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    Trades format/rules

    Trades:

    All trades will be sent to warfelg and by a GM of all teams involved. The trade must be responded to that every team in the trade agrees to the terms.

    If a trade is deemed unfair by the unnamed trade committee then we can veto the trade by a majority vote.


    When writing up a trade please do it in this format:
    Team 1 gets:
    Player A (Insert Salary # and Roster Bonus if there is one)

    Team 1 give:
    Player B (Insert Cap Minus Signing Bonus for that year)

    Cap Before: (Amount of cap before the trade happened)
    Cap After:

    Team 2 gets:
    Player B (Insert Salary # and Roster Bonus if there is one)

    Team 2 give:
    Player A (Insert Cap Minus Signing Bonus for that year)

    Cap Before: (Amount of cap before the trade happened)
    Cap After:

    All trades involving draft picks must have the round and pick number or it will be rejected. This rule will be strictly enforced. The trade committee is not a nanny, it is not our job to sort out picks and salaries for you.
    Last edited by warfelg; 01-10-2018 at 06:01 PM.

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    Free Agency rules/Salary minimum = PM bids start at $35mil

    Free Agency:

    1. All contracts are for one season. Bidder can specify deals in the contract if they want like Base Salary (BS), Signing Bonus (SB), Roster Bonus (RB) but if they donít, Iíll assume that the money is guaranteed fully.

    2. There will be no limit on how many offers you can retract but keep in mind that if you retract an offer and then re-offer a contract to the player there is a VERY good chance you will not be in the running for the player. I will try and give a player update right away saying if the player is fine with the bid or not. Again, it's very unlikely. The player will do in his best interest.

    3. You are not allowed to have offers totaling more than your salary cap. Example: If you have 10 mil in cap space you cannot offer 3 free agents each 8 mil deals. That would total 24 mil and put you over 14 mil. Even if you feel one of the players will not sign, you must retract your offer.

    4. If you trade a newly signed player, first consult the player to ask if accepts the trade. Some newly signed free agents will be ok with this. Some may not if they signed with your team due to specific reasons. This may also effect your ability to lock in free agents.

    5. Free agents do not respond well to insults of other teams bidding. There will be multiple factors taken into account when signing free agents beyond money and team talent.

    6. After there have been a decent amount of bids, Iíll try to give an update on the FA player after a couple of days. If there is only one bid the player could sign within 3-5 days. Don't pester players to sign. Some players like to take their time, some think there is a better marked for them than what is being offered.

    7. You cannot restructure a free agents contract after you have signed them. The contract you gave them is what they get.

    8. Also please specify which team you are in your first post to the player. I know what team most of you are on but it still helps.

    9. You can not edit your posts. If you do, you can only edit the description not the amount.

    10. After a players bid goes to 35M there will be a PM bid. The opening bid must be less than this amount (example: Opening bid cannot be $35,000,001; but it can be $34,999,999) In this case all teams that are interested in bidding for this player will have one day to get their PMs into me. As soon as 24 hours have passed no more PMs will be accepted for that player. One PM per team. If a trade occurs that changes your cap room and has not been approved before the 24 hour notice, it will be acceptable to assume the trade will be approved and necessary adjustment to your bid will be accepted. However, if no trade was made and two PMs by the same team has been sent to me I will be accepting the 1st PM that I receive. (Please don't abuse that rule)

    11. Veteran Minimum Salary Benefit Rule
    When qualified, a player with four (4) or more years of NFL experience can earn his total minimum salary, but have a cap figure that reflects two years of experience Ė or in 2017, $630,000. The contract must be for only one year, and must not contain combined bonus money (signing, roster, workout) that exceeds $90,000.

    For instance, letís pretend Frank Gore signs with the Miami Dolphins in 2018 on a 1 year, minimum salary contract. With 10+ years of experience, heíll be slotted for a $1,015,000 base salary. With four or more years of experience (11), and a 1 year contract, Gore qualifies for the veteran cap hit benefit. His 2018 cap figure with the Dolphins would be $630,000.

    Had he received a bonus (signing, roster, workout) up to the maximum $90,000, he would have received a total $1.105M contract, with a $1M base salary, an $90,000 signing bonus, and a cap figure of $720,000 (630+90).

