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    Aaron Brooks has been signed to the training camp roster per ESPN. He is the 17th and final slot.

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    Andrew Wiggins said he has added weight and will focus on rebounding next season.

    Wiggins averaged 4.0 rebounds in 37.2 minutes per game last season. As a rookie back in 2014-15, he averaged 4.6 boards, while playing 36.2 minutes a night. Coach Tom Thibodeau has also stated he wants Wiggins to be more aggressive on the glass. If Wiggy can pull down five-plus boards per game, that would give his overall fantasy value a boost.

    Source: Jerry Zgoda on Twitter
    Okay if we can get him on the boards AND play defense we may have something pretty special.... "IF"....

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    Interesting that Thibs filled that 17th spot. I thought he was keeping it open waiting for roster cuts, as many other teams have more than 17 signed, and he felt some very good players were going to be let go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Interesting that Thibs filled that 17th spot. I thought he was keeping it open waiting for roster cuts, as many other teams have more than 17 signed, and he felt some very good players were going to be let go.
    I believe a number of them are non-guaranteed. I'm pretty sure the Brook's deal only said "training camp roster" meaning his is one of those that are not guaranteed.

    Let me go grab the link... I've been lazy lately.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...d-aaron-brooks
    Last edited by topdog; 09-23-2017 at 12:22 PM. Reason: link

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    yeah. Just weird that he said about a month ago he wasnt going to fill that 17 spot, and was going to wait on some guys he thinks might get cut by other teams.

    Whatever though. Can't complain about Brooks at this point. Deron Williams would have been a great move though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    yeah. Just weird that he said about a month ago he wasnt going to fill that 17 spot, and was going to wait on some guys he thinks might get cut by other teams.

    Whatever though. Can't complain about Brooks at this point. Deron Williams would have been a great move though.
    Well, seeing as how he missed on Cunningham, I assume he probably thinks it better to have 17 on hand and react as cuts are made. Assuming that a number of these deals are non-guaranteed, it is essentially the same flexibility as having an open spot.

    Not a fan of Williams (never was actually... I digress). He has never been the quickest and now is slowed by age. Brooks has played under Thibs and is much more the quick, diminutive volume scorer that coach seems to like as a backup (Brooks, DJ Augustine, Nate Robinson, Eddie House).

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    ^Did I miss something with Cunningham? I thought he was still a FA.

    Regarding Thibs backup PG...I hope Tyus is the primary backup. However, he isnt the Thibs type PG that you mentioned. Really hoping for an expanded role for Tyus. He looked very good with extended playing time down the stretch last season.

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    Cunnigham signed with the Pelicans ^^^.

    I like this as insurance but agree that I hope Tyus gets minutes. He looked solid when he got consistent minutes.

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    Lavine won't even participate in contact drills until mid-November. When will he even see the court this year? Put the line at the all star break.

    This just further shows how much the Wolves won in the Butler trade. I really hope Lavine busts out huge in CHI, but many were ignoring the injury factor in the trade, and just thinking of the Lavine who some were arguing was more valuable to the teams long term success than Wiggins. This injury is a huge set back to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Lavine won't even participate in contact drills until mid-November. When will he even see the court this year? Put the line at the all star break.

    This just further shows how much the Wolves won in the Butler trade. I really hope Lavine busts out huge in CHI, but many were ignoring the injury factor in the trade, and just thinking of the Lavine who some were arguing was more valuable to the teams long term success than Wiggins. This injury is a huge set back to him.
    I wonder how soon he would be back were the Bulls not tanking the season. There is no reason for him to return until he is 100% given that they won't be playing for anything but pingpong balls.

    As for value, there is still the question of who shoots 3s on the 30th ranked team now that their top sharpshooter is gone. Sure, a number of guys "can" do it, but who will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Lavine won't even participate in contact drills until mid-November. When will he even see the court this year? Put the line at the all star break.

    This just further shows how much the Wolves won in the Butler trade. I really hope Lavine busts out huge in CHI, but many were ignoring the injury factor in the trade, and just thinking of the Lavine who some were arguing was more valuable to the teams long term success than Wiggins. This injury is a huge set back to him.
    On NBA.COM there is a question in the Morning bag about who would GMs rather have Booker or Wiggins(we obviously know what the choice was), but for the same exact reason I will still take Lavine over Wiggins. Wiggins has zero fn drive to be a great basketball player - zero. If he had any, he'd be a top 20 player in the league easy by now. The difference between Wiggins and Beasley... Not much.

    http://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/2...g-sept-25-2017


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oefarmy2005 View Post
    On NBA.COM there is a question in the Morning bag about who would GMs rather have Booker or Wiggins(we obviously know what the choice was), but for the same exact reason I will still take Lavine over Wiggins. Wiggins has zero fn drive to be a great basketball player - zero. If he had any, he'd be a top 20 player in the league easy by now. The difference between Wiggins and Beasley... Not much.

    http://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/2...g-sept-25-2017
    Hopefully you are pleasantly surprised. I disagree on no drive. He works hard on his game, he's just a weird dude who is hard to read a la Barry Sanders/Ricky Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oefarmy2005 View Post
    On NBA.COM there is a question in the Morning bag about who would GMs rather have Booker or Wiggins(we obviously know what the choice was), but for the same exact reason I will still take Lavine over Wiggins. Wiggins has zero fn drive to be a great basketball player - zero. If he had any, he'd be a top 20 player in the league easy by now. The difference between Wiggins and Beasley... Not much.

    http://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/2...g-sept-25-2017
    Respectfully that statement is not close to being in the ball park. Wiggins game has a lot to be desired as far as being rounded out but Beasley was a plain bust.... Wiggins is a night in night out scoring machine.... thus the contract he is about to get. Yes we all want him to play tougher defense and rebound but when he gets rolling he is pretty much money in the scoring department. We will see this year with Butler around to rip him if he does not play both ends. Having a vet like Butler will make a world of difference for him. That and continued maturity will be to his benefit.

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    Wiggins = Beasley?!

    oof. The Wiggins hate is still out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    Respectfully that statement is not close to being in the ball park. Wiggins game has a lot to be desired as far as being rounded out but Beasley was a plain bust.... Wiggins is a night in night out scoring machine.... thus the contract he is about to get. Yes we all want him to play tougher defense and rebound but when he gets rolling he is pretty much money in the scoring department. We will see this year with Butler around to rip him if he does not play both ends. Having a vet like Butler will make a world of difference for him. That and continued maturity will be to his benefit.
    He's not Beasley, he's Rudy Gay. Yes, he scores a lot, but very inefficiently. His defense is ranked something like league worst for wings.

    That said, if Thibs makes him 3rd option on offense rather than 1st, I would be curious to see the difference in efficiency.

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