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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    The Paul George move would be interesting but I think OKC would build around him instead of Westbrook going forward.
    That's how stupid you are!

    Who is gonna take Westbrook's contract at 50M per stupid? OKC will by all means want to go below the lux tax line because they see no future and next season they will have to pay some ...60M in taxation (lux tax + severe penalty for being above the lux tax for too long)...

    The only way they can make a trade that will exceed the 125% rule in values so that they can be below the lux tax (and save 60M), is if they trade with a team that the deal includes a player under the "sign a trade" method, whose new salary is way lower than the previous one, because then, his contract will be valued like his previous contract!

    No other team has such a contract but the Bucks on Hill's contract and the Cavs on JR Smith's contract... Understand stupid? But Paul George isn't going to the Cavs... understand stupid?

    ...and that's the reason Paul George will be a Buck... Now... that's how stupid you are arguing on anything although you know nothing about it... Stupid!

    Now do report me and get me banned... I don't give an F being with people like you who can only argue for the (non-existing) argument their sick mind can think off... Stupid!

    At least you are gonna be "a huppy stupid 50 (altogether) people in this forum"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post
    That's how stupid you are!

    Who is gonna take Westbrook's contract at 50M per stupid? OKC will by all means want to go below the lux tax line because they see no future and next season they will have to pay some ...60M in taxation (lux tax + severe penalty for being above the lux tax for too long)...

    The only way they can make a trade that will exceed the 125% rule in values so that they can be below the lux tax (and save 60M), is if they trade with a team that the deal includes a player under the "sign a trade" method, whose new salary is way lower than the previous one, because then, his contract will be valued like his previous contract!

    No other team has such a contract but the Bucks on Hill's contract and the Cavs on JR Smith's contract... Understand stupid? But Paul George isn't going to the Cavs... understand stupid?

    ...and that's the reason Paul George will be a Buck... Now... that's how stupid you are arguing on anything although you know nothing about it... Stupid!

    Now do report me and get me banned... I don't give an F being with people like you who can only argue for the (non-existing) argument their sick mind can think off... Stupid!

    At least you are gonna be "a huppy stupid 50 (altogether) people in this forum"...
    Now I know why your son turned out the way he did!!!!

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    BUCKS vs. CELTICS in the playoffs, dictates what the Bucks should be looking for their roster to upgraded next season:

    Even additional changes to the floor tactics for the Bucks in game-3 over the many that he did in game one...

    -Mirotic was starting again after having replaced Brown after the first game, but this time he was given 30mins on the floor, either playing at 3 in a "3 towers on the floor" lineup, or playing at 4 with Giannis playing at 5 in a "3 guards on the floor lineup.

    -Rotation was restricted down to only eight players with only Hill, Connaughton and Ilyasova coming from bench.

    -Ilyasova's minutes were restricted to less than 14...

    -Brown (who started in the first game) wasn't used at all.

    -The Bucks played "3 towers on the floor" for more minutes than ever before and avoided Giannis to be double teamed.

    Clearly, by playing "3 towers on the floor", the Bucks spread the floor wide open for Giannis to do his thing... Everytime there was a second player merging to double team Giannis in his many drives towards the rim, Giannis was passing the ball to the periphery... As a result, Giannis ended with 8 assists and the Bucks scored more from beyond the arc than ever before against the Celtics.

    Personally, I see no way that the Celtics can stop the Bucks offense in the following games with this Bucks tactics. They had to widen their defense towards the arc after they "ate" 8 3pts from Middleton in the 2nd game and by doing this, they managed to "half" Middleton's points, but Giannis is having a "party" in the painted area when he is "one on one" and then the rest of the shooters make up more shots than what the Bucks miss from Middleton...

    IMO, the 1st game the Bucks lost was clearly on coach Bud to blame... He should have foreseen the (obvious) tactics that coach Stevens would put on the floor against Giannis and should have never started "3 guards on the floor" with Brown in the starting roster.

    Even more to blame on coach Bud for the first game, is that when he first applied "3 towers on the floor" for the 2nd quarter of game-1, the Bucks "covered" a 17-point Celtics lead and took the lead... Then in the 3rd quarter of game-1 coach Bud went back (for no reason what so ever) to a "3 guards" lineup and got destroyed...

    He ain't a bad coach, but the better coaches are the ones that can realize and react mid-game when they are outmatched in tactics... Coach Bud does fully realize the tactics handicaps only after the game is over and he later
    watches the tape...

