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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Pakistan, India, Israel, France, UK, US, Russia, China....

    Al have them. Next time India and Pakistan mix it up, should be take them?

    NK is a nation with borders, currency, people, economy, etc. - it's a place, not some green tinted country on a 2D map.

    So the big paternalistic US should take action? What if 1.7M innocents are killed (many in SK). Acceptable?

    Not saying no, I want more justification then Trump has been insulted.
    How about the next time they threaten to use nukes on us?

    Kim Jong Un's father once put an advertisement in a magazine, a cure for being short. He rounded up all the people that answered the advertisement and executed them because he doesn't like short people people. He was short.

    According to reports, Kim, who was 52 at the time, carded no worse than a birdie on any hole at the country’s only golf club. He also had five holes-in-one in the round, which was witnessed by 17 armed bodyguards.

    “He is an excellent golfer,” Park Young Man, the club professional, told the International Herald Tribune a couple of months after Kim’s historic round, which was widely-reported in North Korea’s state-controlled media.
    This is a family that thinks they make the sun rise in the morning.

    You're all so disingenuous. You think Trump and North Korea's leadership are on the same level. I've even heard people sympathize with NK saying they just want to defend themselves.

    THEY'RE ****ING CRAZY. Trump's a buffoon. They think the sun revolves around them.

    They should not have nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin13697 View Post
    North Korea's nukes were a result of Bush Jr. trying to appease the hard line Republicans.

    Bush 2002, State of the Union address, made famous remark regarding North Korea as "axis of evil" & “arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.” Two days later, the North Koreans declared Bush's speech was "little short of a declaration of war."

    Just a week later, Colin Powell restated the Bush Administration's willingness to engage in bilateral talks with North Korea at "any time, any place, or anywhere without any preconditions."
    The arming of N.Korea started in the Clinton administration, in 1995 when we gave them the money and the technology to build light-water nuclear reactors, and the coddling continued under Bush and Obama.

    Honestly this is mess a quarter century in the making, caused by the 3 previous administrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    How about the next time they threaten to use nukes on us?

    Kim Jong Un's father once put an advertisement in a magazine, a cure for being short. He rounded up all the people that answered the advertisement and executed them because he doesn't like short people people. He was short.



    This is a family that thinks they make the sun rise in the morning.

    You're all so disingenuous. You think Trump and North Korea's leadership are on the same level. I've even heard people sympathize with NK saying they just want to defend themselves.

    THEY'RE ****ING CRAZY. Trump's a buffoon. They think the sun revolves around them.

    They should not have nukes.
    I do want to pull nukes out of NK. It can't be done peacefully. As I wrote someplace else around here last week, we should go for the NK missile sites, nuke facilities, subs. He needs to be on the phone with us 10 min before it starts. You get to stay in power if you don't attack Japan, SK, US or anyone else as a result of this, if you lob one shell, you're out of power. Without the call you'll get Seoul getting pounded because it'll take a few days to finish off the strategic weapons.

    I just want to see good justification here and an understanding of the civilian disaster this could turn into.

    While I'd be forced to take Trump over KJU if forced to make a choice, he's a liar, probably a traitor, a bully, and a racist. Not fit to be President. THankfully looks like the the mechanisms that protects our country is going to be able to spit him out, and be a warning to electing a no nothing bully boy proto fascist.
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    I don't think people realie the strategic situation in the peninsula. The reason the US can't just fly by and bomb their nuclear facilities or military targets is because North Korea has more weapons pointed at Seoul and South Korea than any other spot on earth. Any military strikes in North Korea will trigger an instant bombardment of South Korea where hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of casualties.

    One of the biggest reasons we haven't already attacked NK is because SK is vehemently against it since they'd bear the brunt of the retaliation.

    It does seem odd to me that we would attack NK because they could possibly kill people when doing so would kill people.

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    You don't have to bomb them. You put pressure on them economically. Looking at you China. China runs trade surplus' with almost everyone, supports this oppressive regime, and then tries to lecture Trump, and idiots agree with them... lol
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    Yeah the greatest thing to do about NK is to push China into continuing sanctions. That's a historical way to deal with issues without going to war.

