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    Great Quotes

    To stay away from Christianity because part of the Bible is offensive assumes if there is a God he wouldn't have any views that upset you.~ Timothy Keller

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    To stay away from Christianity because part of the Bible is offensive assumes if there is a God he wouldn't have any views that upset you.~ Timothy Keller
    Sure.

    But I'm thinking those who are staying away from Christianity can find a lot better reasons than that.

    Still, this quote kind of proves that one of God's alleged traits -- omni benevolence -- is impossible, no?
    "Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."

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    "a potato that says he's a tomato is still a potato."

    I don't remember who said it, but it was clearly one of the great thinkers of our time... OR someone who thinks potatoes can talk. And who knew... potatoes are boys. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions -- Blaise Pascal
    “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, at least fails while daring greatly.” -- Teddy Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions -- Blaise Pascal
    Ooooh a quote we can test!!!

    Let's look at the worst people in history...

    Hitler? Religion caused his genocide? Nope... social Darwinism!

    Somebody go next!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    To stay away from Christianity because part of the Bible is offensive assumes if there is a God he wouldn't have any views that upset you.~ Timothy Keller
    Sure.

    But I'm thinking those who are staying away from Christianity can find a lot better reasons than that.

    Still, this quote kind of proves that one of God's alleged traits -- omni benevolence -- is impossible, no?
    Just because you can't see the benevolence in what He does doesn't mean it isn't benevolent. I would bet your kid(s) don't think you sending them to school is very benevolent, but sure enough you are doing it for their own good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Just because you can't see the benevolence in what He does doesn't mean it isn't benevolent. I would bet your kid(s) don't think you sending them to school is very benevolent, but sure enough you are doing it for their own good.
    Yep.

    Just because countless numbers of people suffer unspeakable horrors doesn't mean there isn't benevolence going on in there somewhere.

    Oh, but that's not OMNI benevolence, is it? See, OMNI benevolence is different from just plain old benevolence, ain't it?
    "Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Ooooh a quote we can test!!!

    Let's look at the worst people in history...

    Hitler? Religion caused his genocide? Nope... social Darwinism!

    Somebody go next!!!
    Hitler stated he was a Christian in Mein Kampf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Ooooh a quote we can test!!!

    Let's look at the worst people in history...

    Hitler? Religion caused his genocide? Nope... social Darwinism!

    Somebody go next!!!
    Hitler stated he was a Christian in Mein Kampf...
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    And totally against Christianity in many other places and in his practices...

    But let's not facts get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Just because you can't see the benevolence in what He does doesn't mean it isn't benevolent. I would bet your kid(s) don't think you sending them to school is very benevolent, but sure enough you are doing it for their own good.
    Yep.

    Just because countless numbers of people suffer unspeakable horrors doesn't mean there isn't benevolence going on in there somewhere.

    Oh, but that's not OMNI benevolence, is it? See, OMNI benevolence is different from just plain old benevolence, ain't it?
    So someone who is Omni-benevolent must stop others from hurting themselves and others?

    Is that your argument?

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    Great Quotes

    Mein Kampf was written in 1925... clearly his views had changed over time...

    "The religions are all alike, no matter what they call themselves. They have no future- certainly none for the Germans. Facism, if it likes, may come to terms with the Church. So shall I. Why not? That will not prevent me from tearing up Christianity root and branch, and annihilating it in Germany."

    Sounds awfully atheistic if you ask me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Ooooh a quote we can test!!!

    Let's look at the worst people in history...

    Hitler? Religion caused his genocide? Nope... social Darwinism!

    Somebody go next!!!
    So its not true? For centuries if not a few thousand years, military leaders have not waged battle in the name of God and thanked God for their victories -- as if he was on their side?

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    Great Quotes

    Deaths in the name of religion, even over thousands of years, pale in comparison to the murders committed in one century alone by atheistic societies.

    Hitler- estimates are as high as 80 million deaths attributed to WW2... because of Social Darwinism... the natural conclusion for Evolution. No gods... unless you consider evolution to be a "god".

    Mao- 40 to 70 Million lives... no gods

    Stalin- 20 million lives under his regime... no gods.

    So the quote by Pascal clearly is wrong... but then again Pascal never saw the rise of Darwinism.

    Either way, Pascal never said he was against religion... only that men, who are inherently evil, will use anything , and especially religion, to gain control and power... that's not news.

    Btw, Pascal was a Christian.
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    Belief is a wise wager. Granted that faith cannot be proved, what harm will come to you if you gamble on its truth and it proves false? If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation, that He exists."

    ~ Also Blaise Pascal

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Just because you can't see the benevolence in what He does doesn't mean it isn't benevolent. I would bet your kid(s) don't think you sending them to school is very benevolent, but sure enough you are doing it for their own good.
    Yep.

    Just because countless numbers of people suffer unspeakable horrors doesn't mean there isn't benevolence going on in there somewhere.

    Oh, but that's not OMNI benevolence, is it? See, OMNI benevolence is different from just plain old benevolence, ain't it?
    So someone who is Omni-benevolent must stop others from hurting themselves and others?

    Is that your argument?
    Kind of, although now you've alluded to omnipotence. So if he has the power to do everything but still lets bad things happen he can't be omni benevolent.

    If something bad has to happen in order for something good to happen, THAT isn't Omni benevolence
    "Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."

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