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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    It might of come from someone inside the Braves FO. Remember those reports awhile back about a power struggle? Some talk today with all of this is someone inside the Braves FO was saying it had become toxic in the FO and hoped all of this wouldn't take them all down.
    You hit the spot, this will sound like a conspiracy theory lol, but I think it was an inside job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
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    Quick question...... had any of the redsox prospects, played in their system when the ruling was made?
    Yes, they all played for the red sox at DSL at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beldugo View Post
    Yes, they all played for the red sox at DSL at the time.
    Damn..... I looked for a ray of sun light!

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    This is going to suck so much if we lose Maitan. Sounds like this could be worse than whah the Red Sox did a few years ago. We're in some serious **** right now.
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    John Coppolella resigns amid MLB probe

    "The scope of the Braves’ scheme remains unclear, but a source familiar with it deemed it “significantly bigger” than a similar one employed by the Boston Red Sox in the 2015-16 signing period. "

    “This place is totally [expletive] up,” one high-ranking Braves employee said last week. “I just hope when it blows up, it doesn’t take all of us down.”
    https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/john-coppolellas-resignation-just-start-atlanta-braves-problems-230643724.html
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    Latest On John Coppolella, Braves
    By Connor Byrne | October 2, 2017 at 7:22pm CDT

    7:22pm: Associates of Moore believe he’s likely to leave the Royals for the Braves, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets.

    5:42pm: Braves president of baseball operations John Hart spoke to David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and other reporters Monday about general manager John Coppolella’s resignation, which was a forced exit, O’Brien writes.

    Hart expressed deep disappointment in Coppolella, confirming he committed “an MLB rules violation that has to do with the international marketplace.” Hart also revealed that the league “dug up a number of things that were quite serious, as far as the MLB ruless” in its investigation, one that went back roughly two years, O’Brien tweets. Coppolella’s international violations were merely “the tip of the iceberg,” a source told Jerry Crasnick of ESPN (Twitter link).

    As the Braves move forward, Hart will assume their GM role on a temporary basis, but a couple of potential full-time successors to Coppollela have already emerged in the rumor mill. One possibility is Royals GM Dayton Moore, who started his career in Atlanta in 1994 before eventually heading to Kansas City in 2006. Moore still “has a soft spot” for the Braves, Crasnick notes (Twitter links). Crasnick also points out that with the Royals perhaps entering a rebuild and having an up-and-coming GM prospect in J.J. Picollo, now may be the time for them and Moore to part ways.

    Should the Braves strike out on a potential Moore pursuit, they might turn to Dan Jennings, who “could be a top candidate,” according to O’Brien (on Twitter). Jennings is a special assistant to Nationals GM Mike Rizzo, but he’s better known for his time with the Marlins. The 57-year-old worked as Miami’s GM from 2013-15, and he even served as its interim manager for 124 games in his final season with the club. Jennings ceded the GM position when he shifted to the dugout, an experiment that yielded a 55-69 record and led to his firing after in October 2015.






    MLB Investigating Braves’ Kevin Maitan Signing
    By Connor Byrne | October 2, 2017 at 6:19pm CDT

    As part of its investigation into ousted Braves general manager John Coppolella’s alleged violations of its international rules, Major League Baseball is looking into the team’s 2016 signing of prospect Kevin Maitan, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reports in a must-read piece. In what would be a stunning development, MLB could deem the 17-year-old Maitan a free agent if it finds improprieties in the signing, according to Passan.

    The Coppolella-led Braves inked the Venezuelan-born Maitan to a $4.25MM bonus at the outset of last year’s international free agent period. Maitan was the top free agent in the 2016 class and drew comparisons to Braves legend Chipper Jones, Miguel Cabrera and Miguel Sano at the time of his signing. In the months before Maitan joined the Braves, he lived in a two-bedroom apartment in Florida for “a significant amount of time” with another teenage prospect who also signed with the team, Passan details. It’s unclear, though, whether the Braves funded the prospects’ stay in the U.S., Passan adds.

    In 2017, his first season in the Atlanta organization, the switch-hitting Maitan played shortstop at the rookie level and slashed .241/.290/.340 with two home runs in 176 plate appearances. MLB.com ranks him as the No. 5 prospect in the Braves’ deep farm system and the 38th-best youngster in the game. Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs (No. 67) and Baseball America (No. 71) also regard Maitan as a top 75 prospect.

