiple people close to the situation told NJ Advance Media that strife in Apple's family, particularly an abrupt falling out with his stepfather Tim Apple, has led to the Voorhees native going off track.

    "One of the biggest reasons Eli is declining so much this year as opposed to last year is (Tim's absence)," Apple's half-brother Dane Blackson told NJ Advance Media. "I know everyone always talks about the fame and all of the attention and how all of that can go to your head. But you have to imagine that from middle school to the NFL , Tim was there. Tim made this whole thing happen. Tim didn't miss a game. Whenever Eli looked for that support, that was always there. Now, this year whenever he goes to look for support, it's not real, it's not genuine."

    'I MISS MY SON'

    Eli is Annie Apple's third son and the second child from an abusive relationship that she detailed in an SI.com column last fall. When Eli was 2, Annie met Tim. They married in 2001 and Tim raised Annie's three sons as well as a daughter, Jordan, they had together.

    "From the time I was two years old my dad, Timothy Apple, has been my father," Eli said when he announced that he was changing his last name to Apple during his senior at Eastern High in Voorhees. "He's nurtured, provided, and protected our family. I am the man I am today because of his tireless love, and commitment to our family."

    Just five years later, the relationship is nonexistent. Tim and Eli haven't spoken since June, and Tim hasn't attended Eli's games this season for the first time since he started playing football in middle school.

    Tim, 46, was Eli's de factor manager during his son's rookie season, working with his agent and the advisers that handled Eli's finances, marketing and charity work. Blackson said Eli fired Tim days before Father's Day last June.

    When reached by NJ Advance Media, Tim declined to comment on the specifics of the situation.

    "I love my son and I miss my son," Tim said. "That's the bottom line. That's really what it's about at this point: I miss my son."

    Eli declined to comment when asked about the impact his family situation has had on him this season.

    "I'm good, man," Eli said. "I ain't talking about that."

    A glimpse of Apple's future

    Tim and Annie got divorced in May after 16 years of marriage. Blackson, 27, and Devion, 24, haven't spoken to Eli or Annie in months. Blackson said Eli and Annie share a condo in Hoboken, while the rest of the family lives together in Voorhees.

    "Eli is the youngest (son) so when it comes to just being easily manipulated, I feel like he was always the perfect candidate out of all of us," Blackson said. "Out of the three - me, Devion and Eli - Eli was more the mama's boy."

    'THE ANNIE SHOW'

    Annie, 43, has always been a supportive and outspoken parent, according to multiple people from Eli's background interviewed by NJ Advance Media who requested anonymity because they didn't want to become embroiled in the Apple family's issues.

    Annie was known as one of the most vocal fans while Eli starred at Eastern High and she was never shy about voicing her opinion. While Eli was at Ohio State, Annie was part of a campaign that resulted in the College Football Playoff providing stipends to alleviate the travel expenses for the parents of players.

    Annie, who was a writer/producer for "NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw" in the late 1990s/early 2000s, became a social media sensation during the 2016 NFL Draft . Her humorous and opinionated Twitter persona led to roles with ESPN and Sports Illustrated during Eli's rookie season.

    "Ever since Eli got drafted, I feel like everyone got the wrong impression of Eli," Blackson said. "From the jump, Eli never really stood a chance. It was the Annie show. I feel like that's his biggest downfall."

    Annie's weekly column on SI.com created a firestorm last October when she criticized Giants co-owner John Mara for his "insensitive, dismissive and callous" comments about the domestic abuse allegations levied against former kicker Josh Brown. Eli publicly straddled the awkward line of not siding against his mother or his employer , but Blackson said his brother was furious that Annie jeopardized his career.

    "I remember the whole John Mara thing, that was bad. He almost cut mom completely off," Blackson said. "That was scary for him for a little bit. I remember him calling all of us. It was just bad."

    The relationship survived, and Blackson said Annie tried to take stronger control of Eli's life, isolating him from the rest of the family in the process.

    Eli signed a four-year, $15.1 million contract when he was drafted by the Giants. A family enrichment system was arranged through his financial team at Merrill Lynch, with $6,500 a month spread around the family to help pay for things like his grandparents' mortgage and his sister's private school tuition. That system has been scrapped.

    "You give him all this money and I couldn't tell you what he's doing with it besides letting mom spend it," Blackson said.

    Blackson said there was a drastic change in the family dynamics after Eli was hospitalized for a week in mid-June with an undisclosed illness that caused him to miss minicamp . Annie was by Eli's side throughout the hospital stay.

