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    Aren't the Warriors in impending cap hell next season?

    Cap is going to be at around 102 million next season, they have to sign Curry to a Super max which is going to be 42 million a year, Durant will be allowed to go for 36 million a year. Bringing the cap number to 112 million just for Klay, Steph, Draymon, and KD. Even if KD took only his player option for next season at 27 they'd still be over. They'd lose Livingston, Iggy, and anyone else unwilling to sign for the minimum.

    Unless massive paycuts are willing for Curry and Durant this these 4 can't play together next season and Curry has already been vastly underpaid for years. How are they pulling this off?

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    they could easily flip Klay to a team with a lot of space to absorb his deal for picks/expiring contracts if they want to save money. But they won't be a repeat LT offender for an extra year, so why not try and go with it one more time with those main 4 as the core?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    they could easily flip Klay to a team with a lot of space to absorb his deal for picks/expiring contracts if they want to save money. But they won't be a repeat LT offender for an extra year, so why not try and go with it one more time with those main 4 as the core?
    because the sixers deserve klay and will give them a nice package for him

    Next years lakers first plus a future first of ours... plus okafor or Holmes and a TLC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    they could easily flip Klay to a team with a lot of space to absorb his deal for picks/expiring contracts if they want to save money. But they won't be a repeat LT offender for an extra year, so why not try and go with it one more time with those main 4 as the core?
    The point is they can't sign all 4 of them at all next season without the players deciding to take far less. Has nothing to do with the tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    The point is they can't sign all 4 of them at all next season without the players deciding to take far less. Has nothing to do with the tax.
    sure they can... they can go well over the luxury tax for their own players... they wont but they easily could. Unless I am missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    sure they can... they can go well over the luxury tax for their own players... they wont but they easily could. Unless I am missing something.
    You are, they don't have Durant's bird rights meaning they can't go over the cap to resign him.

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    If everything goes smooth this year and they win the title then I believe they will take less than max deals. A team of Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green and 11 vet min players is still better than any other roster in the league. Add in the fact that you'll still get the "ring chasers" who will sign for the min.

    If they lose however, that may be a different story. IMO Green is the odd man out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    The point is they can't sign all 4 of them at all next season without the players deciding to take far less. Has nothing to do with the tax.
    doesn't this apply to Durant?

    Non-Bird exception[edit]

    "Non-qualifying free agents" (those who do not qualify under either the Larry Bird exception or the early Bird exception) are subject to the non-Bird exception. Under this exception, teams can re-sign a player to a contract beginning at either 120% of his salary for the previous season, or 120% of the league's minimum salary, whichever amount is higher. Contracts signed under the Non-Bird exception can last up to four years (down from six under the 2005 CBA).

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    Durant to the Celtics this offseason!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    You are, they don't have Durant's bird rights meaning they can't go over the cap to resign him.
    sign him first... then go ham with curry

    I wonder if that is allowed lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    doesn't this apply to Durant?

    Non-Bird exception[edit]

    "Non-qualifying free agents" (those who do not qualify under either the Larry Bird exception or the early Bird exception) are subject to the non-Bird exception. Under this exception, teams can re-sign a player to a contract beginning at either 120% of his salary for the previous season, or 120% of the league's minimum salary, whichever amount is higher. Contracts signed under the Non-Bird exception can last up to four years (down from six under the 2005 CBA).
    You're right. So Durant would have to give up about 6 million dollars next season. I guess that's do able.

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    This has all been broken down before, but the long story is that KD will have to take slightly less next year before he gets the super-max (as in take 31 mil next year instead of 35 or so) if they want a chance to retain Iggy and Livingston. They're a printing press money wise so going into the luxury tax for a year or two won't be of concern to them if it means keeping the big 4 (that take echoed by ownership). They can also look to make a Klay trade a couple years down the line to lessen the blow. Highly possible they no longer will want Iggy after this season though (he is certainly on his last legs, and an improving McCaw on his rookie deal may make that easier).

    All in all, if the players want to stay, they can all stay (and be filthy rich with both salaries and being on the most popular team in the league who is the favorite to win multiple titles). Bench wise, they'll have to rely on ring-chasers and rookie contracts on top of an MLE, etc. Myers is an absolute beast when it comes to this minutia, he'll figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    You're right. So Durant would have to give up about 6 million dollars next season. I guess that's do able.
    yeah I mean he left OKC, so he was clearly willing to take less at this point of his career.

    Look, they will struggle to keep all 4, long term. In order to do so, they will get crushed by the LT. But, they still have this year, and next, before they even need to sweat making a tough decision on who to move.

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    Endorsements alone will make up for the 6 mill loss though... What about tax? Legit asking because the warriors tax must be huge

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    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/07/sign...mount-in-taxes

    yea he clearly will take less at this point in all honesty... He will do anything for a ring

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