    As far as nukes go, NK shouldn't have them BUT since we have them, they should be allowed to have them to. Simple as that. - it feels like we're going over the whole Iran deal all over again with this ****.

    Un might be an idiot and I get that people are scared of others having nukes but historically, we're the only ones who have used them. We're more of a threat to them than they are to us.

    Trump and Un are like a bunch of angry fat kids fighting over a Twinkie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    You don't have to bomb them. You put pressure on them economically. Looking at you China. China runs trade surplus' with almost everyone, supports this oppressive regime, and then tries to lecture Trump, and idiots agree with them... lol
    So you pressure China with sanctions to stop dealing with North Korea? Are you aware how many companies make their products in China, how much trade we do with China?

    You sure you want to start an economic war with China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    So you pressure China with sanctions to stop dealing with North Korea? Are you aware how many companies make their products in China, how much trade we do with China?

    You sure you want to start an economic war with China?
    Sure, but we do way more with them than NK does

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    So you pressure China with sanctions to stop dealing with North Korea? Are you aware how many companies make their products in China, how much trade we do with China?

    You sure you want to start an economic war with China?
    No, China's supposed to pressure North Korea but they don't do it because they're *******s. Amazing to hear a country like that lecture us when we float the idea of reworking a trade deal. One of the most selfish nations around.

    Of course we could buy a lot of our cheap **** somewhere else.

    The UN completely dropped the ball. This is supposed to be what it's for. But now you have a nation that's adopted the worst aspects of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia advancing their nuclear program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    No, China's supposed to pressure North Korea but they don't do it because they're *******s. Amazing to hear a country like that lecture us when we float the idea of reworking a trade deal. One of the most selfish nations around.

    Of course we could buy a lot of our cheap **** somewhere else.

    The UN completely dropped the ball. This is supposed to be what it's for. But now you have a nation that's adopted the worst aspects of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia advancing their nuclear program.
    So how do you make ***holes do something that they don't want to do. North Korea is a pawn for China so that they can poke us in the eye. They don't want to fix the problem because they don't see a problem.

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    It's quite funny seeing the left defending NK. No, NK should not have nuclear weapons. It would bring a great deal of danger to SK and the rest of the world

    Kim is a nut who kills his own family members. They threaten to kill anyone who tries to leave their country and they brainwash their citizens into believing what they want them to believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Pakistan, India, Israel, France, UK, US, Russia, China....

    Al have them. Next time India and Pakistan mix it up, should be take them?

    NK is a nation with borders, currency, people, economy, etc. - it's a place, not some green tinted country on a 2D map.

    So the big paternalistic US should take action? What if 1.7M innocents are killed (many in SK). Acceptable?

    Not saying no, I want more justification then Trump has been insulted.
    oh the irony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    It's quite funny seeing the left defending NK. No, NK should not have nuclear weapons. It would bring a great deal of danger to SK and the rest of the world

    Kim is a nut who kills his own family members. They threaten to kill anyone who tries to leave their country and they brainwash their citizens into believing what they want them to believe
    Where?

    Don't confuse people calling out Trump's utter ineptness with defending NK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    It's quite funny seeing the left defending NK. No, NK should not have nuclear weapons. It would bring a great deal of danger to SK and the rest of the world

    Kim is a nut who kills his own family members. They threaten to kill anyone who tries to leave their country and they brainwash their citizens into believing what they want them to believe
    Umm so about that. They've had them for nearly two decades and haven't hurt anyone except for their own people and people who (sorry to Otto's family) were too stupid to not realize going to North Korea was a ****ing stupid idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    First Bolded: how certain are you North Korea is going to attack us?

    Second Bolded: Who? Let me guess, some random idiot on twitter?
    I suppose their just testing these missiles for a good time.

    many many idiots on twitter, when it should be literally nobody.



    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKCN1BY0BS

    North Korea says rockets to U.S. 'inevitable' as U.S. bombers fly off North Korean coast
    UNITED NATIONS/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - North Korea said on Saturday targeting the U.S. mainland with its rockets was inevitable after “Mr. Evil President” Donald Trump called Pyongyang’s leader “rocket man”, further escalating rhetoric over the North’s nuclear weapons and missile programs.

