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    Best Fit For Lamarcus Aldridge?

    What possible trade partner makes the most sense for Lamarcus Aldridge? Could San Antonio just move him in an "addition by subtraction" move to get the most assets while his value is low to get out of his contract? Or could the LA experiment work with more time? This post season wasn't encouraging.

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    He's not an addition by subtraction guy. If they want CP3 though letting him go is probably the realistic move they need to make in which case he's worth being moved.

    I think MIA is a good spot for him next to Whiteside because he prefers playing PF and they had interest in the past. It's tough though for him to stay at PF in today's small ball NBA but I think it can work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    He's not an addition by subtraction guy. If they want CP3 though letting him go is probably the realistic move they need to make in which case he's worth being moved.

    I think MIA is a good spot for him next to Whiteside because he prefers playing PF and they had interest in the past. It's tough though for him to stay at PF in today's small ball NBA but I think it can work.
    Miami wouldn't want to take a chance because of his heart concerns. Especially after Bosh's situation. His contract is an albatross for many teams. I don't think Pop would ideally keep him. If they can somehow convince CP3 and Blake to take less $ while clearing out bad contracts, anything is possible for San Antonio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade n Fade View Post
    Miami wouldn't want to take a chance because of his heart concerns. Especially after Bosh's situation. His contract is an albatross for many teams. I don't think Pop would ideally keep him. If they can somehow convince CP3 and Blake to take less $ while clearing out bad contracts, anything is possible for San Antonio.
    His contract is for one year and $21 million. That's not an albatross. Chandler Parsons for three extra years and 3.5 times the total money is an albatross. Aldridge is making market value for one year.

    His value is realistically a mid-first round pick on the trade market. There are a few teams in that range of the draft pick, cap space and inclination to trade for him. Chicago could find someone to take Robin Lopez's deal for free and then trade No. 16. If Atlanta feels they are going to lose Paul Millsap they could give the Spurs No. 19 for Aldridge to replace him on a short term basis. And Portland has both No. 15 and No. 20, and their contracts are small enough to move in multiple transactions to make it work if they wanted an Aldridge reunion. It's feasible is what I'm saying. Aldridge is still a valuable player.

    That means that the Spurs probably want to keep him. He'd be a great fit with Chris Paul. Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are the guys to move. Hell, what kind of message does it send to Paul if you trade Aldridge just two years after signing him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsanity View Post
    His contract is for one year and $21 million. That's not an albatross. Chandler Parsons for three extra years and 3.5 times the total money is an albatross. Aldridge is making market value for one year.

    His value is realistically a mid-first round pick on the trade market. There are a few teams in that range of the draft pick, cap space and inclination to trade for him. Chicago could find someone to take Robin Lopez's deal for free and then trade No. 16. If Atlanta feels they are going to lose Paul Millsap they could give the Spurs No. 19 for Aldridge to replace him on a short term basis. And Portland has both No. 15 and No. 20, and their contracts are small enough to move in multiple transactions to make it work if they wanted an Aldridge reunion. It's feasible is what I'm saying. Aldridge is still a valuable player.

    That means that the Spurs probably want to keep him. He'd be a great fit with Chris Paul. Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are the guys to move. Hell, what kind of message does it send to Paul if you trade Aldridge just two years after signing him?
    Even if it's $21 mill, that's still a lot of cap space for a guy putting up 16 and 7 in the post-season and plays a bit too soft. In their situation, it's an albatross because it takes away a lot of flexibility from the Spurs if they hold onto him and have to pay CP3 big $. They still need to figure out if Patty Mills will stay too. Will Manu and TP retire? If you have LA there, it takes away some flexibility for a guy who doesn't fit as well as others.

    Compared to Parsons, it isn't an albatross. But still, LA's deal hangs on the Spurs' necks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsanity View Post
    His contract is for one year and $21 million. That's not an albatross. Chandler Parsons for three extra years and 3.5 times the total money is an albatross. Aldridge is making market value for one year.

    His value is realistically a mid-first round pick on the trade market. There are a few teams in that range of the draft pick, cap space and inclination to trade for him. Chicago could find someone to take Robin Lopez's deal for free and then trade No. 16. If Atlanta feels they are going to lose Paul Millsap they could give the Spurs No. 19 for Aldridge to replace him on a short term basis. And Portland has both No. 15 and No. 20, and their contracts are small enough to move in multiple transactions to make it work if they wanted an Aldridge reunion. It's feasible is what I'm saying. Aldridge is still a valuable player.