    Therefore the conclusions for next season should be the following:

    1. It is more important for the Bucks to keep Mirotic, than keep Middleton, because we have alternatives that can play the 2 (Brogdon), but no other "big" than Mirotic that can play the 3 in a "three tower" line up (given that Giannis is most effective at 4).

    2. We have to add another (big) player that can play 3/4, so that we can retain a "3 towers on the floor lineup" for the whole game if necessary. The Bucks should do all in their power to add Paul George, start him and use Mirotic as to back up both George and Giannis in a small rotation line-up. If we fail to add PG, we should go after one of the Morris twins (Marcus or Markieff), or other similar and start Miro.

    3. Ideally, we should stick with small rotation two way players coming from our bench: four 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and 4/5 in the 2nd unit and another four in the 3rd unit. The other two in the roster can be "multi position" young players (one guard and one forward) to prepare for the future...
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post
    What the quality of Middleton as a player has to do with anything I said above?

    I'm talking about improving the roster further, you are talking about preserving the same roster...

    However... Next season, many other teams will merge as contenders... The Nets, the Bulls, the Nicks, the Magic. the Hawks and the Sixers to say the least from the East, have tons of cap space and it is a 200+ players in free agency this up-coming preseason with additionally one of the better drafts coming up...

    Make no mistake, the Sixers will jump up to another lever next season... Unless we improve the team, we won't be able to contend!

    The thing is that we are full on combo guards that all can play 2&3 on Middleton, Brown, Snell, & Connaughton, but we only have Mirotic that can play 3&4... As a consequence, we can't preserve the roster to play "three towers on the floor" and we are forced to turn to "3 guards on the floor" for each time Nikola has to sit, or is absent due to some injury...

    We therefore need to add another fast leg forward that can play 3&4 well...

    I believe Paul George will be available this off season and the Bucks have a great opportunity to add him, because we are extremely fortunate to have contracts that are "a dream to have" for managers of other teams that want to go below the luxury tax...

    To be more specific... Hill's contract is the best contract in the NBA if used as part in a "sign and trade" deal, because he can be signed at 5-6M annually, but his value on a "sign and trade" deal will count for ...18M! It means that the team that buys his contract will save some 13M of cap space!
    Contenders? The Nets, the Bulls, the Nicks, the magic and the hawks? really. The nets at least have a decent team and could improve and be competitive. The Magic are the only other team from that list that could finish above 500. The Bulls, Knicks and Hawks are in the middle of rebuilds and have no shot at the playoffs, much less compete with an elite team like the Bucks.

    Paul George and Ja Morant are not coming to Milwaukee. There is no trade for us to move up to pick 2. Your posts are basically fantasy. The best thing that can happen to this team is to be able to keep our own. The other option is subtraction. The Bucks are in no position to add talent, but may overspend to bring back this team for another run at the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    Contenders? The Nets, the Bulls, the Nicks, the magic and the hawks? really. The nets at least have a decent team and could improve and be competitive. The Magic are the only other team from that list that could finish above 500. The Bulls, Knicks and Hawks are in the middle of rebuilds and have no shot at the playoffs, much less compete with an elite team like the Bucks.
    All these teams have more than enough cap space and will be significantly better next season... The Bulls would have been in the playoffs this season if they were not the most unfortunate team in the league injury wise... The Hawks have two lottery picks and a ton of cap space to "hit" hard in this free agency. The Knicks have Knox, will have an 1-4 pick and will surely sign one or two All Stars this of season...

    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    Paul George and Ja Morant are not coming to Milwaukee.
    The Bucks are practically "without competition" in setting up an offer for PG... I would say that the chances we have to get PG are 70% or more...

    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    There is no trade for us to move up to pick 2.
    It depends on what team the 2nd pick falls... If the 2nd pick fells with Atlanda or Cleveland, then I would again say that the chances the Bucks have to buy the pick are more than 70%...

    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    Your posts are basically fantasy.
    Is that why they come true?

    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    The best thing that can happen to this team is to be able to keep our own. The other option is subtraction. The Bucks are in no position to add talent, but may overspend to bring back this team for another run at the championship.
    No way any of this happens, unless Giannis is given an improved roster so that he can compete for a championship for each and every season he is with the Bucks, Giannis will leave... and that is out of the question for the Bucks!

    Giannis will happily stay with the Bucks for all his career... There is one requirement he has and sets to the Bucks as an obligation however... the roster to continuously improve so that he can compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post



    No way any of this happens, unless Giannis is given an improved roster so that he can compete for a championship for each and every season he is with the Bucks, Giannis will leave... and that is out of the question for the Bucks!