    With plenty of veterans being released, or not signed back thus far in 2018, the use of the Minimum Salary Benefit Rule becomes useful both for older players looking for jobs, and teams looking to minimize their cap dollars.

    12. Minimum Salaries

    Years of NFL experience-Salary

    Code:
    0: 495,000
    1: 570,000
    2: 645,000
    3: 720,000
    4-6:805,000
    7-9: 930,000
    10: 1,000,000
    Last edited by Wrench; 02-13-2019 at 09:04 PM.

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    Old Stuff

    We will have a normal 2 round draft. After that we'll go to a bidding system.

    In the first round each team has 2 hours.

    In the 2nd round each team has 1 hour.

    If you have back to back picks your time slot will count as one pick. Your time slot is given next to your teams pick. The time is in EST. If the team before you has picked you do not have to wait for your time slot. However, you are allowed until the end of that time slot, even if you log off.

    After your time is up your team will be skipped. You can send your pick to me or any other GM to make your pick on time.

    The clock will be on pause from 1 am EST - 8 am EST. If someone is supposed to be on in this time, you cannot skip them until 10 am EST the following day.

    If for some reason you know do not want to pick please post that you forfeit your pick. If you got a question PM/VM warfelg.
    Last edited by warfelg; 01-10-2018 at 06:07 PM.

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    NFL Mock Rules

    Rules

    Salary Cap:

    You MUST keep track of your salary cap. Predetermined individuals will have control over the salaries in google docs. My suggest is for you to download that file and keep track of it. We want to keep this game as fair and fun as possible.

    You cannot go over the cap at any time. If you do it will be handled accordingly.

    Some teams will be starting over the cap. That means they must cut salary (via cuts and trades) to below cap max before they are allowed to

    • Draft
    • Sign free agents
    • Franchise tag
    • Accepting Team Options


    If you want to cut a player your team will be saving their base salary (BS) and their roster or other bonus (RB). The signing bonus (SB) stays with the team.

    Trading players isnít much different, the team receiving a player has to account for that players BS and RB. The team trading the player has to account for the SB just as if they were cutting him.

    A playerís cap is how much that player is costing you, which means BS + SB + RB = player cap for that year.

    I realize some of you arenít that great at math so if you have any questions you can ask Super or any other GM. Google docs will be the official salaries. The Google docs will have built in formulas for tracking salaries, and are easy to use. If you keep it on there it will be simple to know where you stand at all times.

    You'll need 51-53 players on your roster by the end of the mock.

    The Salary Cap is set at 190M.

    Restructuring Contracts:
    Each team is limited to the amount of players that they can restructure. Each team may approach 3 players and ask them to restructure a contract. One restructure offer is allowed at a time.

    To restructure a players contract you must post in the restructure thread with the previous salary, SB, and RB, and the proposed salary, SB, and RB and reasoning why the player should take a pay cut. I will respond to each reply.

    Once a team reaches 3 offers to players, additional offers can be appealed for to the commissioner via PM AFTER all 3 restructures have been used. This will be done on a case by case basis. One extra restructure max.

    You cannot restructure a free agents contract after you have signed them. The contract you gave them is what they get.

    Players on rookie contracts cannot have their salaries restructured as per league rules.

    Free Agency:

    All contracts are for one season. Bidder can specify deals in the contract if they want like BS, SB, RB but if they donít, Iíll assume that the money is GUARANTEED.

    There will be no limit on how many offers you can retract but keep in mind that if you retract an offer and then re-offer a contract to the player there is a VERY good chance you will not be in the running for the player. I will try and give a player update right away saying if the player is fine with the bid or not. Again, it's very unlikely. The player will do in his best interest.

    You are not allowed to have offers totaling more than your salary cap. Example: If you have 10 mil in cap space you cannot offer 3 free agents 8 mil deals. That would put you over 14 mil. Even if you feel one of the players will not sign, you must retract your offer. If you go over the Salary Cap while offering deals none of your current offers will be valid until you retract enough offers to get back under.

    If you trade a newly signed player, you must first consult the player to ask if accepts the trade. All trades will be voided without the newly signed player's consent.

