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  1. #5401
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    Quote Originally Posted by MILLERHIGHLIFE View Post
    Dragic is a Celtics killer.
    Lol! I saw that article. This is why I always want to trade the one trick ponies in Allen and Pat. Teams know if they can stop Giannis they stop the team by us having a limited supply of talented players. Dragic and Crowder presents more dynamic to overwhelm teams trying to just slow down Giannis. Holiday use alot of energy playing 2 way which hurts his offense, Middleton declining and his offense is shaky at times and playing at a fast pace eliminates Brook from the game at times. Therefore adding Crowder and Dragic along with Bobby, Ingles and Carter to pick up the pieces would cause more problems for other teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCK WILD!! View Post
    Lol! I saw that article. This is why I always want to trade the one trick ponies in Allen and Pat. Teams know if they can stop Giannis they stop the team by us having a limited supply of talented players. Dragic and Crowder presents more dynamic to overwhelm teams trying to just slow down Giannis. Holiday use alot of energy playing 2 way which hurts his offense, Middleton declining and his offense is shaky at times and playing at a fast pace eliminates Brook from the game at times. Therefore adding Crowder and Dragic along with Bobby, Ingles and Carter to pick up the pieces would cause more problems for other teams.
    Dragic at this stage of his career is not "more dynamic" than Allen or Pat. 4 years ago maybe. I get Pat and Allen aren't great players in the NBA but you must have an agenda against them if you think Dragic is a game-changer or more dynamic at this point. If he's taking minutes he would take from Jevon which I think Carter has earned the right with his season to play over Dragic and he is better at this point.

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    Off subject, what are the Bucks going to do with Midd next year? He is not worth $40 million and we have to bring Brook back at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    Dragic at this stage of his career is not "more dynamic" than Allen or Pat. 4 years ago maybe. I get Pat and Allen aren't great players in the NBA but you must have an agenda against them if you think Dragic is a game-changer or more dynamic at this point. If he's taking minutes he would take from Jevon which I think Carter has earned the right with his season to play over Dragic and he is better at this point.
    Dragic is an older guy but he can at least create. Pat nor Allen can create. Therefore if they aren't hitting shots they becomes a liability especially by teams constantly hunting them. As for Dragic, I think he should get half of Pat's minutes and then trim a few from Allen, Carter and Holiday.

    And as for Pat and Allen I just don't get why the Bucks just don't upgrade them guys. As I said in other posts that they are too high in our rotation. See I watch every game in NBA daily and it just aggravate me that these teams have better guards and if we had a nice guard in our starting unit we would be deadly. And to be honest I think Allen is worst starting sg in the NBA, if not bottom 3 easily. It's no knock on him it's Bud pressing the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pcs Papa View Post
    Off subject, what are the Bucks going to do with Midd next year? He is not worth $40 million and we have to bring Brook back at least.
    I actually think they should trade him unless he take a significant pay cut. I think I saw a trade with Dallas that we get back like 2 firsts and 2 pick swaps along with Hardaway and Bulluck as salary fillers for Middleton. I was actually thinking we can send them 1st along with our 1st and salary fillers for Lillard

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCK WILD!! View Post
    I actually think they should trade him unless he take a significant pay cut. I think I saw a trade with Dallas that we get back like 2 firsts and 2 pick swaps along with Hardaway and Bulluck as salary fillers for Middleton. I was actually thinking we can send them 1st along with our 1st and salary fillers for Lillard
    That would be amazing!!!!!!

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    Midds can opt out and be a FA. So, wouldn't get anything and then likely couldn't trade him until closer to deadline at the very least if they re-sign him.....it would actually be worse for Bucks cap not to bring him back. I agree he isn't a 30 or 40 mill $$ guy but there are plenty of guys who get that who aren't worth it. Bucks might bring him back short term if he's willing to take less $$$ 2-60 or something. Bucks need to just keep Giannis in the loop as what's going on.

    Then I wouldn't mind trading him. Hopefully Brook would be very short-term 2 year deal as well. Lillard is my favorite non-Buck sou that would be epic a trade for Dame Time lol.


    Where they are in their career, Allen is absolutely as good of a shot creator for others as Dragic, but he's not in that situation nearly as often with GA, Jrue and Midds with the ball in their hands more, even Ingles. Pat almost seems reserved to just jack up 3s this year and it's kind of annoying lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    Midds can opt out and be a FA. So, wouldn't get anything and then likely couldn't trade him until closer to deadline at the very least if they re-sign him.....it would actually be worse for Bucks cap not to bring him back. I agree he isn't a 30 or 40 mill $$ guy but there are plenty of guys who get that who aren't worth it. Bucks might bring him back short term if he's willing to take less $$$ 2-60 or something. Bucks need to just keep Giannis in the loop as what's going on.

    Then I wouldn't mind trading him. Hopefully Brook would be very short-term 2 year deal as well. Lillard is my favorite non-Buck sou that would be epic a trade for Dame Time lol.


    Where they are in their career, Allen is absolutely as good of a shot creator for others as Dragic, but he's not in that situation nearly as often with GA, Jrue and Midds with the ball in their hands more, even Ingles. Pat almost seems reserved to just jack up 3s this year and it's kind of annoying lol.
    I actually think something would go down with Dame next season. I've been noticing they are surrounding him with a lot of youthful guys. It's more of then setting up for the future more than helping Dame in the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCK WILD!! View Post
    I actually think something would go down with Dame next season. I've been noticing they are surrounding him with a lot of youthful guys. It's more of then setting up for the future more than helping Dame in the present.
    With no picks we have to send to get Dames. Couple late first's down the road aren't even worth talking about. Yeah I understand to pay Middleton whatever now. I'm sure we can flip him later as a huge filler in a big deal. But still. I think we always said it would take Middleton and Holiday for Dames. That's overkill and lose depth.

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    Dames would be nice though. He's a cut throat shooter like Curry. Just didn't win any rings yet. Not so sure a BIG 2 would work or not. Would have to be healthy. If one got injured a long time though our season would almost be toast. I guess with Dames in the backcourt. We could go more jumbo line ups! More rebounds.

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    Midds looked like himself last night, scoring with Giannis on the bench, closing. Midds with a casual 31 and 9 with 0 turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MILLERHIGHLIFE View Post
    With no picks we have to send to get Dames. Couple late first's down the road aren't even worth talking about. Yeah I understand to pay Middleton whatever now. I'm sure we can flip him later as a huge filler in a big deal. But still. I think we always said it would take Middleton and Holiday for Dames. That's overkill and lose depth.
    It would be nice to get Dame but for the price of Middleton and Holiday I'll have pass too. Unless Horst can pull a rabbit out of his hat

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    Bucks sure miss Lopez in that Pacers game. We fell flat on our faces to that bottom feeder team. But it's a long season.

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    Great win tonight!! However PatC is still playing crappie. Yet Bud still gives him the most minutes tonight

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    Jevon wasn't good either. Connaughton isn't going to play near as much in the playoffs. Jae, Ingles, Midds, Grayson Allen, Jevon playing alongside Jrue...

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