    Giannis will happily stay with the Bucks for all his career... There is one requirement he has and sets to the Bucks as an obligation however... the roster to continuously improve so that he can compete.
    The Bucks are going to win the championship this season with this team, so this off season will be about defending our world championship. The best way to defend your championship usually is bring everybody back and go for a repeat. Will a repeat be easy? Absolutely not, it will be harder than winning the title this year, but Giannis might decide he likes winning championships in Milwaukee, so don't be surprised if he's much better next year than he was this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    The Bucks are going to win the championship this season with this team, so this off season will be about defending our world championship. The best way to defend your championship usually is bring everybody back and go for a repeat. Will a repeat be easy? Absolutely not, it will be harder than winning the title this year, but Giannis might decide he likes winning championships in Milwaukee, so don't be surprised if he's much better next year than he was this year.
    It's wrong to end up with a conclusion that is based on trivial assumptions...

    1. It's doubtful the Bucks "will win the championship"... I wish we will, but honestly if the Warriors are against us, it will take a lot of luck to achieve this...

    2. Even if we could win the title, things are gonna be much different next season after a 200+ free agency coming up and one of the best drafts ever... All Clippers, Nets & Sixers have the cap space to transform into "monsters", we therefore have to move on if we want to compete... and that's what we should and we'll be doing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post
    It's wrong to end up with a conclusion that is based on trivial assumptions...

    1. It's doubtful the Bucks "will win the championship"... I wish we will, but honestly if the Warriors are against us, it will take a lot of luck to achieve this...

    2. Even if we could win the title, things are gonna be much different next season after a 200+ free agency coming up and one of the best drafts ever... All Clippers, Nets & Sixers have the cap space to transform into "monsters", we therefore have to move on if we want to compete... and that's what we should and we'll be doing!
    It's not doubtful and we don't need to get lucky. The Bucks have a historically good team. They are the 8th team ever to win 45 games by 10 or more points in the regular season. The previous 7 all won the championship. In the playoffs they've been even more dominant winning by 10 or more. The Warriors are only a threat because of past performance. This is not the same Warrior team that won 3 titles. They have no bench, play very little defense and don't play as a team. The Rockets may eliminate them this weekend with KD out. If that happens, the Eastern conference finals series will be the championship. The Rockets wouldn't win more than 1 game against the Bucks in the Finals.

    That's the reason we bring back this roster. The regular season domination was something that even the Warriors couldn't do. The Bucks have been the best team all season, but you can't win the championship till June. The Warriors are very similar to the Celtics this year in that they don't like each other and it shows on the court. You've been undervaluing this team the entire season. I guess we didn't go 82 - 0, so it wasn't good enough for you. I'm sure winning the championship won't be enough for you either.

    Several of those 200+ free agents are our FA's and everyone else will be trying to get to our level, to compete with us for the championship. We have a great team with great chemistry and that can mean more than talent. More than likely if we did add PG in the off season as you suggest, we'd likely take a step back and wouldn't be as good. This notion that you need 3 or 4 all stars to compete for a championship is complete BS. Sure if you have 3 or 4 all stars and surround them with 4 or 5 great role players and you learn to play as a team with no Eggo, your chances would be pretty good. But I would bet that this team can win at least 2 championships if we can keep the same group together, which won't be easy with all our FA's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    It's not doubtful and we don't need to get lucky. The Bucks have a historically good team. They are the 8th team ever to win 45 games by 10 or more points in the regular season. The previous 7 all won the championship. In the playoffs they've been even more dominant winning by 10 or more. The Warriors are only a threat because of past performance. This is not the same Warrior team that won 3 titles. They have no bench, play very little defense and don't play as a team. The Rockets may eliminate them this weekend with KD out. If that happens, the Eastern conference finals series will be the championship. The Rockets wouldn't win more than 1 game against the Bucks in the Finals.

    That's the reason we bring back this roster. The regular season domination was something that even the Warriors couldn't do. The Bucks have been the best team all season, but you can't win the championship till June. The Warriors are very similar to the Celtics this year in that they don't like each other and it shows on the court. You've been undervaluing this team the entire season. I guess we didn't go 82 - 0, so it wasn't good enough for you. I'm sure winning the championship won't be enough for you either.

    Several of those 200+ free agents are our FA's and everyone else will be trying to get to our level, to compete with us for the championship. We have a great team with great chemistry and that can mean more than talent. More than likely if we did add PG in the off season as you suggest, we'd likely take a step back and wouldn't be as good. This notion that you need 3 or 4 all stars to compete for a championship is complete BS. Sure if you have 3 or 4 all stars and surround them with 4 or 5 great role players and you learn to play as a team with no Eggo, your chances would be pretty good. But I would bet that this team can win at least 2 championships if we can keep the same group together, which won't be easy with all our FA's.
    Being delusional is not a good thing... We have some 25-30% chances against GSW in the finals this season but no more...

