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  1. #1816
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellington19 View Post
    So true.

    I just sort of wish it was over, the whole saga. If he doesn't want to be here, I don't really want him here - which is obviously a lot easier for me to say as a fan than it is for Taylor or Thibs.

    Thibs' stubbornness is just wearing very thin on me. If Richardson, Bam and a Pick was the offer, I'd be pretty annoyed we didn't take it.
    From what I read they wont come off of Bam.

  2. #1817
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellington19 View Post
    So true.

    I just sort of wish it was over, the whole saga. If he doesn't want to be here, I don't really want him here - which is obviously a lot easier for me to say as a fan than it is for Taylor or Thibs.

    Thibs' stubbornness is just wearing very thin on me. If Richardson, Bam and a Pick was the offer, I'd be pretty annoyed we didn't take it.
    Actaully am very proud of Tib's FOR his stubbornness! Too often do teams get held hostage and get 25 cents on a dollar back. With him we have a good shot of again being a good team and making the playoffs.

    My understanding is that the offer was Richardson who is a nice player and has pretty good upside but clearly not all star material as far as I can see, Waiter who would add another bad contract and a protected 1st. To me clearly not enough for a top 15 player.... even with Bam that is better but not even return. That is why Tib's and/or the front office asked for more... which they should have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    Actaully am very proud of Tib's FOR his stubbornness! Too often do teams get held hostage and get 25 cents on a dollar back. With him we have a good shot of again being a good team and making the playoffs.

    My understanding is that the offer was Richardson who is a nice player and has pretty good upside but clearly not all star material as far as I can see, Waiter who would add another bad contract and a protected 1st. To me clearly not enough for a top 15 player.... even with Bam that is better but not even return. That is why Tib's and/or the front office asked for more... which they should have!
    I half get what you're saying, but his stubbornness has also led to the corpse of Derrick Rose being our 6th man and playing 30+ minutes last night, which is an embarrassment.

    If that was the trade package, I'm glad we knocked it back too. Effectively that's a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, which obviously is well unders.

  4. #1819
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    I love how Josh Richardson is putting down 25-30 points a night now that we decided not to trade JBut for him.


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    specialsteve makes valid points, for sure. We are better now than in years past. Thib's couldn't have known it would end this way. And frankly, why not push for keeping Butler, we would never get an equal return for him. He just decided to hang his job on trying to retain Butler.

    At this point, let the season play out. Either way, disappointment is the norm for us.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellington19 View Post
    I half get what you're saying, but his stubbornness has also led to the corpse of Derrick Rose being our 6th man and playing 30+ minutes last night, which is an embarrassment.

    If that was the trade package, I'm glad we knocked it back too. Effectively that's a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, which obviously is well unders.
    Rose will be the source of this boards frustratoin all year, guarantee it.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oefarmy2005 View Post
    I love how Josh Richardson is putting down 25-30 points a night now that we decided not to trade JBut for him.
    You think the Heat are "featuring" him for a reason? Am guessing although they have "backed away" they would be ready to go again if Tib's goes to bargain mode. Just don't see it happening.

    I do see that "other" teams will have a panic mode or an injury and call with something closer to value... maybe...

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