    North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho’s remarks to the United Nations General Assembly came hours after U.S. Air Force B-1B Lancer bombers escorted by fighters flew in international airspace over waters east of North Korea in a show of force the Pentagon said showed the range of military options available to Trump.

    Ri’s speech capped a week of rising tensions between Washington and Pyongyang, with Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un trading insults. Trump called Kim a “madman” on Friday, a day after Kim dubbed him a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard.”

    On Saturday, the mudslinging continued with Ri calling Trump “a mentally deranged person full of megalomania and complacency” who is trying to turn the United Nations into a “gangsters’ nest”. Ri said Trump himself was on a “suicide mission” after the U.S. president had said Kim was on such a mission.

    ”‘President Evil’ is holding the seat of the U.S.

    President,” Ri said, warning that Pyongyang was ready to defend itself if the United States showed any sign of conducting a “decapitating operation on our headquarters or military attack against our country”.

    “Now we are finally only a few steps away from the final gate of completion of the state nuclear force,” Ri told the annual gathering of world leaders.

    He said sanctions would have no effect on Pyongyang’s resolve to develop its nuclear weapons, with the ultimate goal being “balance of power with the U.S.”

    Trump announced new U.S. sanctions on Thursday that he said allow targeting of companies and institutions that finance and facilitate trade with North Korea.

    Earlier this month the U.N. Security Council unanimously adopted its ninth round of sanctions on Pyongyang to counter its nuclear and ballistic missiles programs.

    The U.S. bombers’ flight was the farthest north of the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea that any U.S. fighter jet or bomber has flown in the 21st century, the Pentagon said.

    “This mission is a demonstration of U.S. resolve and a clear message that the President has many military options to defeat any threat,” said Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White.

    “We are prepared to use the full range of military capabilities to defend the U.S. homeland and our allies.”

    North Korea has launched dozens of missiles this year, several flying over Japan, as it accelerates its program aimed at enabling it to target the United States with a nuclear-tipped missile.

    Pyongyang conducted its sixth and largest nuclear test on Sept. 3 and has threatened to test a hydrogen bomb over the Pacific.

    Ri met with U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres after delivering his speech. Guterres expressed concern to Ri over the escalating tensions and appealed for de-escalation, the United Nations said in a statement.

    The Pentagon said the B-1B bombers came from Guam and their U.S. Air Force F-15C Eagle fighter escorts came from Okinawa, Japan. Previous shows of force with bombers have stayed south of the demilitarized zone.

    The patrols came after officials and experts said a small earthquake near North Korea’s nuclear test site on Saturday was probably not man-made, easing fears Pyongyang had exploded another nuclear bomb just weeks after its last one.

    China’s Earthquake Administration said the quake was not a nuclear explosion and had the characteristics of a natural tremor.

    The CTBTO, or Comprehensive Test-Ban Treaty Organization, which monitors nuclear tests, and officials of the South Korean meteorological agency also said they believed it was a natural quake.

    The earthquake, which South Korea’s Meteorological Agency put at magnitude 3.0, was detected 49 km from Kilju in North Hamgyong Province, where North Korea’s known Punggye-ri nuclear site is located, the official said.

    All North Korea’s nuclear tests registered as earthquakes of magnitude 4.3 or above. The last registered as a magnitude 6.3.

    Tensions have continued to rise around the Korean Peninsula since Pyongyang carried out its sixth test, prompting a new round of U.N. sanctions.

    Trump told the United Nations on Tuesday the United States would “totally destroy” North Korea if it threatened the United States or its allies.

    North Korea’s nuclear tests to date have all been underground, and experts say an atmospheric test, which would be the first since one by China in 1980, would be proof of the success of its weapons program.

    The United States and South Korea are technically still at war with North Korea because the 1950-53 Korean conflict ended with a truce and not a peace treaty.

    The North accuses the United States, which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, of planning to invade and regularly threatens to destroy it and its Asian allies.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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