    For next season, the "looks" of the league will be much different with many teams stepping up after that 200+ free agents off season... At least the Sixers and the Nets in the East and the Clippers in the West will be looking dreadful with the additions they'll be making in their existing roster.

    The Bucks will be "1st targeted destination" for free agents and players wanting to be traded for next season and the wise thing for the F.O. to do, is take advantage of it so that we can progress a step further.

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    I believe the most important postgame interview after we ended the series against the Celtics is this one: https://www.nba.com/bucks/video/team...190508-2600835 particularly when Nikola comments on Malcom's return and then saying "it's big adjustment for me playing (back to) SF (after so long)"...

    Clearly Nikola isn't nowhere near yet in contributing 100% of what he is capable of with the team and his injury that has kept him out for a month, hasn't helped at all, but it's clear that he becomes significantly better for every next game he plays and I believe he will be near 100% until the finals... OTOH, Malcom has being the most effective player out of the lot of our roster to play SG...

    I therefore believe, that a Bledsoe, Brogdon, Mirotic, Giannis, Lopez starting lineup for next season, will be much more effective than the Bledsoe, Brogdon, Middleton, G , BL we mostly played this season, or the (even more effective) Bledsoe, Middleton, Mirotic, G, BL we are now playing in the playoffs (which will be getting much better game after game as Mirotic will be progressing his integration with the team to 100%)...

    Therefore one can conclude that keeping Middleton for next season will be the wrong thing for the team to do because:
    1. He will be very expensive to have coming from bench.
    2. Mirotic is better that Middleton to play SF in the current Bucks roster... He is spacing the floor even more for Giannis, he "attracts" a "big" to guard him (taking the load off Giannis) and he can drive to the rim with his fast legs much better than Khris does... On defense, his superiority over Middleton playing SF is clear evident... He collects many more rebounds, he can block "bigs" in the paint, he has faster legs as to keep up with the fastest of guards and he has the size & length to protect the perimeter from 3pt shooters.
    3. Whatever Middleton does when playing SG, Brogdon does a "click" better in both offense and defense... He is a (slightly) more effective shooter, he drives more to the rim, he is a more effective defender and he "reads the game" better and he plays "pick and roll" with Giannis (which Middleton doesn't)...
    4. Creating a "locker room competition" between Middleton and Brogdon on who starts, would be the wrong thing to do in what is "the best locker room in the league".
    5. Brogdon (like Giannis) is a "generative Bucks player" (he has only being in a Bucks uniform on the NBA courts)... this matters a lot in locker room relationships...
    6. Brogdon has more "future potential" than Middleton... he is only in his 3rd season with the league...
    7. We have plenty 2/3 combo guards on Middleton, Brown, Snell and Connaughton... It will be far more valuable for the roster if we replace one with another big 3/4 combo forward as to back up Miro and keep playing "3 towers on the floor" for all the time we need to do so for as long the game lasts...
    8. Middleton is too valuable to "just let go"... If we can work a "sign and trade" deal with his cooperation, he can bring us back extremely valuable roster additions at low cost...

    I believe that Middleton targets the Hawks and the Magic as his prime off season destinations... He is from S. Carolina and he wants to be "back home"... Additionally I believe he thinks that in either of these teams he can be the "leader of the team" if he goes there and both teams have plenty of cap space and a promising future potential... One can't stop thinking that we can get a 1st pick of the Hawks or have access to Vucevic or Gordon or Bamba (or two of them in a "package") if we can cooperate with Khris in a "sign and trade" so that he gets his "5 year max"... I'm pretty sure John Hammond is eyeing Khris as we speak...
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    I feel bad for you guys, you get Bucky as a fanboy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    I feel bad for you guys, you get Bucky as a fanboy..
    Beat it from here troll... Go back to your mouse hole with the rest of your Amigos that are remaining in the Lakers circus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post
    I believe the most important postgame interview after we ended the series against the Celtics is this one: https://www.nba.com/bucks/video/team...190508-2600835 particularly when Nikola comments on Malcom's return and then saying "it's big adjustment for me playing (back to) SF (after so long)"...

