2016/2017 Regular Season and Playoff Thread

[5ass]

I'm with 5ass.... Why trade the 5th pick when his value is at its lowest? Better to keep him since we don't even know if he is a bust yet since we refuse to play him.

Seeing a lot of Vuc for Crowder talk today

I don't see Vucevic netting us Crowder but its pretty close. I love Crowder, and wanted us to trade Harris and a first for him. Apparently Hennigan tried to trade for him back then. Crowder is pissed off at Celtics fans for cheering Gordon Hayward yesterday. I don't blame Crowder. every year it semis the Celtics want to replace him. Last offseaaon with KD and next offseason with Hayward. As for Millsap, trading for him means putting ibaka at center. I'm not sure if ibaka wants to play center. We still have to resign him in the offseason.

[StreetKing]

I think Crowder was just joking with Boston fans. We have been interested in Milsap before so it wouldn't surprise me if we made a move for him but I think he would be expensive to get.

[5ass]

This game could've been much better. The refs ****ed us. That female ref blew every call against the magic. She's terrible. No I'm not being sexist, I'm just mentioning she's a female to identify that *****. LOL

And wtf was Vogel doing? Why did he bench AG and kill his momentum twice when he had it going? He played Jeff Green the first 7 minutes of the 4th quarter instead of AG. I kept waiting for that substitution to come but AG only came into the game with 5 minutes left and the game pretty much out of hand. AG subbed in for Meeks, not Green... I don't get why Vogel is playing Green so much. He was trash defensively tonight like he is most of the time. He let Korver get some easy buckets. AG was awesome tonight. Good to see that hard work he put in paying off. You can see how far that shot has come since college.

[TrAv=MaGiCfReAk]

Refs sucked and Vogel has me real worried ....

[StreetKing]

AG has been playing well. always brings energy. EP is playing better offensively but his defense is not good. i like Biz but he's not giving us much. I just think he needs to be on a better scoring team so he doesn't get exposed for his lack of offense.

Ric Bucher reports Butler is available. I say we pounce. It's not often an All star becomes available.

[mrnore77]

This game could've been much better. The refs ****ed us. That female ref blew every call against the magic. She's terrible. No I'm not being sexist, I'm just mentioning she's a female to identify that *****. LOL

And wtf was Vogel doing? Why did he bench AG and kill his momentum twice when he had it going? He played Jeff Green the first 7 minutes of the 4th quarter instead of AG. I kept waiting for that substitution to come but AG only came into the game with 5 minutes left and the game pretty much out of hand. AG subbed in for Meeks, not Green... I don't get why Vogel is playing Green so much. He was trash defensively tonight like he is most of the time. He let Korver get some easy buckets. AG was awesome tonight. Good to see that hard work he put in paying off. You can see how far that shot has come since college.

Dude you are so right. Gordon was not and he was feeding energy to the team. You could look at his face and see he was feeling it and then inexplicably Vogel put Green in for him and also let Augustin play the entire 3rd quarter while struggling mightily.
Gordon has shown a huge leap of potential star power the last 2 weeks. EP has played great but continues to backup Augustin who if he isn't hitting shots is worthless. He is a liability on defense and I am still shocked that he is starting. I just hope we don't make a trade out of panic. But we do need a reliable scorer and more movement on our offensive sets

[TrAv=MaGiCfReAk]

If I had to predict what trade we would make .... I see it being

Vuc/Mario for Rudy Gay and WCS

Just my guess not saying I want it or hate it or think it will happen. I just can see it happening

Payton
Evan
Gay
AG
Ibaka

[5ass]

Dude you are so right. Gordon was not and he was feeding energy to the team. You could look at his face and see he was feeling it and then inexplicably Vogel put Green in for him and also let Augustin play the entire 3rd quarter while struggling mightily.
Gordon has shown a huge leap of potential star power the last 2 weeks. EP has played great but continues to backup Augustin who if he isn't hitting shots is worthless. He is a liability on defense and I am still shocked that he is starting. I just hope we don't make a trade out of panic. But we do need a reliable scorer and more movement on our offensive sets

EP actually started last game and it looks like he's made his way back into the starting line up.

[5ass]

If I had to predict what trade we would make .... I see it being

Vuc/Mario for Rudy Gay and WCS

Just my guess not saying I want it or hate it or think it will happen. I just can see it happening

Payton
Evan
Gay
AG
Ibaka

I hope not. I still like Mario more than WCS and I'd hope Vucevic has more value than a disgruntled 30 year old gay on an expiring contract.

[5ass]

And has anyone noticed how many times they've been throwing it to Gordon at the three point line with 3 seconds left on the clock? Gordon has performed surprisingly well in those situations, but I dont like it.

[TrAv=MaGiCfReAk]

Yea ag has really stepped up you can just tell in his vibe he is more aggressive and comfortable. Payton too

Man vuc sucked tonight and green is so annoying I hate he gets time over Mario such bs.

And man does the Biz signing look like a mistake or what... He is just useless in a team that lacks offense ... Really wish we kept dedmon instead at like 12 mill less a year.

[5ass]

Yea ag has really stepped up you can just tell in his vibe he is more aggressive and comfortable. Payton too

Man vuc sucked tonight and green is so annoying I hate he gets time over Mario such bs.

And man does the Biz signing look like a mistake or what... He is just useless in a team that lacks offense ... Really wish we kept dedmon instead at like 12 mill less a year.

Yeah that is one thing I worried about. Does biyombo warrant the contract he got compared to Dedmon? Hell no. The Magic could've entered FA next season with a ton of capspace. Good news is he's not really a bad contract. I think a ton of teams would take him for expirings. If you compare his contract to what other players got this offseason, he's okay. I'd still prefer him to Mozgov, mahimni, Noah, ect.

[5ass]

I still haven't given up on the play offs. They just need to make some adjustments. We need to upgrade DJ and Green. The problem is we also need to get a back up C. The Magic just waved onuaku too. That could be a move to open up a roster spot. I think Mario, vucevic and firsts need to go. That's good value. Vucevic is a starter in this league. Mario still has potential. The firsts are a good gamble for a lottery pick.

[StreetKing]

Biz is not looking like a good deal but I think we are stuck with him. I don't think anybody takes on his contract. I think most teams think they over spent on a lot of guys this summer. I still think he can contribute. As far as trades go we are right on the edge of the playoffs but any move we make will be for a starter not bench depth. I am not moving Vuc (7 ft scorer on a good deal) for a bench player. We either get a starter or no deal. I think we still need an upgrade at PG/SF.

[StreetKing]

Hoops habits.com have us giving up
Vuc
AG
EP
For
Butler
Jerian Grant

What do you guys think. I think it's a little much but I would probably do it.