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View Poll Results: Is Kawhi Leonard The Greatest '3D' Player of All Time?

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  1. #16
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    Does volume count? If so Klay Thompson moves WAY up the list.

    Thankfully there are more things to evaluate a player that their ability to hit a 3 and play defense. Here we have a question directly comparing Bruce Bowen and CP3.

    Kawhi is one of the best 3 and D players of all time ... if you limit your evaluation to just those 2 aspects.

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    Its arguable that Leonard may not even be the best 3 & D player in this current era.

    CP3 is damn good at both as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerHouse View Post
    Its arguable that Leonard may not even be the best 3 & D player in this current era.

    CP3 is damn good at both as well.
    I think it's safe to say Kawhi is better at both. Kawhi is a 38.8% shooter on 3.4 attempts per game, CP3 is a 37% shooter on 3.2 attempts per game, and Kawhi is a two-time DPOY. Paul definitely is awesome at both, but Kawhi is better at those two specific parts of the game.
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    Calling Leonard a 3&d player is a gross misuse of the concept.

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    No, and its obvious that some dont realize what a 3 and d guy is. a 3 and d guy is somebody who is just that, plays d, shoots open 3s, Kawhi leonard is a super star. it would be like calling Steph curry a good 3pt shooter and thats it. your ignoring his other qualities for two that he is very good at.

    3 and d guys are 4th or 5th option players who are there to play D and hit open shots. to pretend that thats Kawhi leonard is laughable.


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    Like everyone has said, "3D/3 and D" is a term we use for guys who are not at Kawhi's level. They're great role players who basically are just there for spacing on offense and guarding the other team's stud perimeter offensive player...but aren't the focal point of the offense or the star player. Kawhi is much more than that. The term was not created to describe players like him...super stars.

    If the question was "what stars have shown Kawhi's mix of three point shooting and shutdown defense" we'd probably be to the point already. And he's in elite company there. Very few players have ever existed that do those two things as well as he does while not being a "role player". Probably fewer than 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manram View Post
    like everyone has said, "3d/3 and d" is a term we use for guys who are not at kawhi's level. They're great role players who basically are just there for spacing on offense and guarding the other team's stud perimeter offensive player...but aren't the focal point of the offense or the star player. Kawhi is much more than that. The term was not created to describe players like him...super stars.

    If the question was "what stars have shown kawhi's mix of three point shooting and shutdown defense" we'd probably be to the point already. And he's in elite company there. Very few players have ever existed that do those two things as well as he does while not being a "role player". Probably fewer than 5.
    i almost agree with this, however, i disagree that they are necessarily guarding other teams best players, it would be ideal, but to me, a 3 and d guy means more that he is a capable defender while spacing the floor.

    Example, courtney lee would be a 3 and d guy, while kyle korver would be a 3 point specialist solely, lee does not nessisarily have to be guarding lebron or the best player, but he can provide good defense when called upon.


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    Quinn and valade's lists are verry good, but I would eliminate the superstars from the conversation to make it guys whose primary focus was playing defense and spot shooting from the perimeter.

    While their lists covered most of the guys I would have mentioned, one guy stands out who I haven't seen listed: Robert Horry. Not an elite defender, but very good, and the guy was legitimately dangerous beyond the arc in the playoffs.

    I was going to make a case for Artest, but he was a borderline star early in his career and he was extremely streaky beyond the arc.

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    This is just stupid, a 3 and D player is a guy that is a great defender but offensively can only catch and shoot pretty much. Raja Bell, Battier, Bowen and Beverly. Aminu not the greates defender but versatile and shot pretty well last year. Calling Leonard 3 and D is just stupid and lazy with a lack of basketball knowledge.
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    I think people are missing the point. The OP isn't calling him "just a 3 and D player" he's saying Kawhi is the greatest player with those skillsets.

    And Raja Bell is criminally underrated. Nice to see him get some burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    I think people are missing the point. The OP isn't calling him "just a 3 and D player" he's saying Kawhi is the greatest player with those skillsets.

    And Raja Bell is criminally underrated. Nice to see him get some burn.
    I'm glad you're someone who understands this.

    It's like saying we can't call Chris Paul and John Stockton "great facilitators" because they "simply do so much more than just facilitate". No kidding?! lol It doesn't change the fact they were also great facilitators...

    I'm sorry if people refuse to accept that players can have the whole package in terms of basketball skillsets but still be able to discuss 2 skills in particular (shooting 3's and defense). Of all the players who could shoot 3's and play defense (3D), is Kawhi the greatest?
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