Free Agency, Trade Ideas, Rumors V.7

[Wes_Craven]

Bucks three coaching finalists are Nurse,Atkinson and Griffin.

Fine with either of the 3 and I believe we're overthinking this - choose the coach get a PG and give this another year.

[BUCK WILD!!]

Two of our better performers come playoffs for one underperformer and an unknown while pairing them with our biggest playoff underperformer (Jrue).

Grant is a guy you try to acquire and bring into the fold of your star players..not swapping out one of them.

U have to realize that Middleton don't carry the weight of star player as of these days. That's why when we give trade ideas it's about being somewhat realistic. As for Jrue I think he was over used in our Heat series. He is an locked down guard defender and situational when guarding 3 and 4s. Bud just went nuts and drove the lawn mower from Milwaukee to Chicago. Meaning he should have used the right guy on Butler a.k.a Giannis or at least implement a defensive scheme. In return of the over use of Holiday led to inefficient offense.

[BUCK WILD!!]

Grant averaged over 20 ppg last year. Also I doubt the Blazers do that deal without picks which the Bucks don't have. If there is a 3-team deal with Bucks getting Grant/No. 10/Josh Green which would get them younger and more athletic that would be outstanding with Grant being an upgrade over Middleton defensively and can score 20+ also so right now he might be close to as good of a player as Midds but different skillsets.

I agree! I think any trade that includes a Jermi Grant, a quality young and a pick is a trade we should run to make it happen

[BUCK WILD!!]

Bucks three coaching finalists are Nurse,Atkinson and Griffin.

It appears Giannis want Griffin

[BUCK WILD!!]

Right - we have to keep in mind how he get's those points. Grant is a transition/catch-&-go player..why give up premium assets for that when the Bucks already have the best at it (Giannis) that's being criminally underutilized. Grant can't operate the pick-&-roll anywhere effective enough to diversify the offense - it's exactly why he's the type of player a team targets to bring in to your core.

Middleton's 'in-between' game is what allows him to fit and mesh so well with Jrue/Giannis which neither have or any good at. Unless you think the next coach turns us into the 2014 Spurs moving Khris (again - if not getting a star in return) requires to have someone coming back with that skillset.

Horst has kept Middleton a year too long. Unfortunately Middleton is not that 2021 championship guy no more. If we can get 2 quality guys for Middleton I would be more than happy. Actually we would be better if we do in my honest opinion.

Any 2
Kuzma
Hield
Oubre
Simon
Grant
Rozier
Bogdonavic - Atl
Bogdonavic - Det
Murray
Turner
Clarkson
Vanfleet
Trent
Reeves

[Wes_Craven]

No 2 of those guys is helping win a championship sans Khris Middleton.

[Wes_Craven]

It's beginning to show how truly handicapped we are having the lowest IQ superstar..possibly in the history of the league.

Think of the top 5 players in the NBA now: Jokic - LeBron - Steph - KD - Embiid. Place Middleton on either of their teams today and we'd be foaming to get someone like Khris to the Bucks..but why? None of them mentioned have questions regarding their BBIQ rather that they're missing that extra piece (and health). If this past season has shown us that if you rip away a guy like Khris and don't bring another star/player with similar skillset and IQ we'd be a sub .500 team.

Giannis is our superstar..Jrue is the great two-way player - yet our most important players are Khris and Brook just from BBIQ alone. There isn't anyone else on the team (besides maybe Ingles this year) who understand the basketball nuances more than they - if we are to lose either one (or possibly both) without competent replacements we're an average basketball team.

[BUCK WILD!!]

It's beginning to show how truly handicapped we are having the lowest IQ superstar..possibly in the history of the league.

Think of the top 5 players in the NBA now: Jokic - LeBron - Steph - KD - Embiid. Place Middleton on either of their teams today and we'd be foaming to get someone like Khris to the Bucks..but why? None of them mentioned have questions regarding their BBIQ rather that they're missing that extra piece (and health). If this past season has shown us that if you rip away a guy like Khris and don't bring another star/player with similar skillset and IQ we'd be a sub .500 team.

Giannis is our superstar..Jrue is the great two-way player - yet our most important players are Khris and Brook just from BBIQ alone. There isn't anyone else on the team (besides maybe Ingles this year) who understand the basketball nuances more than they - if we are to lose either one (or possibly both) without competent replacements we're an average basketball team.

It's the low IQ of our management. Anybody who is competing for a championship want handicap their star with a bunch of misfit pieces. Can u image Jokic or Tatum having a Grayson Allen and Pat C as their 1 2 punch at sg. How about a coach that didn't scheme against a banged up team in Miami that really relied on 1 guy to get them their. At the end of the day Middleton is not a superstar. He was a good player that played at star level in our championship year. And now everyone can see Middleton as a player that is declining and becoming more injury prone. Therefore it is smart to move on, especially at 40 mil yearly. Besides we should be happy and except it as win if we can end up with any 2 guys on that list for Middleton.

As for Lopez, he is a good situational center. Meaning he is someone u want against the the big centers in the league. Unfortunately when teams decide to go small he can't keep up. And this is another dumb decision by management to not have a athletic big to run and switch in smaller lineups as a backup for Lopez. We get by all season with poor roster construction until the playoffs start then fans want magnify everything Giannis do wrong bc we are not clicking like the regular season.

[MILLERHIGHLIFE]

Holiday wants to retire with the Bucks.

