Frank Ntilikina's Projected Outlook Thread

[HeartOfStarks]

Things are just too crowded now. 2 more PG's and 2 more SG's added, not including the non-draftee signing or Leon's first move as a GM, Harper.

Besides, RJ may play the 2 as well in order to get Knox, Iggy, or Bulluck time at the 3 cause Obi and the PF contingent we just got via trade, are all sitting at the 4. Honestly. the team still looks a little messy right now. I like some of the moves but I think you still have to be a little confused as to our direction, vet or kids play?

Knox, Iggy & DSJ have to prove they’re NBA players at this point. If it was me I would play them, develop them to see what we have. But as of now those three along with Quickley & Spellman are the bottom 5 of the depth chart. That’s just an accurate assessment based off where we last saw them. Knox was one of the worst players in the entire league last year as was DSJ. I still have hope for Knox though.

Jared Harper isn’t making this roster as is. Again I would’ve preferred him over signing Payton which is imo the worst move Leon has made so far but it is what it is.

[Bivory]

Knox, Iggy & DSJ have to prove they’re NBA players at this point. If it was me I would play them, develop them to see what we have. But as of now those three along with Quickley & Spellman are the bottom 5 of the depth chart. That’s just an accurate assessment based off where we last saw them. Knox was one of the worst players in the entire league last year as was DSJ. I still have hope for Knox though.

Jared Harper isn’t making this roster as is. Again I would’ve preferred him over signing Payton which is imo the worst move Leon has made so far but it is what it is.

Once again, I don't think the Knicks are done. They've crowded Knox, DSjr , and Frank and made it tougher on them all, in regards to fighting for minutes, to a certain degree. Something has to give.

Unfortunately, Randle, Knox, DSjr, and Frank, all have to be somewhat suspect of their immediate future and role. I don't think the Knicks are done. Management sees what we see but now that every spot can be taken, they can operate from strength, instead of need. I see the method to the madness, but what's this next move?

#freeIggy

[HeartOfStarks]

Once again, I don't think the Knicks are done. They've crowded Knox, DSjr , and Frank and made it tougher on them all, in regards to fighting for minutes, to a certain degree. Something has to give.

Unfortunately, Randle, Knox, DSjr, and Frank, all have to be somewhat suspect of their immediate future and role. I don't think the Knicks are done. Management sees what we see but now that every spot can be taken, they can operate from strength, instead of need. I see the method to the madness, but what's this next move?

I’m with you. Have to think they’re attempting to move Randle, that’s the only thing I’m fairly certain of. Parking Obi behind him doesn’t seem to make much sense, especially considering Obi’s not a 19 year old kid coming in. Imo moving Randle will be addition by subtraction so I’d honestly take a second rounder for him at this point if some team would take him off our hands. I don’t want to attach assets to him though to move him, would rather just waive him or see if we can move him at the deadline.

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On Obi’s drive to get better....

https://youtu.be/XuTwWHBIJ9U

[ewing]

Says 4 years of bringing in veterans to play in front of him.

What would you have suggested? Just D league players under a certain age.


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[ewing]

We’ll see what he does this year. The past years mean 0

I agree. He has another shot to earn a job. It’s definitely possible imo


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[Bubba313]

What would you have suggested? Just D league players under a certain age.


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Starting Frank at PG in the second half of his rookie year, once it was clear we were out of playoff contention, instead of playing Jarrett Jack and Trey Burke ahead of him. And I certainly would not have traded for Mudiay...

For his sophomore year, again not playing Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay ahead of him. (Assuming we can't go back and re-do the KP trade), I would have started DSJ and Frank next to each other at PG/SG for the rest of the season.

Last year, I understand the idea of bringing in Payton to start. Once it became clear we were not going to make the playoffs, that Mills was going to get fired, and that we weren't bringing back any of these guys on one-year deals, I would have pivoted to DSJ and Frank getting the bulk of the minutes again.

[Bubba313]

^ And if Frank sucks as bad as half this forum thinks he does, we might have ended up with Luka Doncic, Trae Young, Zion Williamson, or Ja Morant if we actually just played him more.

[HeartOfStarks]

^ And if Frank sucks as bad as half this forum thinks he does, we might have ended up with Luka Doncic, Trae Young, Zion Williamson, or Ja Morant if we actually just played him more.

