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  1. #841
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    Itís the best stealth, under the radar move ever!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    I hope i win the next Mega Millions or Powerball drawing.
    I don't think its that far fetched and if we want any hope of a good season from the Mets, we have to hope this staff can help these guys.

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    John Harper with a great article expressing what many of us fans have been expressing about Alderson and his sub par drafts.


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    Sherman with a good article about how the Mets could find ways to improve spending which includes Cespedes.

    Iíve said it before but with the state of the team, weíre definitely going to regret the Cespedes contract when all is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    Sherman with a good article about how the Mets could find ways to improve spending which includes Cespedes.

    Iíve said it before but with the state of the team, weíre definitely going to regret the Cespedes contract when all is done.
    so they were wrong to spend big bucks on Cespedes but we criticize them daily for not spending big bucks on talent?

    Wow.

    Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJNetsIsles View Post
    Yes that's exactly how I feel. The Mets however didn't put forth a good product and think they can cover it up with a MANAGER as a reason to buy Tickets.
    New York Mets approach reminds me of buying a 1960 something zimgar guitar for $24.99 and because it sucks, you put $25 D'Addario stings on it. It still sucks, but the Wilpons are trying, lol.

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    instead of throwing out the Zimgar, saving the money on new strings (because guess what Jeffy, the strirngs aren't what makes a guitar sound good). Go out and spend the ****ing money that belongs to the Mets - not to your new boat, car or vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    Sherman with a good article about how the Mets could find ways to improve spending which includes Cespedes.

    Iíve said it before but with the state of the team, weíre definitely going to regret the Cespedes contract when all is done.
    If a team regrets signing Cespedes it's because the team doesn't have the operating capital to run a major league baseball club. If that's the case, the problem isn't Cespedes, it's the owners.

    And that's the case.

    Don't worry. He's got this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    so they were wrong to spend big bucks on Cespedes but we criticize them daily for not spending big bucks on talent?

    Wow.

    Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
    Better allocation of resources. If the Mets knew they would be financially handicapped (which honestly, Iím not sold on just yet) they shouldnít have put all of their eggs in one basket.

    Say we only have 10MM left to spend. Cespedesí 30MM is A HUGE commitment for our team, as of now heís taking up roughly 25% of our payroll...thatís no sustainable, look at the trouble teams like the D-Backs have with Greinke.

    Say we approached this offseason without Cespedes and the owners were willing to raise payroll another 30MM, we would have 40MM to spend on multiple guys who can fill 2nd/3rd, outfield, and probably starter.


    Cespedesí high AAV could easily be allocated to the likes of Moustakas and an Addison Reed, or Bruce, Reed, and Jackson/Dyson.

    Point is, you canít have one player taking up so much money, the Mets were hoping that Cespedes would be off the books when the pitching gets expensive but at this point, why even have him along if weíre not putting pieces around him?

    Cespedes was nothing more than a statement signing to try and prove to fans that we are capable of spending money. Problem is, theyíre paying Cespedes the same AAV as guys like Stanton and Kershaw when he isnít anywhere near their level. Heís a good player but horribly overpaid and even moreso now with home runs at an all time high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaBelieve View Post
    If a team regrets signing Cespedes it's because the team doesn't have the operating capital to run a major league baseball club. If that's the case, the problem isn't Cespedes, it's the owners.

    And that's the case.
    No duh. But if youíre operating from the owners perspective, you canít put all of your eggs in one basket.

    Of course the problem isnít Cespedes, you never fault the player for going after the big bucks but the Mets shouldnít have offered him the big bucks if they knew it would handicap them going forward. Thatís all, really.

    We all get the owners are cheap but if youíre going to be cheap, you should spend every penny wisely and Cespedes wasnít a wise choice.

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    Cespedes is a 3-4 WAR player over a full year. He's done better that as a Met but was hurt for half of 2017 - something we all suspect he'll fix with proper conditioning.

    In 2017 the average price for a FA was about $10.5 million per WAR. That number has been consistently rising by at least 3% per year for the past few years. Cespedes has an AAV of $27.5 million until 2022.

    So no, by no stretch of the imagination is Cespedes overpaid as a FA signing. It wasn't a stupid, make the fans happy signing as you suggest. You have no actual data to back up that claim unless you think he's going to always be hurt like he was for 1/2 of 1 year as a Met.

    If the team regrets signing him, it just means they can't afford to run a major league baseball club and the owner should sell. There's no actual evidence based baseball argument against Cespedes having the contract he has with the Mets.

    Don't worry. He's got this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    No duh. But if youíre operating from the owners perspective, you canít put all of your eggs in one basket.

    Of course the problem isnít Cespedes, you never fault the player for going after the big bucks but the Mets shouldnít have offered him the big bucks if they knew it would handicap them going forward. Thatís all, really.

    We all get the owners are cheap but if youíre going to be cheap, you should spend every penny wisely and Cespedes wasnít a wise choice.
    Cespedes is a properly allocated resource. The man produces for his value. What exactly is your solution to his production if he is not a Met?

    Don't worry. He's got this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    No duh. But if youíre operating from the owners perspective, you canít put all of your eggs in one basket.

    Of course the problem isnít Cespedes, you never fault the player for going after the big bucks but the Mets shouldnít have offered him the big bucks if they knew it would handicap them going forward. Thatís all, really.

    We all get the owners are cheap but if youíre going to be cheap, you should spend every penny wisely and Cespedes wasnít a wise choice.
    Cespedes produces well within market value and sometimes exceeds it. The Mets need more of those players but that requires spending money on quality FA or developing your own. Whatever the case is, it wasn't a bad decision to sign him.

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    Yeah, signing Ces was a no-brainer. Not a bad contract(s) at all.

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    Without Sex we wouldn't have made the 2015 Playoffs.

    End of story!


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