    That means that the Spurs probably want to keep him. He'd be a great fit with Chris Paul. Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are the guys to move. Hell, what kind of message does it send to Paul if you trade Aldridge just two years after signing him?
    If the Spurs stretch Parker, salary dump Gasol, Lee/Dedmon opt out and they renounce Simmons, Mills, Manu... then that gets the Spurs up to $36,385,667 of cap space by my count according to Spotrac. HOWEVER, that does not include empty roster spot holds not does it factor in any 1st round pick cap holds (they currently have #29). Between the roster holds it'd probably end up that CP3 needs to take a few million less than his true max. But let's say he does. Here's what they have:

    CP3/Murray
    Green/Forbes
    Leonard/Bertans
    Anderson
    LMA

    Between their draft pick(s), the room exception and vet min signings they need to add some front court depth but that's a pretty nice start.

    Still. the question is, if you're CP3, is that really a team that's going to beat GS? Just look at the top of the roster:

    Curry > CP3
    Durant > Leonard
    Dray. Green > Aldridge
    Klay > Danny Green.

    Granted, those first two comparisons are close but the next 2 (especially Klay and Danny Green) are easily in GS's favor. And through bird rights GS's going to be able to keep Iggy and Livingston to go with McCaw. Room exception and MLE guys will prefer to GS to SA as well. So realistically, GS still has better top of the roster players and better depth to go with it.

    If I'm CP3, I don't leave tens of millions on the table to "chase a ring" if that's the situation. It just isn't good enough to justify it IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    If the Spurs stretch Parker, salary dump Gasol, Lee/Dedmon opt out and they renounce Simmons, Mills, Manu... then that gets the Spurs up to $36,385,667 of cap space by my count according to Spotrac. HOWEVER, that does not include empty roster spot holds not does it factor in any 1st round pick cap holds (they currently have #29). Between the roster holds it'd probably end up that CP3 needs to take a few million less than his true max. But let's say he does. Here's what they have:

    CP3/Murray
    Green/Forbes
    Leonard/Bertans
    Anderson
    LMA

    Between their draft pick(s), the room exception and vet min signings they need to add some front court depth but that's a pretty nice start.

    Still. the question is, if you're CP3, is that really a team that's going to beat GS? Just look at the top of the roster:

    Curry > CP3
    Durant > Leonard
    Dray. Green > Aldridge
    Klay > Danny Green.

    Granted, those first two comparisons are close but the next 2 (especially Klay and Danny Green) are easily in GS's favor. And through bird rights GS's going to be able to keep Iggy and Livingston to go with McCaw. Room exception and MLE guys will prefer to GS to SA as well. So realistically, GS still has better top of the roster players and better depth to go with it.

    If I'm CP3, I don't leave tens of millions on the table to "chase a ring" if that's the situation. It just isn't good enough to justify it IMO.
    Great post, good points.


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    The best fit for Aldridge is playing C for the Spurs. But he doesn't want to play C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    The best fit for Aldridge is playing C for the Spurs. But he doesn't want to play C.
    Exactly. Dude's 260 pounds, 6'11" and doesn't shoot threes. It's not rocket science.

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    Ryan Anderson for LMA right now please!

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    Best Fit For Lamarcus Aldridge?

    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsanity View Post
    His contract is for one year and $21 million. That's not an albatross. Chandler Parsons for three extra years and 3.5 times the total money is an albatross. Aldridge is making market value for one year.

    His value is realistically a mid-first round pick on the trade market. There are a few teams in that range of the draft pick, cap space and inclination to trade for him. Chicago could find someone to take Robin Lopez's deal for free and then trade No. 16. If Atlanta feels they are going to lose Paul Millsap they could give the Spurs No. 19 for Aldridge to replace him on a short term basis. And Portland has both No. 15 and No. 20, and their contracts are small enough to move in multiple transactions to make it work if they wanted an Aldridge reunion. It's feasible is what I'm saying. Aldridge is still a valuable player.

    That means that the Spurs probably want to keep him. He'd be a great fit with Chris Paul. Tony Parker and Pau Gasol are the guys to move. Hell, what kind of message does it send to Paul if you trade Aldridge just two years after signing him?
    If the Spurs stretch Parker, salary dump Gasol, Lee/Dedmon opt out and they renounce Simmons, Mills, Manu... then that gets the Spurs up to $36,385,667 of cap space by my count according to Spotrac. HOWEVER, that does not include empty roster spot holds not does it factor in any 1st round pick cap holds (they currently have #29). Between the roster holds it'd probably end up that CP3 needs to take a few million less than his true max. But let's say he does. Here's what they have:

    CP3/Murray
    Green/Forbes
    Leonard/Bertans
    Anderson
    LMA

    Between their draft pick(s), the room exception and vet min signings they need to add some front court depth but that's a pretty nice start.

    Still. the question is, if you're CP3, is that really a team that's going to beat GS? Just look at the top of the roster:

    Curry > CP3
    Durant > Leonard
    Dray. Green > Aldridge
    Klay > Danny Green.

    Granted, those first two comparisons are close but the next 2 (especially Klay and Danny Green) are easily in GS's favor. And through bird rights GS's going to be able to keep Iggy and Livingston to go with McCaw. Room exception and MLE guys will prefer to GS to SA as well. So realistically, GS still has better top of the roster players and better depth to go with it.