    Free agents do not respond well to insults of other teams bidding. There will be multiple factors taken into account when signing free agents beyond money and team talent.

    After a players bid goes to 35M there will be a PM bid. Blind bids are FULLY GUARANTEED. In this case all teams that are interested in bidding for this player will have one day (24 hours) to get their PMs into me. As soon as 24 hours have passed no more PMs will be accepted for that player. One PM per team. If a trade occurs that changes your cap room and has not been approved before the 24 hour notice, it will be acceptable to assume the trade will be approved and necessary adjustment to your bid will be accepted. However, if no trade was made and two PMs by the same team has been sent to me I will be accepting the 1st PM that I receive. (Please don't abuse that rule). Bids must be at least 35M. Once it gets to bidding whoever has the highest bid will sign the player.

    After there have been a decent amount of bids, Iíll try to give an update on the FA player after a couple of days. If there is only one bid the player could sign within 3-5 days.

    Undrafted Free Agents (UDFA) - All UDFA's are now automatically sign with the first team that offers them a contract. UDFA's cost $495,000. Teams may make one post and list the UDFA's they're signing.
    ***NEW*** - There is a max of 5 UDFA signings per team per 12 hour span.

    DO NOT at any point PM the player agent about signing a free agent. This is considered tampering and will result in fines and/or loss of draft picks


    Trades:

    All trades will be sent to Wrench - Super. - Warfelg
    If a trade is deemed unfair by the TC, then it will be veto'd. The teams will be notified and can attempt to redo the trade. Let me say with 100% certainty that we as the TC are not out to get you. If we veto a trade that means there is good ****ing reason that we veto'd the trade. Do not ***** moan and carry on about it.

    Trading of cash is not allowed.


    Trades should look like this

    Team A Sends
    Player X - 10M BS, 1M RB ; 4M SB (Dead Money by trading team)
    1st (15th overall)

    Team B Sends
    Player Y - .5M BS, .5M RB ; 0 SB
    Player Z - 5M BS, .5M RB ; 5M SB (Dead Money by trading team)
    2nd ( 40th overall)
    3rd (55th overall)
    6th (199th overall)

    Team A's Salary Before: 135M
    Team A's Salary After: 130.5M

    Team B's Salary Before: 115M
    Team B's Salary After: 119.5M


    Draft:

    The draft will be two rounds. The rest of the draft will be a bidding system.

    For the bidding format you will bid your draft pick. After two days of being open the thread will close and the person with the highest draft pick bid will sign the player for minimum.

    Salaries in rounds 1 and 2 are noted in the NFL Mock Google Drive Folder -

    In round 1 and 2 I will give each team a time slot.

    Relationship to Real-Life:

    All retirements that happen in real-life happen in here too. So, plan according if you have a player that is possible considering retirement. If a player retires after clubhouses lock, he will be considered active for the game.

    All arrests that happen in real-life happen in here too.

    Any injuries that might occur over the time of the mock happens in here too. If a player on your roster has a potential career ending injury, you may try to appeal his cap hit. There are no guarantees, but there is a chance the hit could be appealed.

    End of the Offseason:

    At the end of the offseason weíll have our usual voting system where GMs will vote on every team excluding their own. Top 12 teams will be in the playoffs with the top 4 seeds getting byes. All playoff voting will happen in the NFL main forum. Only your roster will be posted with base formations.
    Last edited by Wrench; 02-08-2019 at 09:59 AM.
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    Holdouts

    Players can and will holdout from playing. These are the 5 reasons for which a player will hold out.

    1.) Player thinks he deserves a bigger contract, holds out unless GM gives it to him or talks him out of it
    2.) Player plays 2 positions over the course of the year. Gets franchise tagged for the position that pays the least. Player holds out unless traded or paid the amount for the higher paying franchise tag
    3.) Player receives an insulting low restructure offer. Holds out until cut or traded
    4.) Player promised a starting position and the minutes that being a starter entails. Holds out when another is promised his position or minutes until the situation is rectified.
    5. Team signs a player that threatens that players starting position and the starter is upset about it.