    "All of a sudden, we were complete enemies," Blackson said. "I don't know what she could have told him, but his energy was completely different from there. That was definitely a pivotal point."

    "Just growing up if you had told me things would end up this way, I wouldn't believe you. 'Eli will go all the way to the Giants and not be family-oriented?' " Blackson said incredulously. "He's burning bridges left and right and he's losing the people that really care about him and love him no matter what. I don't know what him and Annie are up to. It's crazy."

    Annie didn't respond to multiple messages from NJ Advance Media.

    TROUBLE WITH TEAMMATES

    Apple's second season has been a series of disasters on and off the field.

    Apple was torched for 21 catches, 234 yards and four touchdowns with two pass interference penalties in the first four games. Then he was benched for the first three series of the Giants' loss to the Chargers in Week 5 for reportedly talking back to a coach during practice .

    Apple was upset with the benching, saying after the game "it's not just one guy, it's the whole culture." Apple's situation appeared to settle down, while veteran cornerbacks Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins served one-game suspensions over the next four weeks.

    But Apple displayed an appalling lack of effort in a loss to the 49ers on Nov. 12, which made the cornerback the target of intense scrutiny in a film session the next week. Apple reportedly threatened to leave the Giants' facility in the wake of harsh criticism from teammates.

    Apple missed two days of practice after the contentious film session while Annie underwent brain surgery, and he was a healthy scratch for that Sunday's win over the Chiefs. He was then inactive for the Giants' Thanksgiving night loss to the Redskins four days later, with McAdoo saying Apple didn't play in both games due to a lack of practice reps.

    Apple was a late addition to the injury report the next week with a hip injury , and he was held out of a third straight game. Apple said he was healthy, but he was inactive again when the Giants hosted the Cowboys in Week 14.

    Apple got in hot water for tweeting during the game and retweeting an Ohio State fan account that celebrated a late touchdown by Cowboys running back Rod Smith that "iced the New York Giants." That seemed to be the last straw for teammates who had grown tired of counseling the 22-year-old Apple.

    Safety Landon Collins spoke last week about offering support throughout the season while Apple dealt with "a lot of personal issues." The next day, Apple said he hadn't spoken to Collins about his issues . Incensed about being portrayed as a liar, Collins had to be restrained by teammates from confronting Apple later that day, according to two people familiar with the situation.

    When told of the incident, a teammate said Collins wouldn't be the first player that "wanted to kick (Apple's) ***."

    Collins says Apple needs to grow up

    The struggles on the field and the problems with teammates have put Apple at a crossroads just two years into his career. A new general manager and coach will certainly attempt to clean up a locker room that has grown toxic during the Giants' unexpected 2-12 flop.

    And as Apple attempts to navigate the most critical juncture of his career, he remains without a pillar of the support system that helped him reach the NFL.

    "Tim sacrificed everything to get him there," Blackson said. "His performance is like a weird karma. He looks to the stands and that genuine support isn't there anymore."
    https://articles.nj.com/giants/index...mpression=true

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    Really good piece of writing. Knew his mom was trouble from the start. Not suprised. But, it is what it is.

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    Well, first of all mom don't play for the NY Giants. Eli Apple does. He's just a mama's boy that let personal distractions effect his play on the field.

    He probably is not that bad of a player if was able to separate his personal life from football but obviously he's having trouble doing that.

    Eli is the man in his mother's life, she's holding on to him for all the heart ache she's gone through.

    He's in a tough spot, because that 16mil will be gone before you know it....and he's halfway to the end of his contract.

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    Just reading this, he’s more of a ***** now. Grow the **** up man lol. Whoever that scout was that mention “I would be scared to draft Eli because he’s a baby” should be hired now because he was spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing56&33 View Post
    Well, first of all mom don't play for the NY Giants. Eli Apple does. He's just a mama's boy that let personal distractions effect his play on the field.

    He probably is not that bad of a player if was able to separate his personal life from football but obviously he's having trouble doing that.

    Eli is the man in his mother's life, she's holding on to him for all the heart ache she's gone through.

    He's in a tough spot, because that 16mil will be gone before you know it....and he's halfway to the end of his contract.
    I am waiting for you to mention that the Giants should make apple a team captain as that is the cure for the immature players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eeek78 View Post
    I am waiting for you to mention that the Giants should make apple a team captain as that is the cure for the immature players.
    I take it that you are referring to OBJ....team captains are for guys that can play....guys that are good. Eli Apple hasn't shown he can play yet.

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