I agree end of the day the Knicks continuously execute the dumbest strategy year after year. Hopefully this season is different. This next draft is loaded.

[ewing]

Starting Frank at PG in the second half of his rookie year, once it was clear we were out of playoff contention, instead of playing Jarrett Jack and Trey Burke ahead of him. And I certainly would not have traded for Mudiay...

For his sophomore year, again not playing Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay ahead of him. (Assuming we can't go back and re-do the KP trade), I would have started DSJ and Frank next to each other at PG/SG for the rest of the season.

Last year, I understand the idea of bringing in Payton to start. Once it became clear we were not going to make the playoffs, that Mills was going to get fired, and that we weren't bringing back any of these guys on one-year deals, I would have pivoted to DSJ and Frank getting the bulk of the minutes again.

Imo that’s a lot special treatment for a kid that was taken 8th and whose ceiling isn’t even all star level. It’s not like he got benched long term. That I would have been against. He’s deserved opportunity. I feel like he got it. I don’t think he did a good job taking advantage.

I’m for him continuing to get 20 mins a night to see if he can earn more.

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[Bubba313]

Imo that’s a lot special treatment for a kid that was taken 8th and whose ceiling isn’t even all star level. It’s not like he got benched long term. That I would have been against. He’s deserved opportunity. I feel like he got it. I don’t think he did a good job taking advantage.

I’m for him continuing to get 20 mins a night to see if he can earn more.

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It’s how a top ten pick should be treated, particularly on a team that’s never even been close to making the playoffs. He may not have ever been benched long term, but he was benched repeatedly and intermittently, and for players who had no future here.

I’d be happy if he got 20 mins a night this year, but I’m not holding my breath. I think he’s gone before January, and even if he survives this year, we’re not bringing him back.

[ewing]

It’s how a top ten pick should be treated, particularly on a team that’s never even been close to making the playoffs. He may not have ever been benched long term, but he was benched repeatedly and intermittently, and for players who had no future here.

I’d be happy if he got 20 mins a night this year, but I’m not holding my breath. I think he’s gone before January, and even if he survives this year, we’re not bringing him back.

I think he should be given an opportunity to play even if he might not be the best choice then rewarded if he earns it. I think he got that. I think he’ll get a shot this year too. I fee like he might be more comfortable being a wing this year. I actual think he best suited as a wing in a small ball line up. I think Thibs might find him a role. I also think it’s possible they Thibs abandons him if he is too indecisive


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[Bubba313]

I think he should be given an opportunity to play even if he might not be the best choice then rewarded if he earns it. I think he got that. I think he’ll get a shot this year too. I fee like he might be more comfortable being a wing this year. I actual think he best suited as a wing in a small ball line up. I think Thibs might find him a role. I also think it’s possible they Thibs abandons him if he is too indecisive


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I don’t disagree. I hope he gets a shot this year and his play demands a spot in the rotation.

[justcallmetm]

I don’t think many here even looked at his month by month shooting splits and his home and away shooting splits. If you break that down you will see month by month improvement. You will also see he plays better as a starter and with more minutes, but also he shoots it better overall away from MSG.

I think Frank can play it’s the matter of just letting a coach start him give him minutes and let him loose. Thibs cares about defense and in that Frank has the leg up.

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../shooting/2020

[ShadyOne]

I don’t think many here even looked at his month by month shooting splits and his home and away shooting splits. If you break that down you will see month by month improvement. You will also see he plays better as a starter and with more minutes, but also he shoots it better overall away from MSG.

I think Frank can play it’s the matter of just letting a coach start him give him minutes and let him loose. Thibs cares about defense and in that Frank has the leg up.

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../shooting/2020

I have. He’s just extremely inconsistent. Every time he has a good game or 2, we all think maybe something is going on. Then he stinks for 4 in a row. Part of the reason he hasn’t grabbed more steady minutes. And it really wasn’t “month by month” improvement. Pretty much was a good last 6 games, shooting wise (one good game from 3)

Also, Frank shoots at low volume. It’s not really saying much. And he basically is getting great looks, they barely guard him. He should be hitting at a much higher clip