[gopackgo87]

It's beginning to show how truly handicapped we are having the lowest IQ superstar..possibly in the history of the league.

Think of the top 5 players in the NBA now: Jokic - LeBron - Steph - KD - Embiid. Place Middleton on either of their teams today and we'd be foaming to get someone like Khris to the Bucks..but why? None of them mentioned have questions regarding their BBIQ rather that they're missing that extra piece (and health). If this past season has shown us that if you rip away a guy like Khris and don't bring another star/player with similar skillset and IQ we'd be a sub .500 team.

Giannis is our superstar..Jrue is the great two-way player - yet our most important players are Khris and Brook just from BBIQ alone. There isn't anyone else on the team (besides maybe Ingles this year) who understand the basketball nuances more than they - if we are to lose either one (or possibly both) without competent replacements we're an average basketball team.

LOL Joel Embiid. Doesn't even want the ball in biggest moments. Or Harden. Mental midgets. They play so tight in big moments. Rather have Giannis for sure.

I like Midds he was actually pretty good in the playoffs. But I think they need a guy more athletic now. Maybe give it another shot. But if I can get Grant/10/Josh Green in the deal I am doing that deal.

As for Lopez, I love Brook and what he has provided the Bucks but to me this past year felt like the last hurrah. Had a fantastic season but I would rather move on a year too soon than a year too late. I just have a feeling Brook is never going to replicate it, get hurt again. I think a team will give him a bigger deal as I wouldn't want to commit more than 2 years.

[Wes_Craven]

I'm speaking of the best 5 players not named Giannis..overall point being Middleton on either of their teams he benefits them - so why not Giannis (hint: he does)?

I think you almost have to have Brook back - he's too important to keep Giannis' mins at center down through the regular season.

It's less about athleticism and more that this team just wasn't healthy all year - Crowder/Ingles/Connaughton being injured/not ready for the season Giannis and Khris obviously in/out of lineup..even Jrue missed time early on. This team just didn't have the time to become y'know..a team.

[BUCK WILD!!]

LOL Joel Embiid. Doesn't even want the ball in biggest moments. Or Harden. Mental midgets. They play so tight in big moments. Rather have Giannis for sure.

I like Midds he was actually pretty good in the playoffs. But I think they need a guy more athletic now. Maybe give it another shot. But if I can get Grant/10/Josh Green in the deal I am doing that deal.

As for Lopez, I love Brook and what he has provided the Bucks but to me this past year felt like the last hurrah. Had a fantastic season but I would rather move on a year too soon than a year too late. I just have a feeling Brook is never going to replicate it, get hurt again. I think a team will give him a bigger deal as I wouldn't want to commit more than 2 years.

It is best to sell on Lopez while his stocks is high. And even if we do keep him on a cheaper contract it is smart to get an athletic backup big.

[BUCK WILD!!]

I'm speaking of the best 5 players not named Giannis..overall point being Middleton on either of their teams he benefits them - so why not Giannis (hint: he does)?

I think you almost have to have Brook back - he's too important to keep Giannis' mins at center down through the regular season.

It's less about athleticism and more that this team just wasn't healthy all year - Crowder/Ingles/Connaughton being injured/not ready for the season Giannis and Khris obviously in/out of lineup..even Jrue missed time early on. This team just didn't have the time to become y'know..a team.

It's time to take Old Middleton Horse to the Old Town Road and release him. The light is getting dim and u have face it buddy. Besides if we do sign him it doesn't take away the fact that other teams are getting better. Which means athleticism is very important for we maximize what Giannis does best and that's running, transition basketball. And athletic defenders are also needed to help Holiday defend guys like Butler instead just being content with one trick ponies just standing around in crucial playoff games.

As for Crowder, it's just a big question mark. We don't know what he got left. Though he didn't look really good when he did play but he could have been out of rhythm. Ingles is someone Ill keep only as a 3 to 4 mil a year guy. Connaughton and Grayson is just over paid for what they bring to the table to a championship caliber roster.

[gopackgo87]

It's time to take Old Middleton Horse to the Old Town Road and release him. The light is getting dim and u have face it buddy. Besides if we do sign him it doesn't take away the fact that other teams are getting better. Which means athleticism is very important for we maximize what Giannis does best and that's running, transition basketball. And athletic defenders are also needed to help Holiday defend guys like Butler instead just being content with one trick ponies just standing around in crucial playoff games.

As for Crowder, it's just a big question mark. We don't know what he got left. Though he didn't look really good when he did play but he could have been out of rhythm. Ingles is someone Ill keep only as a 3 to 4 mil a year guy. Connaughton and Grayson is just over paid for what they bring to the table to a championship caliber roster.

Also it's clear Midds is going to be back as he helped decide the head coach. He was pretty good in the playoffs. I agree Lopez helps keep GA minutes down at C but can sign an athletic backup big to take some minutes there. I am fine with bringing Lopez back but I just think he's gonna get more elsewhere. But he loves MKE so he may return.

[BUCK WILD!!]

Also it's clear Midds is going to be back as he helped decide the head coach. He was pretty good in the playoffs. I agree Lopez helps keep GA minutes down at C but can sign an athletic backup big to take some minutes there. I am fine with bringing Lopez back but I just think he's gonna get more elsewhere. But he loves MKE so he may return.

It would be wild to keep all these old slow guys around Giannis. We have to get decent young talent bc all these old guys would flame out or just be too slow when the playoffs start.