    Clearly Nikola isn't nowhere near yet in contributing 100% of what he is capable of with the team and his injury that has kept him out for a month, hasn't helped at all, but it's clear that he becomes significantly better for every next game he plays and I believe he will be near 100% until the finals... OTOH, Malcom has being the most effective player out of the lot of our roster to play SG...

    I therefore believe, that a Bledsoe, Brogdon, Mirotic, Giannis, Lopez starting lineup for next season, will be much more effective than the Bledsoe, Brogdon, Middleton, G , BL we mostly played this season, or the (even more effective) Bledsoe, Middleton, Mirotic, G, BL we are now playing in the playoffs (which will be getting much better game after game as Mirotic will be progressing his integration with the team to 100%)...

    Therefore one can conclude that keeping Middleton for next season will be the wrong thing for the team to do because:
    1. He will be very expensive to have coming from bench.
    2. Mirotic is better that Middleton to play SF in the current Bucks roster... He is spacing the floor even more for Giannis, he "attracts" a "big" to guard him (taking the load off Giannis) and he can drive to the rim with his fast legs much better than Khris does... On defense, his superiority over Middleton playing SF is clear evident... He collects many more rebounds, he can block "bigs" in the paint, he has faster legs as to keep up with the fastest of guards and he has the size & length to protect the perimeter from 3pt shooters.
    3. Whatever Middleton does when playing SG, Brogdon does a "click" better in both offense and defense... He is a (slightly) more effective shooter, he drives more to the rim, he is a more effective defender and he "reads the game" better and he plays "pick and roll" with Giannis (which Middleton doesn't)...
    4. Creating a "locker room competition" between Middleton and Brogdon on who starts, would be the wrong thing to do in what is "the best locker room in the league".
    5. Brogdon (like Giannis) is a "generative Bucks player" (he has only being in a Bucks uniform on the NBA courts)... this matters a lot in locker room relationships...
    6. Brogdon has more "future potential" than Middleton... he is only in his 3rd season with the league...
    7. We have plenty 2/3 combo guards on Middleton, Brown, Snell and Connaughton... It will be far more valuable for the roster if we replace one with another big 3/4 combo forward as to back up Miro and keep playing "3 towers on the floor" for all the time we need to do so for as long the game lasts...
    8. Middleton is too valuable to "just let go"... If we can work a "sign and trade" deal with his cooperation, he can bring us back extremely valuable roster additions at low cost...

    I believe that Middleton targets the Hawks and the Magic as his prime off season destinations... He is from S. Carolina and he wants to be "back home"... Additionally I believe he thinks that in either of these teams he can be the "leader of the team" if he goes there and both teams have plenty of cap space and a promising future potential... One can't stop thinking that we can get a 1st pick of the Hawks or have access to Vucevic or Gordon or Bamba (or two of them in a "package") if we can cooperate with Khris in a "sign and trade" so that he gets his "5 year max"... I'm pretty sure John Hammond is eyeing Khris as we speak...
    Delusional - Mirotic is a nice player, but is half the player that Kris Middleton is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckalis View Post
    It's wrong to end up with a conclusion that is based on trivial assumptions...

    1. It's doubtful the Bucks "will win the championship"... I wish we will, but honestly if the Warriors are against us, it will take a lot of luck to achieve this...

    2. Even if we could win the title, things are gonna be much different next season after a 200+ free agency coming up and one of the best drafts ever... All Clippers, Nets & Sixers have the cap space to transform into "monsters", we therefore have to move on if we want to compete... and that's what we should and we'll be doing!
    So here is something for you to consider ole wise one! So if the Bucks handle Toronto in 4 or 5 games. Then play the warriors in the finals with a healthy KD and we dispose of one of the greatest 2 or 3 teams of all time in 5 or 6 games. Then will you admit that this Milwaukee Bucks team as is, is the greatest basketball team ever assembled. As such, there would be no reason to try to upgrade the roster on the best team ever to play.

    I agree that it's not likely that we destroy the Warriors with KD, but it's possible. Through 11 playoff games the Bucks are a plus 166 points. The 3rd highest total in history. They've also won 6 games by 20 or more points, which is tied for the most such games in a playoff season in history. So when we beat Toronto again by 20 or the Warriors by 20, that will mean this team had the most 20 point playoff wins in history.

    Bottom line is your watching history unfold in front of your eye's and all you can think of is making changes to improve the team. Maybe you should enjoy the moment and appreciate what we have and that's the Milwaukee Bucks, the best team in the NBA.

    This team is a good match up for the Warriors and if they are healthy, it's a 50/50 guess as to who will win, but if they are not healthy, which it appears, could be the case. Then the NBA championship is coming to Milwaukee.

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