    To deal with a holdout, a GM must respond in the Holdouts thread. A GM can do a few things to rectify a player holding out. They can talk a player out of it. Offer the player a new contract, or trade the player. Offering a holdout a new contract does not count as a restructure offer.
    Last edited by Super.; 02-17-2017 at 05:28 PM.
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    Clubhouse Rules

    You are expected to keep clubhouses up to date.

    At bare minimum you must keep your current salary obligations updated at all times. GMs will have 4 hours to update their rosters after trades or cutting players. If you cannot meet the deadline, please PM me.

    There will be clubhouse checks randomly (both announced and unannounced) throughout the mock, any team that isn't within spec, your team will suffer a fine

    Clubhouse fines
    1st - Warning
    2nd - 500k
    3rd+ - 1M
    Last edited by Super.; 11-30-2016 at 02:38 PM.
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    Roster Bonus

    New Rules (as of 2016) for the Roster Bonus

    On March 1st at 12:01AM EST all roster bonus will be guaranteed. Before they're treated like salary for purposes of cutting, trading, and restructuring. Afterwards roster bonus's will be treated like signing bonuses and eaten when the player is cut or traded.
    Last edited by Super.; 02-21-2019 at 11:56 PM.
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    Salary Thread

    TEAM SALARIES

    The team salaries are set up with formulas. You can copy and save to edit for your own tracking. Added is a total cap calculator.

    At some point before trading starts the team salary page will have your available picks to trade as well.

    DRAFT PICKS INC. COMP PICKS

    DRAFT PICK SALARIES
    Last edited by Super.; 01-08-2019 at 01:41 AM.
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    League Contraction & Draft Picks

    As of 2017 Teams will be selected via a draft. There will be 28 picks. The 4 teams that are not drafted will have any players that are still under contract enter the draft. Any UFA, RFAs, and ERFAs will become free agents. However, at the Commissioners discretion the following players will instead enter free agency if their teams are not selected

    Tom Brady
    Aaron Rodgers
    Matt Ryan
    Russell Wilson
    Drew Brees
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Cam Newton
    Matthew Stafford
    Andrew Luck
    Philip Rivers
    Von Miller
    Khalil Mack
    Aaron Donald
    Julio Jones
    Antonio Brown
    Odell Beckham Jr
    DeAndre Hopkins
    Rob Gronkowski



    Any remaining players would then be able for selection in the draft at draft pick salaries. For example if Nate Solder was drafted, he would be at the salary of that pick, not his old one.

    This not only will eliminate the utterly terrible teams, but increase both free agency and increases the value of draft picks.
    Last edited by Wrench; 02-10-2019 at 11:38 AM.
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    Garbage

    Go to the link below and Sign up/Log in.

    http://nflmock.chatango.com/



    Super Edit: Choose an easy name like "YournamePSD" and try and avoid numbers or x's

    FYI PEOPLE, CHATANGO WILL NOW BLOCK YOU FOR 15 MINUTES FOR "NON-NONSENSICAL POSTING.

    PHRASES LIKE 'K' AND 'AHHH' AND 'HAHA' TRIGGERS OUT. IT MAKES YOU POST SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE.
    Last edited by warfelg; 01-17-2018 at 09:32 PM.

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    We can use this to sext you can send images..mmmmmmm

    Can we message other people in that who are online directly? Do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    We can use this to sext you can send images..mmmmmmm

    Can we message other people in that who are online directly? Do you know?
    I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

    I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.

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    I just sent Thomas a pm, if we can add the groups embed html code we can have the live chat room box (and other features) on the site. I can't promise it can be done but it's worth trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soop View Post
    I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

    I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.
    haha. No that's fine. I think we already know not to do that. I was just surprised it could take it right from my phone's cam.

    But if you do the @ thing everyone can see it so if I wanted to go back and forth for like talking about a trade that I don't want anyone to see, I need to use PM's or whatever, that's what I'm getting at I guess. If that makes sense?

    I'm on PC now but I can private chat you, nice. This should work just fine. That's all I was worried about.
    Last edited by Norm; 12-10-2016 at 08:30 PM.
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    Boobs. I was eating *** one time and she farted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soop View Post
    I left images/videos/links on, if you guys want it off just say so. Shouldn't be a problem if people don't abuse it with porn.

    I think if you type the "@" before their name they get the notification.
    guess who's going to get DM'd Giannis pics?

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