    Coppollela may have skirted regulations when signing Maitan, but it seems he also disregarded MLB’s rules domestically. In August 2016, for instance, Coppolella allegedly contacted the representative for an impending free agent wanting to discuss the player well before the market opened in November, which would have violated tampering rules, per Passan. Additionally, Passan explains that Coppolella is alleged to have offered 2017 second-round pick Drew Waters a car in order to get him to sign a below-slot deal. The Braves signed the 18-year-old outfielder to a $1.5MM bonus that came in under the $1.675MM slot value of Waters’ pick, No. 41 overall, but his agent, Keith Grunewald, told sources Passan spoke with that Coppolella’s car offer was only made as a joke. Coppolella met with MLB officials in New York last week to discuss the accusations against him, Passan relays.

    While it appears MLB could seriously punish the Braves for their actions under Coppollela, his career in the game may be over. Coppolella’s methods in Atlanta did not win him many fans among either his peers around the league or fellow members of the Braves’ front office, Passan writes. One high-ranking Braves official revealed to Passan that things became toxic with Coppolella around, saying last week that “this place is totally [expletive] up. I just hope when it blows up, it doesn’t take all of us down.”
    a couple of articles from mlbtraderumors.com

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    https://theathletic.com/116743/2017/...gning-scandal/


    Not sure if I linked correctly. Article makes it sound like MLB didn't find anything on Maitan. Also says the focus is 98% on international market and that we aren't the only team currently being investigated.
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    I can deal with losing future picks and/or international signings but if lose Maitan that's going to be a back breaker. Sounds like we could potentially lose Maitan and Waters plus future draft picks and international bans. Not sure who was living with Maitan in Florida but we might lose that kid too.
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    Rosenthal is saying the league is investing the Braves signing 14 year old Robert Puason. He's supposedly the next big thing from the DR and doesn't turn 16 until 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    I can deal with losing future picks and/or international signings but if lose Maitan that's going to be a back breaker. Sounds like we could potentially lose Maitan and Waters plus future draft picks and international bans. Not sure who was living with Maitan in Florida but we might lose that kid too.
    From what I read the car thing with Waters sounds like it was just a joke but someone who was there thought it was legit. Rosenthal also has said so far the MLB has not found any wrongdoing with Maitan but there are other things they are looking into.

    Best case for us right now is huge fines and ban from signing IFA for a few years, possible loss of draft picks as well maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLKoos16 View Post
    https://theathletic.com/116743/2017/...gning-scandal/


    Not sure if I linked correctly. Article makes it sound like MLB didn't find anything on Maitan. Also says the focus is 98% on international market and that we aren't the only team currently being investigated.
    Don't have a membership there. What does it say about Maitan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba42 View Post
    Don't have a membership there. What does it say about Maitan?
    It's as I said before, the MLB has not found any wrongdoing with Maitan at this time. Seems Talking Chop has a membership and posted that in one of there articles. That can change quickly though. Here is the jist from MLB-TR

    Coppolella and the Braves allegedly agreed to a deal this summer with 14-year-old Haitian Dominican shortstop prospect Robert Puason, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. As Rosenthal points out, Puason isn’t eligible to sign until he’s 16, so the Braves are in violation if they did indeed reach an agreement with him. But the league is also investigating other teams for agreeing to sign underage prospects, per Rosenthal. One international scouting director informed him that up to 15 clubs have reached deals with players who, like Puason, aren’t allowed to sign until 2019. Keith Law of ESPN adds (on Twitter) that there are some prospects who can’t sign until 2020 but already have verbal agreements with teams. The current international setup has led to frustration from baseball officials, meaning there will be another attempt to institute a worldwide draft after the collective bargaining agreement expires in 2021, Rosenthal writes.

    As for Maitan, Rosenthal relays that MLB hasn’t found any improprieties in his signing to this point, though that could change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    It's as I said before, the MLB has not found any wrongdoing with Maitan at this time. Seems Talking Chop has a membership and posted that in one of there articles. That can change quickly though. Here is the jist from MLB-TR
    Thanks for sharing. I hope nothing comes from Maitan, that'd be a big blow to what already seems like there might be stiff penalties.

    Well either they need to implement a worldwide draft or they need to figure out how to better handle the cap issues for international players. Maybe eliminate the cap or make it bigger. Probably the best way to do it is to have the international players in the draft just like the other major sports leagues do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    It's as I said before, the MLB has not found any wrongdoing with Maitan at this time. Seems Talking Chop has a membership and posted that in one of there articles. That can change quickly though. Here is the jist from MLB-TR
    I feel it would be hard to prove anything with this Puason kid.

    Also, how much of this is Hart involved with? Hart has basically been right by Coppy's side. I find it hard to believe he knew nothing.
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