    If I'm CP3, I don't leave tens of millions on the table to "chase a ring" if that's the situation. It just isn't good enough to justify it IMO.
    It just mean that you as CP3 is all about the money instead of doing what's best to winning titles (or chasing rings) which he hasn't got one yet and doubt he ever will unlike Duncan and Dirk who both took less to bring in more talent to win titles. Whether he will take less to bring in more talent for LAC will tell me what kind of person he really is other than the loyalty to his coach and Clippers fans whether they are genuine or as an excuse to stay to get more money.

    Well we already know what your intentions would be when speaking for/as CP3 which is greed above all
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    Quote Originally Posted by eDush View Post
    It just mean that you as CP3 is all about the money instead of doing what's best to winning titles (or chasing rings) which he hasn't got one yet and doubt he ever will unlike Duncan and Dirk who both took less to bring in more talent to win titles. Whether he will take less to bring in more talent for LAC will tell me what kind of person he really is other than the loyalty to his coach and Clippers fans whether they are genuine or as an excuse to stay to get more money.

    Well we already know what your intentions would be when speaking for/as CP3 which is greed above all
    Dirk is a bad example... Not hard to take less when you know your owner will cover you when on the decline... see his recent contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    If the Spurs stretch Parker, salary dump Gasol, Lee/Dedmon opt out and they renounce Simmons, Mills, Manu... then that gets the Spurs up to $36,385,667 of cap space by my count according to Spotrac. HOWEVER, that does not include empty roster spot holds not does it factor in any 1st round pick cap holds (they currently have #29). Between the roster holds it'd probably end up that CP3 needs to take a few million less than his true max. But let's say he does. Here's what they have:

    CP3/Murray
    Green/Forbes
    Leonard/Bertans
    Anderson
    LMA

    Between their draft pick(s), the room exception and vet min signings they need to add some front court depth but that's a pretty nice start.

    Still. the question is, if you're CP3, is that really a team that's going to beat GS? Just look at the top of the roster:

    Curry > CP3
    Durant > Leonard
    Dray. Green > Aldridge
    Klay > Danny Green.

    Granted, those first two comparisons are close but the next 2 (especially Klay and Danny Green) are easily in GS's favor. And through bird rights GS's going to be able to keep Iggy and Livingston to go with McCaw. Room exception and MLE guys will prefer to GS to SA as well. So realistically, GS still has better top of the roster players and better depth to go with it.

    If I'm CP3, I don't leave tens of millions on the table to "chase a ring" if that's the situation. It just isn't good enough to justify it IMO.
    I don't think it's as simple as saying "the Warriors' stars are better than San Antonio's." First of all, Popovich is involved here, and even with a healthy Kerr the coaching gap there is rather enormous. Second, there's far less question about how the crunch time offense operates. There's not going to be any jawing out of San Antonio's locker room about not running enough of this or that. Third, again, this is the Spurs. Are you really prepared to bet they won't find other meaningful players off of the scrap heap? The room exception got them Dedmon last year who's going to get close to starter money this offseason. And finally, Curry might be better than CP3, but you'd definitely feel better about CP3 guarding Curry than vice versa. The Warriors are probably favored in that series, but it's a lot closer than you're making it out to be.
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    Best Fit For Lamarcus Aldridge?

    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Dirk is a bad example... Not hard to take less when you know your owner will cover you when on the decline... see his recent contract
    It still a good example cause he took less when his team felt they still had a chance to compete for a championship if they had enough money to sign or keep key players, so he sacrificed to make it happen. With the recent big jump in salary cap and they can no longer compete, it's a no brainer decision which CP3 should follow as well when he/team can no longer compete.

    They're not the Spurs where competing for championships is sustainable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsanity View Post
    I don't think it's as simple as saying "the Warriors' stars are better than San Antonio's." First of all, Popovich is involved here, and even with a healthy Kerr the coaching gap there is rather enormous. Second, there's far less question about how the crunch time offense operates. There's not going to be any jawing out of San Antonio's locker room about not running enough of this or that. Third, again, this is the Spurs. Are you really prepared to bet they won't find other meaningful players off of the scrap heap? The room exception got them Dedmon last year who's going to get close to starter money this offseason. And finally, Curry might be better than CP3, but you'd definitely feel better about CP3 guarding Curry than vice versa. The Warriors are probably favored in that series, but it's a lot closer than you're making it out to be.
    I think his whole argument is CP3 won't leave money on the table regardless of all the other so called reasons he laid out. I personally doubt he leave not due to money but on flexibility where he would insist on using his creativity and instinct on running an offense where it might not be possible under Pop, who had to agree to not use LMA as a center in order to sign him which they might be regretting now as it would be his ideal position to take advantage of his inside post game against centers which is why he spurned the Knicks
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