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    Sustainability of Bostonís winning

    Was talking with my cousin whoís a Boston fan (and pessimistic at times) and was talking about how all these close games make him nervous. He thinks itís taking a lot out of Kyrie to pull the team back into it offensively. He also talked about how they havenít played a lot of good teams and these close games against them is another layer of worrying.

    So whatís your take? How sustainable is this pace? Are they in for a struggle train time?

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    The strength of schedule idea is dumb... theyíve beaten good teams and even great teams.

    But with that said itís not 100% sustainable. I do think theyíll end with the best record in the east though (~58 wins? Something like that)


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    At this pace they are on track for 73 wins, so no I don't think they're going to sustain it. But Kyrie is still really young, they'll be fine. Tell your friend to just enjoy the ride.

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    16-2 is a 73 win pace. Obviously they won't sustain that. So in a literal sense it's definitely not sustainable. In a more broad perspective, I think they're a very good team. I actually think they'll be a better playoff team because they'll extend minutes of their better players:

    Horford, Brown playing 32.6 minutes/game
    Kyrie playing 31.5
    Tatum playing 30.3
    Morris playing 23.7 as he's still on restrictions coming back from injury

    Right now we have marginal NBA players like Semi Ojeye, Shane Larkin, Daniel Theis playing a combined 35 minutes/game. Come playoff time they'll extend starter minutes and have better players out there longer.


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    This is unsustainable. Teams will be watching tape and be better prepared moving forward.

    But this is incredible. Keep in mind, that T-Mac Houston team (I believe without Yao who was out due to injury) went on a crazy win streak even longer than this and didn't even get out of the first round (though I think they had some injuries kicking around that year if memory serves me correct).

    Early regular season. Great coaching, strong, unselfish players. They've come into the season prepared. Need a couple of games to adjust to Hayward being out. Other teams are just getting their $#!t together.

    60+ wins seems certain, but they'll come down, just like A-God's 3pt%.
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    The Celtics will slow down a little eventually, but this is a legitimate 55-60 win team. Boston is very good defensively, and defense tends to travel very well. If they can sustain this level of defense all season, they're going to be in a lot of close games with very good teams. Their main benefit is they have probably the best late-game player in basketball with Kyrie Irving. He'll win them a whole lot more close games than he'll lose them. Boston's combination of youth, athleticism, willingness / ability to defend, and superior coaching is going to make them a very successful team.

    However, I think it's an Eastern Conference Finals team at best at the moment. When push comes to shove, I'm just not taking a 19 year old Jayson Tatum and 21 year old Jaylen Brown against a LeBron James team 4 times in 7 games. They're showing maturity beyond their years, but I do think this team would come up a little short against Cleveland, which is nothing to sneeze at. Boston has an immensely talented young team with a bright future. I just think it's going to be another year before they're beating LeBron.

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    FWIW the discussion was more around winning low scoring tight games than anything else.

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    As long as they don't get hurt and stay 100% focused on D they can sustain it.

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    Theyll sustain it until they play the Cavs again probably.

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    They're a very good basketball team with an otherworldly defense, but I can't imagine that a team as mediocre as they are offensively (18th in ORtg, 20th in PPG) can keep up anything close to this winning pace long-term. I see them as a 55-60 win team with an outside shot to top 60 wins.

    We also have to factor in potential injuries as both Kyrie and Horford aren't exactly known as iron men in this league. Kyrie has never played more than 75 games in his career, and Horford almost always misses a few games here or there.


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    Their defense will keep them in pretty much every game. Before last night, Bostonís bench shot 17% combined over 3 the previous three games. They won those games by 7, 4, and 11 respectively. Once Marcus Smart goes back to his career average shooting percentages (still not good), the bench will be better. Almost scary to think how good theyíd be if they had Hayward taking Smartís shots and the minutes of Ojeleye/Larkin/etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    They're a very good basketball team with an otherworldly defense, but I can't imagine that a team as mediocre as they are offensively (18th in ORtg, 20th in PPG) can keep up anything close to this winning pace long-term. I see them as a 55-60 win team with an outside shot to top 60 wins.

    We also have to factor in potential injuries as both Kyrie and Horford aren't exactly known as iron men in this league. Kyrie has never played more than 75 games in his career, and Horford almost always misses a few games here or there.
    I expect the offense to pickup. Morris is still being limited minutes wise and him taking time from guys like Theis or Ojeyele will improve the offense. Also, Kyrie has some clutch moments but overall he hasn't been great offensively. I also think Smart will regress to the mean which as bad as he's been shooting is actually a big improvement despite him still not being a good shooter lol

    Also, in regards to injuries. Kyrie missed a full game and almost all of one. Horford missed two full games. So what they've done so far is still with some injury time factored in for those guys (what would project to 9 games missed each).


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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    I expect the offense to pickup. Morris is still being limited minutes wise and him taking time from guys like Theis or Ojeyele will improve the offense. Also, Kyrie has some clutch moments but overall he hasn't been great offensively. I also think Smart will regress to the mean which as bad as he's been shooting is actually a big improvement despite him still not being a good shooter lol

    Also, in regards to injuries. Kyrie missed a full game and almost all of one. Horford missed two full games. So what they've done so far is still with some injury time factored in for those guys (what would project to 9 games missed each).
    They might get a little better offensively, but I think they kind of are what they are on that side of the floor. Getting a little more out of their role players isn't going to equate to them being a top 10 offense all of a sudden. And I think they'll come to a point where some offensive teams shoot lights out and start winning some games against them.

    And that probably sounds overly negative, but I still definitely think they're a top 3-5 team in the league and should easily top 55 wins and get the top seed in the East. Another thing to factor in as well is that the Celtics already have a four-game lead on the No. 2 seed in the East after less than a quarter of the season. If that margin continues to grow, I can totally see Stevens resting some of his guys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    FWIW the discussion was more around winning low scoring tight games than anything else.
    I think that's the kind of game you have to play when you have a superior 1v1 player like Irving. Keep the score low and prevent them from scoring, and those 4 or 5 plays where Irving just flat out beats his man count for significantly more. In a high scoring, free flowing game, Irving may drop 40 but so will the opponent.

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