2016/2017 Regular Season and Playoff Thread

[MagicBucsSox]

Is Aaron Gordon a Franchise player or just a guy?

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Honestly mbs I have said it on Twitter to many people ...

You hear so often "everyone is on the table but AG is off limits"

"AG is our only untouchable"

Lets be honest he isn't that good guys.... He can dunk and play d ... That's it! Yes he is super young and yes he has potential... But the dude doesn't even score 15 very often ... He is so inconsistent too his shot is like a damn roller coaster.....

We are just a mess guys we really are

[MagicBucsSox]

Exactly, I think he'll thrive with a real PG , but I'm so tired of seeing 9pts 3-8fg% in the box score. I said it then, I'll say it now, Julius Randle should've been the pick

[RLundi]

I think he's trying to work back from his injury. Besides that, he's just too inconsistent, but the talent is there. He's exploded for 30+ a couple of times this season, and last season he was actually a good NBA player by many metrics. I'm a little worried that it seems like he's regressed this year but at least some of that is probably due to a position change and a new coach. I never and still don't think AG has superstar potential, but I absolutely can see him in the mold of Draymond Green/Shawn Marion. Might take a couple more years of seasoning to accomplish but we just need to be patient. He's only 21. He isn't our franchise player, but I really think he's gonna be an important piece of the puzzle. That makes this upcoming draft all the more important if we pick a future superstar. Forget the playoffs, just devote ourselves to the youth movement of Elf, AG, Vucevic, and Mario and the next couple of first round picks.

[MagicBucsSox]

He doesn't have to he extra curricular toughness to be those guys

[StreetKing]

AG was drafted because we couldn't get Wiggins/Parker/Embid. He is super athletic but not skilled. He does bring elite perimeter defense but his shooting and ball handling need work. He is young and could improve on these thing but I don't ever see him being an all star. The bigger problem is we are trying to build around him with thoughts like this

"We need to get a forward who can shoot 3s but guard 4s on defense to fit with AG"

Why are we trying to build around Gordon. He is a player that should be playing off others not the foundation of a winning team. The warriors didn't build around draymond they built around the splash brothers. No one on this 21 win team is untouchable, if the right deal comes along trade anyone on this team. Don't forget he is up for an extension this summer and how much do you want to pay this guy averaging 11 pts

[MagicBucsSox]

Fournier is a bench player. I can't believe Oladipo is gone. F'n Rob man.and Aaron Gordon is nothing but Deandre Jordan but shorter, no rim protection and a dependent scorer off alley oops. Kid isn't good.

[StreetKing]

I don't want oladipo either. Tired of guys who can't shoot or score on a consistent basis. Whoever we draft sign or trade for needs to be able to shoot and score. No more of these athletes that will shoot over time and never develop their shots.

[macc]

Is Aaron Gordon a Franchise player or just a guy?

Tough to say but I think he has the highest ceiling of any player on our team. He just needs that confidence that great players have. He has the talent.

[RLundi]

Quite simply, we have a pathetic team, with no hope on the horizon. I had high hopes for Ross but it was probably just fool's gold. At 26, he is what he is.

I keep trying to give Gordon a chance, but he's merely a role player. I assume he can get better, but he's not a star and probably won't ever be one in this league.

Payton is not a starting caliber PG in today's NBA. I give him chance after chance, especially when he teases us with near-triple doubles. But the kid just cannot shoot, and it's really hard to suddenly just teach that.

I hate Fournier. I don't really have a justification, I just don't like him. He shouldn't be a starter either.

Vooch is hit or miss. One day, 24-12-2 on 8-15 shooting. The next 4-14 shooting.

Hopelessness all around. And the worst thing is, even if we get a top-3 pick, how many years are we gonna have to sit around waiting for his development? How many years until he becomes a plus player? 3? 4? All the while, the same sorry group that we have right now will have made incremental improvements to be league average players.

It is a very difficult time to be a Magic fan right now.

End of rant.

[MagicBucsSox]

I can't believe this GM paid Fournier all this money. Like the guy isn't a starter.

[MagicBucsSox]

Aaron Gordon should not be extended. He's not good.

[StreetKing]

I wouldn't say he is not good. He is a good player. He provides elite athleticism and defense. But he should not be the player you're building around. You put him on a team with star and he is a complimentary piece. I want to extend for the right price. 4 year, 50 million is reasonable to me. If he rejects let him test the market in restricted free agency next summer.

[RLundi]

I wouldn't say he is not good. He is a good player. He provides elite athleticism and defense. But he should not be the player you're building around. You put him on a team with star and he is a complimentary piece. I want to extend for the right price. 4 year, 50 million is reasonable to me. If he rejects let him test the market in restricted free agency next summer.

He's not signing for anything less than $15M a year, and probably will get something closer to $17-18M. The days of reasonable contracts are over.

[rapjuicer06]

This team is a joke. I just couldn't get myself to watch this team. They don't have a good player on the team. Vuc is ok, Hezonja is a joke, Fournier is a 6th man, or 7th man.

We could potentially get a very good player, a solid starter, and maybe 2 bench players. This team is sad