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  1. #736
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Wolves should be all over an Okafor trade.
    What do the Wolves have to offer? Utah pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    Okafor wants to go to a place where he can play.... ain't happening here....
    Unfortunately you may be right. I doubt Thibs would even consider him. I think that he's be great off of the bench like Enes Kanter though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdog View Post
    What do the Wolves have to offer? Utah pick?



    Unfortunately you may be right. I doubt Thibs would even consider him. I think that he's be great off of the bench like Enes Kanter though.
    Check my post on the previous page if you missed it.

    Im completely with you on Jahlil as a bench guy. Would be great offense.

    As far as what the Wolves have to offer, I think they would like the first rounder. I also think they would possibly have some interest in Gorgui. They are a young team looking to make a move for the playoffs right now, Gorgui could help their bigs rotation.

    Like my previous post stated though, the more I think about it, the less I like it.

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    Time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellington19 View Post
    Oh boy. It's not that you're not interested in a 'dumb down' (what?) result, it's just that you don't understand - which is okay.

    Let me give you a simplified example (and one that's close to home), to try and illustrate how/why one's DOB is not the be all and end all.

    This year, being his 4th, Wiggins is now 22. He's had over 8,500 minutes of NBA experience, with the majority (all?) of that being the number one option on a below average team (to put it nicely).

    Jimmy Butler, on the other hand, came into the league as a 22 year old and played less than 10 minutes a night in about 45 games, on a successful Chicago team.

    In this instance, do you understand why Wiggins would be expected to have a better year than Butler, even though in this example they're both 22? Or do you think that because they are both the same age in their respective seasons, that Wiggins is just automatically a better overall player than Jimmy?
    The facts laid out say a multitude of things, your point being one of them. Another obvious point, that you seem to not understand is the flip side, that Wiggins was in the league at a much younger age than Jimmy because he was much better. You are holding against Wigg for being in the league longer when him being in the league earlier and garnering starter minutes, should be your focal point as to why he is a beast. But again nothing I say will convince you Ell. I understand you clearly. Just don't think you are right. Time will tell.

    Furthermore, butler did not improve his first 3 years from 22-24 and during that season at the age of 24 he was arguably worse than 19 year old rookie Wiggins.!?

    I'd love to hear you make a point about why we should give up on Wiggins that doesn't contradict not giving up on Butler...since I don't understand, and that's OK.
    Last edited by IKnowHoops; 11-03-2017 at 04:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    Another obvious point, that you seem to not understand is the flip side, that Wiggins was in the league at a much younger age than Jimmy because he was much better.
    That's actually a really good and valid point.

    Players like Wiggins are recognized as NBA talents by the time they hit their sophomore years of highschool...That says a lot about their talent level...

    however, there still is the fact that he is in his 4th year in the league, and has shown very minimal improvement. I literally can't tell the difference between rookie Wiggy, and 4th year Wiggy...if anything, rookie Wiggy was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Check my post on the previous page if you missed it.

    Im completely with you on Jahlil as a bench guy. Would be great offense.

    As far as what the Wolves have to offer, I think they would like the first rounder. I also think they would possibly have some interest in Gorgui. They are a young team looking to make a move for the playoffs right now, Gorgui could help their bigs rotation.

    Like my previous post stated though, the more I think about it, the less I like it.
    I did miss it. Is your account still doing that jumpy post thing? lol

    If it weren't Thibs running things, Bjelica and Okafor could both get plenty of minutes. But Gorgui has a hard enough time getting scraps most nights. I do agree that Dieng is one of the more tradeable/expendable players on the team though.

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    I really, really hope Wiggins can start to show improvement, we have way to much invested in him, Iím just not sold on him. I honestly feel as if he has regressed slightly and his pouting after turning the ball over have cost us many times as of late.

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    Zach Lowe...

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-porzingis-nba

    6. Karl-Anthony Towns, hunting blocks

    The Wolves rank an embarrassing 28th in points allowed per possession, and they've been so helpless when Jimmy Butler sits, they might be better off just hacking the worst foul shooter on the other team. (OK, that's an exaggeration.) With Butler resting, opponents score at the same rate as last season's Warriors -- perhaps the greatest offensive team in league history.
    Worth it to check out the full write up on the Wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Zach Lowe...

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-porzingis-nba



    Worth it to check out the full write up on the Wolves.
    was a great article. Towns needs to sort it out. Wiggins as well.

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    This team is deep guys. Gorgui is finally coming around to his role, Crawford is and will always be a great bench guy til he retires, Nemanja is being highly efficient...really just need Tyus to bring it, and this last game was promising from him.

    A whole other question though, is if Thibs can actually utilize the bench. Tyus is sitting right around his career average in minutes per game. Nemanja, despite playing his best ball since entering the league is having a career low in minutes. Gorgui's minutes are more than cut in half from a year ago. And Jamal is seeing the least amount of minutes he has had in his career since his rookie season (17 years ago).

    I think specifically, there needs to be bigger roles/minutes for Gorgui and Nemanja. Gibson is currently playing the most mpg of his career, while arguably having his worst season (I know, small sample size) of his career...have we even seen Towns and Dieng on the court together at all this season? That seems kind of bizarre.

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    i think the issue is Thibs does not trust Gorgui on defense anywhere near as much as Taj and pairing him with KAT is just going to make things worse.

    The bench is playing so well right now. I hope they can keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kia Kaha View Post
    i think the issue is Thibs does not trust Gorgui on defense anywhere near as much as Taj and pairing him with KAT is just going to make things worse.

    The bench is playing so well right now. I hope they can keep it up.
    Well, taj is a better defender and the bench does need a hustler like gorgui, so..... itís a good thing taj starts over him. Gorgui and Bjelica do need more minutes though, I donít want to see taj tiring out half ways through the year.
    Last edited by PickleRick; 11-05-2017 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleRick View Post
    Well, taj is a better defender and the bench does need a hustler like gorgui, so..... itís a good thing taj starts over him. Gorgui and Bjelica do need more minutes though, I donít want to see taj tiring out half ways through the year.
    Taj will play right around 30 mpg, so tiring shouldnt be a concern with him. I just think with the way BJ has been playing, and with Gorgui's huge contract, they should be playing more...and it should be at the expense of Taj.

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    Another option is to play Bjelica some at sf over Shabazz?

    He has probably been the worst of all the players in the rotation so far.

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    I thought the bench played really good team defense in the first half. They were helping and rotating and getting back in time. I don't know what happened in the 4th.

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